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derekgeisler

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I am wondering what everyone thinks about the course of The Russia Probe. It has taken an interesting turn from investigating the Clinton emails to a witch hunt against the Trump administration. I have a politically charged niche and i am always looking for interesting opinions and articles to post.

The Russia Probe - Special Counsel Report
 
derekgeisler said:
I am wondering what everyone thinks about the course of The Russia Probe. It has taken an interesting turn from investigating the Clinton emails to a witch hunt against the Trump administration. I have a politically charged niche and i am always looking for interesting opinions and articles to post.

The Russia Probe - Special Counsel Report
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The Mueller probe may be the only thing in this nation standing between preserving the rule of law and authoritarianism run amok.
 
haymarket said:
The Mueller probe may be the only thing in this nation standing between preserving the rule of law and authoritarianism run amok.
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Or, having the opposite affect?

Let's see how honorable Mueller really is in the end, especially when a good portion of everything that has already been released...……... has been heavily redacted.



In the end, nobody will be held accountable, tried in court, and we the citizen will be left wondering why we are still being lied to.

The IG report only confirmed my doubts about any honesty.
 
If there was ever a president who needed investigating, Trump is that guy.
 
derekgeisler said:
I am wondering what everyone thinks about the course of The Russia Probe. It has taken an interesting turn from investigating the Clinton emails to a witch hunt against the Trump administration. I have a politically charged niche and i am always looking for interesting opinions and articles to post.

The Russia Probe - Special Counsel Report
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1. The Clinton email issue really has nothing directly to do with the Russian Probe.

2. The Russian Probe has pretty much run its course...with nothing of substance to show for all the time, energy, money and disruption of lives it has cost.

3. The only thing at the main page of that link you gave that has anything to do with the Russia Probe is the little section about 13 Russians indicted.

https://therussiaprobe.com/news/probe/russia-probe-indictments/

Frankly, I find that to be a very low return on investment for the taxpayer, especially when you consider that the Mueller investigation is running into substantial problems related to some of those Russians.

I tend to agree with Gowdy..."Whatever You Got, Finish It The Hell Up"
 
I haven't observed or read about any significant Russian election manipulation. The FACEBOOK accusations are so minimal as to be bogus accusations. Manafort is bank fraud or money laundering. Flynn is loose lips. Any or all who can't see that the Cold War and evil Russia MSM narrative is agenda driven by NeoCons must live under a rock. Review the MSM and see who the cheerleaders were for the IRAQ War. Who were the cheerleaders for the Libya invasion? Who are the cheerleaders for the Syria invasion? Who are the cheerleaders of the Afghanistan debacle? Put a name on this group. NeoCons, PNAC, PaxAmerica, Intelligence Agencies, MIC, and they blanket the MSM. The problem is not Russians. Look a little closer to home. Nothing happens without MSM support and it takes big money to buy that support and since this is Capitalism/CORPORATISM it is certainly for sale. Why do you think the USA is constantly at war in Wars of Choice? Do you help any Nation by bringing chaos, destruction, death and poverty to their shores? Too much of this is caused by the nearly incestous relationship between CORPORATE and Intelligence Agencis helping the business interests a/k/a like "Banana Republics" and Energy behemoths. Our gov't works for Corporate America at the expense of the Commons.
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derekgeisler said:
I am wondering what everyone thinks about the course of The Russia Probe. It has taken an interesting turn from investigating the Clinton emails to a witch hunt against the Trump administration. I have a politically charged niche and i am always looking for interesting opinions and articles to post.

The Russia Probe - Special Counsel Report
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When the President askes the FBI director to go easy on looking to indepth to the new NSA Chief, ask your self why ? Ya Trump needs to be gone thru with fine tooth comb,and its name is Mueller.
 
Mycroft said:
1. The Clinton email issue really has nothing directly to do with the Russian Probe.
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So why does the right keep bringing up the emails of a retired grandma?


Mycroft said:
2. The Russian Probe has pretty much run its course...with nothing of substance to show for all the time, energy, money and disruption of lives it has cost.
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Not true, not true at all.<-period All you have to do is look at the list of confessions and incitements to know that's not true.

Mycroft said:
3. The only thing at the main page of that link you gave that has anything to do with the Russia Probe is the little section about 13 Russians indicted.
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Yep I found the OP article lacking too.

Mycroft said:
Frankly, I find that to be a very low return on investment for the taxpayer, especially when you consider that the Mueller investigation is running into substantial problems related to some of those Russians.
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Trump has spent far more money and interfered with more lives and commerce traveling back and forth to Mira Larges to golf; not having time to golf was one of his campaign promises … btw.

Mycroft said:
I tend to agree with Gowdy..."Whatever You Got, Finish It The Hell Up"
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Which made Gowdy the biggest hypocrite of the day.
 
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StuPedaso said:
So why does the right keep bringing up the emails of a retired grandma?
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Clinton's email issues are still unresolved satisfactorily. Be that as it may, it is irrelevant to this thread.

