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Trump: EU is our FOE!!!!!!

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This should be the last straw. A after a week of public disrespect bordering on outright insults - now Trump describes the European Union as a FOE of the USA and puts them in the same category as Russia.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/15/politics/donald-trump-european-union-foe/index.html

Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump named the European Union, Russia and China as foes to the United States during an interview at his golf club in Scotland.

"I think we have a lot of foes," Trump told CBS News in an interview segment that aired Sunday on "Face the Nation." "I think the European Union is a foe, what they do to us in trade. Now you wouldn't think of the European Union, but they're a foe."
The President added that "Russia is a foe in certain respects. China is a foe economically, certainly they are a foe. But that doesn't mean they're bad. It doesn't mean anything. It means that they are competitive. They want to do well and we want to do well."
Pressed as to why he first listed the EU as a foe, Trump responded, "No, I look at them all. Look, EU is very difficult. ... In a trade sense, they've really taken advantage of us and many of those countries are in NATO and they weren't paying their bills(.)"
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This dangerous threat to world peace, our European allies and our American security needs to be removed ASAP before it is too late.
 
Trade has win-win options. One needn't frame the negotiations as competition or opponents. That's kind of going in with the wrong attitude.

That said, foe meaning those things isn't so bad. The OP is carrying supervillian connotations that are not inherent to the word.
 
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ecofarm said:
Trade has win-win options. One needn't frame the negotiations as competition or opponents. That's kind of going in with the wrong attitude.

That said, foe meaning those things isn't so bad. The OP is carrying supervillian connotations that are not inherent to the word.
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Sophomoric relativism. The EU is an economic competitor. The Russian Federation and China are economic competitors AND enemy states.
 
ecofarm said:
Trade has win-win options. One needn't frame the negotiations as competition or opponents. That's kind of going in with the wrong attitude.

That said, foe meaning those things isn't so bad. The OP is carrying supervillian connotations that are not inherent to the word.
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The use of the word FOE tells the world what Trump really believes about those who are our allies and who fought besides, gave their blood and died so we and they could fight together and be free of fascism. Now Trump classifies them as a foe. And no amount of excuses or explanations or soft-soap will change that. The cats out of the bag.

A competitor in the trade market is not a foe. An enemy state like Russia who attacked our elections and installed their choice in the White House is a foe.

Simply amazing!!!!!!
 
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haymarket said:
The use of the word FOE tells the world what Trump really believes about those who are our allies and who fought besides, gave their blood and died so we and they could fight together and be free of racism. Now Trump classifies them as a foe. And no amount of excuses or explanations or soft-soap will change that. The cats out of the bag.

Simply amazing!!!!!!
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Would "competitor" been acceptable?
 
haymarket said:
This should be the last straw. A after a week of public disrespect bordering on outright insults - now Trump describes the European Union as a FOE of the USA and puts them in the same category as Russia.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/15/politics/donald-trump-european-union-foe/index.html



This dangerous threat to world peace, our European allies and our American security needs to be removed ASAP before it is too late.
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The Red Chinese and Soviets have propped up every proxy war against usA and Israel for over 70 years. Yet gops think they’re ‘competitors’. Shows you just how far they’ve sunk, the true ‘enemy within’.
 
Trump: EU is our FOE!!!!!!
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another day, another dumbass comment from Trump.
 
ecofarm said:
Trade has win-win options. One needn't frame the negotiations as competition or opponents. That's kind of going in with the wrong attitude.

That said, foe meaning those things isn't so bad. The OP is carrying supervillian connotations that are not inherent to the word.
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Sorry, but you can't put lipstick on these pig optics.
Regardless of any trade debates, no president has ever used terms like that because no president should, not WRT EU...or Canada, or Mexico.
Good Lord... :lamo
 
ecofarm said:
That said, foe meaning those things isn't so bad. The OP is carrying supervillian connotations that are not inherent to the word.
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You complain in nearly every post when someone uses slightly off language about racial language/connotation, but here you're willing to consider "foe", as not so bad...on behalf of Trump...in the context we're in?
Hogwash.

Furthermore, this is in the context of Russia having been evidenced again, to have attacked the U.S. just this week. And with Trump saying very positive things about Putin, and rarely if every saying anything that adversarial, opposing sanctions, etc.

