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Trump's UN Speech

On re-reading his speech, I see he did include the proviso regarding no first strike. My bad.
 
apdst said:
Have you ever heard of World War 2?
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apdst:

The UN was created after WWII and America never joined the League of Nations before or during WWII. Reagan was not in power during WWII. The point of your comment eludes me.

Cheers.
Evilroddy.
 
apdst said:
OMG! A president that thinks America is #1! The nerve of that guy!
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In many ways we aren't, and we need to fix that.

But I was more concerned about his comments regarding completely destroying north korea.

Granted I don't think there's a good option at this time, but the worst possible option is complete destruction of north korea, unless he somehow meant it metaphorically, but using metaphors that can be misconstrued as threats of nuclear annihilation strikes me as dangerous, and that's the BEST case for his statements regarding that.
 
If you risk a nuclear war with a major nuclear power like the United States and Russia, you need to risk nuclear annihilation, which is a total disaster for your country. America has every option on the table because North Korea is emerging as a nuclear power, against which the use of nuclear weapons is permissible. Probably Rocket Man is too young to remember the Cold War. I support every word he said about North Korea and this is how you negotiate with a "band of criminals".

 
There are just short of 30,000 US troops on the border, and 8 million South Korean civilians live 35 miles south of that border in Seoul. Many, if not most, will die in any conflict.
 
Not to mention 24 million North Koreans who have no say in what happens.. Perhaps Kim is relying on China to back him up.
 
"I come before you humbled by the responsibility that the American people have placed upon me, mindful of the enormous challenges of our moment in history, and determined to act boldly and collectively on behalf of justice and prosperity at home and abroad.

I have been in office for just nine months -- though some days it seems a lot longer. I am well aware of the expectations that accompany my presidency around the world. These expectations are not about me. Rather, they are rooted, I believe, in a discontent with a status quo that has allowed us to be increasingly defined by our differences, and outpaced by our problems. But they are also rooted in hope -- the hope that real change is possible, and the hope that America will be a leader in bringing about such change.

I took office at a time when many around the world had come to view America with skepticism and distrust. Part of this was due to misperceptions and misinformation about my country. Part of this was due to opposition to specific policies, and a belief that on certain critical issues, America has acted unilaterally, without regard for the interests of others. And this has fed an almost reflexive anti-Americanism, which too often has served as an excuse for collective inaction.

Now, like all of you, my responsibility is to act in the interest of my nation and my people, and I will never apologize for defending those interests. But it is my deeply held belief that in the year 2009 -- more than at any point in human history -- the interests of nations and peoples are shared."
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For comparison: This was Obama's speech at his first UN appearance
 
apdst said:
Do you love your country?
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Of course, and if my Prime Minister said the stupid stuff that Trump said, I would be equally as critical.. oh and the PM at the moment is from the party I support normally.
 
Glowpun said:
Trump's speech at the UN will be a great opportunity for him to show true American leadership and greatness. Or he can really screw things up that will bode ill for America in the eyes of the world. Anyone taking bets?
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well, IMO it was certainly the latter, not the former. Orange Cheeto was addressing likely the largest gathering of diplomats he may ever address yet he tells everyone the US may, "totally destroy NoKo." Orange Cheeto has no ability to ratchet back on the bellicose language. All Trump is doing is painting himself into a box by drawing all of his own red lines in the sand. If Kim Un keeps on going down the path he has been proceeding then Trump will look like the weak, impotent moron that he is by continually painting himself so, by utilizing all of the bellicose language of the past several weeks. Trump is nothing more than a very dangerous idiot, period. Trump is in no way POTUS material; he is actually a very poor actor with the mentality of a 13 year old bully ..............
 
Glowpun said:
Trump's speech at the UN will be a great opportunity for him to show true American leadership and greatness. Or he can really screw things up that will bode ill for America in the eyes of the world. Anyone taking bets?
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DJT followed in the footsteps of DeGaulle's "Europe of the Fatherlands."

A Radical Rebuke of Obama's Foreign Policy Legacy
Peter Beinart, The Atlantic
 
rocket88 said:
From what I heard of the speevh, it was pretty boilerplate.. Nothing bad, but not really that great. I could have heard basically the same thing coming out of Obama's mouth.
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But then you would have swooned.
 
X Factor said:
But then you would have swooned.
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I didn't even vote for him the second time around. You're just being a trolling idiot, following me around looking for posts. You're just making yourself look pathetic.
 
rocket88 said:
I didn't even vote for him the second time around. You're just being a trolling idiot, following me around looking for posts. You're just making yourself look pathetic.
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I'm doing exactly what you do.
 
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