Not true, not true at all.<-period All you have to do is look at the list of confessions and incitements to know that's not true.
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None of the confessions and "incitements" have anything to do with Trump/Russia...which is the focus of Mueller's investigation. (at least that's what it was supposed to be about)

Yep I found the OP article lacking too.



Trump has spent far more money and interfered with more lives and commerce traveling back and forth to Mira Larges to golf; not having time to golf was one of his campaign promises … btw.
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Irrelevant.

Which made Gowdy the biggest hypocrite of the day.
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How so?
 
RetiredUSN said:
Or, having the opposite affect?

Let's see how honorable Mueller really is in the end, especially when a good portion of everything that has already been released...……... has been heavily redacted.



In the end, nobody will be held accountable, tried in court, and we the citizen will be left wondering why we are still being lied to.

The IG report only confirmed my doubts about any honesty.
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Time will tell.

I have confidence, if Mueller is left alone to do his job and we get to see the complete report as he writes it, we will know the truth.
 
DaveFagan said:
I haven't observed or read about any significant Russian election manipulation. The FACEBOOK accusations are so minimal as to be bogus accusations. Manafort is bank fraud or money laundering. Flynn is loose lips. Any or all who can't see that the Cold War and evil Russia MSM narrative is agenda driven by NeoCons must live under a rock. Review the MSM and see who the cheerleaders were for the IRAQ War. Who were the cheerleaders for the Libya invasion? Who are the cheerleaders for the Syria invasion? Who are the cheerleaders of the Afghanistan debacle? Put a name on this group. NeoCons, PNAC, PaxAmerica, Intelligence Agencies, MIC, and they blanket the MSM. The problem is not Russians. Look a little closer to home. Nothing happens without MSM support and it takes big money to buy that support and since this is Capitalism/CORPORATISM it is certainly for sale. Why do you think the USA is constantly at war in Wars of Choice? Do you help any Nation by bringing chaos, destruction, death and poverty to their shores? Too much of this is caused by the nearly incestous relationship between CORPORATE and Intelligence Agencis helping the business interests a/k/a like "Banana Republics" and Energy behemoths. Our gov't works for Corporate America at the expense of the Commons.
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This rant brought to you by....

RT.com and Sputnik

Do you like your Russian Propaganda regular or extra crispy?
 
Mycroft said:
None of the confessions and "incitements" have anything to do with Trump/Russia...which is the focus of Mueller's investigation. (at least that's what it was supposed to be about)
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You (no one) don't know that, wait tell he's finished and HOPE you can still be so sure.

Mycroft said:
Irrelevant.
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If we're talking money, trumps golf trips are absolutely germane to the topic.


Mycroft said:
How so?
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Gowdy spent over twice as long investigating HRC's email and produced nothing, at least Mueller has indictments and confessions to show for his efforts. Yes Gowdy's a hypocrite of the first order.
 
StuPedaso said:
You (no one) don't know that, wait tell he's finished and HOPE you can still be so sure.
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Oh, we would know. Mueller would make sure. He'd have some "unnamed source" tell us.

If we're talking money, trumps golf trips are absolutely germane to the topic.
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Golf is irrelevant to Russia.

Gowdy spent over twice as long investigating HRC's email and produced nothing, at least Mueller has indictments and confessions to show for his efforts. Yes Gowdy's a hypocrite of the first order.
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Gowdy was up against the full obstructive force and ability of the Obama administration. Heck, we are STILL finding new stuff that he wasn't able to find out during his investigation. Don't be surprised if the Hillary email thing is re-opened. Mueller has no such problems. Those indictments and confessions have nothing to do with Trump/Russia.
 
Mycroft said:
Oh, we would know. Mueller would make sure. He'd have some "unnamed source" tell us.
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Nope! That's just NOT consistent with Mueller's way of operating.



Mycroft said:
Golf is irrelevant to Russia.
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What is a waste of Government funds isn't.



Mycroft said:
Gowdy was up against the full obstructive force and ability of the Obama administration. Heck, we are STILL finding new stuff that he wasn't able to find out during his investigation. Don't be surprised if the Hillary email thing is re-opened. Mueller has no such problems.
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Gowdy, none the less, is a hypocrite.


Mycroft said:
Those indictments and confessions have nothing to do with Trump/Russia.
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That remains to be seen.
 
Fledermaus said:
This rant brought to you by....

RT.com and Sputnik

Do you like your Russian Propaganda regular or extra crispy?
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I guess you enjoy your rock.
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Gowdy wasn't empowered as a special prosecutor for the Clinton investigation. Obama's DOJ having stonewalled the email investigation with grants of immunity and clandestine tarmac meetings wasn't going to prosecute Hillary or any of her servants.

If it's ok that she left the people she assigned to Benghazi to die with no help while she peddled a lie about a video being responsible then there is no room for accusing anyone of being a blind Trump loyalist without exposing the partisan hypocrisy of partisan Democrats.

Mueller has produced zero indictments or guilty pleas for any crime having to do with Trump Russia collusion. He has run amok abusing his office. It's obvious his agenda is destroying Trump no matter what. That's why Rosenstein will not release the statement of the investigation's scope. It is poisonous to allow Mueller to continue his partisan witch hunt.
 
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