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Is Putin Statesman of the Year?

As far as "thief" qualities, Vladimir does not hold a candle to the kleptocrats and war criminals that operate Inside the Beltway. He does not hold a candle to Cheney and Halliburton.


You totally missed what the thread is about didn't you. I suggest you check your numbers there are very few people that are as successful a kleptomaniac as putin
 
Putin is a kleptomaniac, that's it

Aren't they all? How much have our domestic oligarchs and war profiteers stolen from the Treasury in the name of the GWOT? Lots and lots, probably more than even exists in the Russian treasury.
 
Aren't they all? How much have our domestic oligarchs and war profiteers stolen from the Treasury in the name of the GWOT? Lots and lots, probably more than even exists in the Russian treasury.


Comments like that suggests to me that you're one of those putin internet trolls that we hear so much in the news
 
Comments like that suggests to me that you're one of those putin internet trolls that we hear so much in the news

Well I hope you don't have nightmares about those horrible trolls. :shock:
 
Is Putin the 'Preeminent Statesman' of Our Times?

What say thee? Pat Buchanan does have a certain vision that others don't.


Going by the crafter definition and facts given in the article in your link, yes. But being a dictator, his greatest accomplishment of staying in power, of a country with the greatest natural resources in the world, by far, is a rather large advantage in comparison to others. It knocks out a lot of others when Putin has been in the "Our Times" span far longer than anyone else.
 
Going by the crafter definition and facts given in the article in your link, yes. But being a dictator, his greatest accomplishment of staying in power, of a country with the greatest natural resources in the world, by far, is a rather large advantage in comparison to others. It knocks out a lot of others when Putin has been in the "Our Times" span far longer than anyone else.

As we play 8 year musical chairs with our sham "elected leaders", aren't the Russians lucky to have a high quality leader?

Our guys divide their time between waging wars of military aggression, and attacking the US Constitution by way of legislative efforts such as Patriot Act and Military Commissions Act, as Putin tries to have peace and prosperity in his country.

Lucky Russians!
 
As we play 8 year musical chairs with our sham "elected leaders", aren't the Russians lucky to have a high quality leader?

Our guys divide their time between waging wars of military aggression, and attacking the US Constitution by way of legislative efforts such as Patriot Act and Military Commissions Act, as Putin tries to have peace and prosperity in his country.

Lucky Russians!


It's pretty obvious from your posts that you can only be viewed as one of Putin's Kremlin basement guys you certainly aren't an American
 
As we play 8 year musical chairs with our sham "elected leaders", aren't the Russians lucky to have a high quality leader?

Our guys divide their time between waging wars of military aggression, and attacking the US Constitution by way of legislative efforts such as Patriot Act and Military Commissions Act, as Putin tries to have peace and prosperity in his country.

Lucky Russians!


Yeah. And live to a ripe old age of 64.7 (assuming you are a male)! To your question, I'd rather live under a pluto-democracy without a "real" leader than a communist state led by a dictator but "real" leader.
 
Putin has done more to seek peace than the US, easily. It is efforts at peace making that determine whether or not one is a statesman.
Putin has war crimes in both Ukraine and Syria around his neck.
 
Re: Is Putin Statesman of the Year?
Rogue Valley

I know a lot of people carry this impression. But is it real? Is this even remotely true?

Putin has war crimes in both Ukraine and Syria around his neck.
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I don't think that anyone believes that President Vlad Putin loses any sleep over these undefined allegations; much less cares. If anything, it is the Russian Federation that has the International Criminal Court (ICC) on the ropes, as the individual leaders of the EU Countries wrestle with how to address these concern ... or to decide, if indeed, these allegations have been overtaken by events and worth the time and effort. The Russian Federation's activities between November 2013 and February 2014 on matters pertaining to the annexation of Crimea and its invasion of Eastern Ukraine.

The world view of the methods and practices used relative to the conflicts associated with Afghanistan, Georgia, Iraq, Palestine, Syria, and the Ukraine. The climate is such that bloggers, and mass media mainstream journalist, are inciting discontent, just throwing around War Crimes and Crimes against Humanity, --- actually unable to articulate, objectively, the allegations. Media reports are rarely published in the “interests of justice.” Most of the investigative journalism reports one side or the other; but never with the intent to serve the interests of justice.


  • ※ Over used terms which have come to be politically irrelevant.
    • ∷ Crimes against humanity: murder, forcible transfer of population and persecution; and
      ∷ Crimes against humanity:
      committed in the context of the "Maidan" protests which took place in Kyiv and other regions of Ukraine between 21 November 2013 and 22 February 2014, including murder; torture and/or other inhumane acts.
      ∷ War crimes:
      attacks against the civilian population, wilful killing, intentionally directing attacks against peacekeepers, destruction of property and pillaging.∷ Gravity: includes an assessment of the scale, nature, manner and impact of the alleged crimes committed in the situation.


The major powers attempt to directly ignore allegations that one of them "might" be guilty of the these vary same claims. For the ICC to maintain any credibility

Most Respectfully,
R
 
It's pretty obvious from your posts that you can only be viewed as one of Putin's Kremlin basement guys you certainly aren't an American

You are so perceptive! :cool:
 
Yeah. And live to a ripe old age of 64.7 (assuming you are a male)! To your question, I'd rather live under a pluto-democracy without a "real" leader than a communist state led by a dictator but "real" leader.

To each his own, for sure. :peace
 
To each his own, for sure. :peace


Yeah. Living for 12 years longer is appealing rather than in conditions under a tyrant that drive you to drink so much vodka. Others might argue it's a matter of too much of a good thing.
 
Putin has war crimes in both Ukraine and Syria around his neck.

I judge by a different standard than you. I acknowledge that it is possible for any human to be a war criminal. As many commanders in chief as there have been on the planet, there might have been war criminals.

Stanley Milgram demonstrated the tendency in his experiments, I think the name of the book he wrote was "Obedience to Authority", and it's dark-side fascinating, because it's so true. Humans can be cruel.

What I know is that for years, the US government has killed innocent people from above by drone. Gunslinger Obama, is what I called him. :mrgreen:. His predecessor took the country to war under fraud, is where I'm at. Or was, back when he was doing it.

In the meantime, I don't see Russia invading other countries without announcing at the UN, as Putin did. I see that as an honorable act by Putin, defending his ally who is under attack.

Like the guys at KnowDrones I don't see much honorable behavior from my government. I see moral issues, so do they.

As for Crimea, fer chrissakes they voted in favor of it. It's been Russian for centuries maybe, anyway I don't blame Putin for defending his country and saving the navy by asserting control of the country, protecting their interests. I can't blame a man for that, he would be a fool and a traitor to do otherwise.

Ukraine, I keep thinking of the Beatles song "Back in the USSR" where it's mentioned. :mrgreen: I've never been there, but I knew when I was a kid from geography that Ukraine was a region of Russia.

And Victoria Nuland got caught runnin' her mouth by the Russians. So that means the US State Department is right smack dab in the middle of yet another regime change scheme.

Really, who is it that is causing hostilities?
 
Yeah. Living for 12 years longer is appealing rather than in conditions under a tyrant that drive you to drink so much vodka. Others might argue it's a matter of too much of a good thing.

Yeah, but I don't like the cool aid. It ****s me up. :(
 
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