He's a big boy, he knows what he's saying. And if he doesn't, he shouldn't be POTUS.
 
haymarket said:
This should be the last straw. A after a week of public disrespect bordering on outright insults - now Trump describes the European Union as a FOE of the USA and puts them in the same category as Russia.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/15/politics/donald-trump-european-union-foe/index.html



This dangerous threat to world peace, our European allies and our American security needs to be removed ASAP before it is too late.
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Did you just laser in on that one comment, EU is a foe? All the other words around that explain what he was talking about do not matter, even if they explain what he meant, and the context?
 
haymarket said:
This should be the last straw. A after a week of public disrespect bordering on outright insults - now Trump describes the European Union as a FOE of the USA and puts them in the same category as Russia.
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Considering the EU was formed with the intent of a trade goal for meeting and surpassing US Trade dominance at that time with a unified position of superiority for its members, this is not an insult but an accurate assessment. Moreover, the EU members have retained massive tariffs on US goods for decades, perhaps you need to re-evaluate your understanding of why Trump threw Starbursts at Merkel. And note, he did so right after EU leaders tried to stare him down and he afterwards stated "I'm all for free trade. Let's drop all tariffs, I'll agree to that." He left and left them all speechless. When speaking truth is insulting, it is time to recognize insanity is not what you think it is.

Let us not forget, many Americans who originated with European ancestry are the bastards and criminals, along with the youngest sons with no inheritance from Europe. Those who stole bread to survive, those who were unwanted, and we've been hated ever since for gaining the upper hand. They like our military aid, forgiven loans that rebuilt Europe after wars, and our tourist dollars as they mock and criticize us as low life's. We are all the Ugly American.

Should we close our military bases in Europe, Europe will go bankrupt and we can enjoy from distance as they kill each other again. Yes, we are a danger to Europe, since Europeans cannot depend upon themselves without subjugating and stealing the resources and wealth of others.

It has been too late since the success of the American Revolution.
 
Mach said:
You complain in nearly every post when someone uses slightly off language about racial language/connotation, but here you're willing to consider "foe", as not so bad...on behalf of Trump...in the context we're in?
Hogwash.

Furthermore, this is in the context of Russia having been evidenced again, to have attacked the U.S. just this week. And with Trump saying very positive things about Putin, and rarely if every saying anything that adversarial, opposing sanctions, etc.

He's a big boy, he knows what he's saying. And if he doesn't, he shouldn't be POTUS.
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Eco is absolutely correct. Doubt is was 'on behalf of Trump' but more on the behalf of what was said. The quote the op referenced compared to the title of the thread 'Trump: EU is our Foe!!!' is nothing but spin.
 
holbritter said:
Did you just laser in on that one comment, EU is a foe? All the other words around that explain what he was talking about do not matter, even if they explain what he meant, and the context?
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For Trump to use the word FOE to describe our allies is disgraceful and beyond excuses.

When will enough be enough for some people to finally see what a completely ignorant clown they have installed in our nations highest office?

Trump knows his audience well. He said he could shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue and it would not cost him votes. By the same token he can call our long time allies a FOE and people here bend over backwards to excuse it. Its pathetically sad.
 
haymarket said:
For Trump to use the word FOE to describe our allies is disgraceful and beyond excuses.

When will enough be enough for some people to finally see what a completely ignorant clown they have installed in our nations highest office?

Trump knows his audience well. He said he could shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue and it would not cost him votes. By the same token he can call our long time allies a FOE and people here bend over backwards to excuse it. Its pathetically sad.
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Well, since 'foe' can mean more than just enemy, you are choosing to use the definition that suits your views. I'm defining it in the context it was used.

Geeze....if someone doesn't jump on the bandwagon and agree with you, it's excusing. As I read elsewhere.....Unclench.
 
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holbritter said:
Well, since 'foe' can mean more than just enemy, you are choosing to use the definition that suits your views. I'm defining it in the context it was used.

Geeze....if someone doesn't jump on the bandwagon and agree with you, it's excusing. As I read elsewhere.....Unclench.
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If this remark was isolated and was the first time Trump said anything like this - perhaps some of the soft soap might wash it clean of the stink. But it is not isolated. It was not the first time. It comes on the heels of the previous week of insulting our European allies and disrespecting them. As such, he does NOT get a free pass for a one time slip up or a poor choice of words.

This FOE comment has to be taken right along in context with his previous weeks insults against our European allies.

To pretend otherwise is simply the worst sort of hiding your head in the sand ostrich behavior wanting to pretend this is not really what it is.
 
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