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Since the Fall of the Soviet Union

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Here's a question: do you think that the world is a more dangerous place since the fall of the Soviet Union?
 
Due primarily to bad leadership, corruption, and the decline of reason humanity is drifting towards chaos.

The answer: Yes, of course.
 
Neither.

The East-West conflict did a good job of dominating international politics in a manner that the hundreds of third world conflicts and disputes lost amid the struggle against international communism. The fall of the Soviet Union simply ushered into a new era of conflicts and struggles. When the current world order is over, a new epoch will begin, just as violent as the last.
 
Here's a question: do you think that the world is a more dangerous place since the fall of the Soviet Union?

The WEST needs new enemies ,that is all
 
Here's a question: do you think that the world is a more dangerous place since the fall of the Soviet Union?

That is quite trivial. Between the implosion of the Soviet and now the world was much safer. In 2005 it looked as if an increased level of security for the populations of all countries was materializing. Obama and Putin have made this less probably with a little help from our friends.
 
That is quite trivial. Between the implosion of the Soviet and now the world was much safer. In 2005 it looked as if an increased level of security for the populations of all countries was materializing. Obama and Putin have made this less probably with a little help from our friends.

Your international policies do not change from president to president,we all know this fact
 
Your international policies do not change from president to president,we all know this fact

One would hope they were relatively constant, indeed. Sorrily....
 
One would hope they were relatively constant, indeed. Sorrily....

They are planned before we are born ,long term plans,yes they do not change ,plan a plan b
 
Due primarily to bad leadership, corruption, and the decline of reason humanity is drifting towards chaos.

The answer: Yes, of course.

It is sad. But that seems Putin's main trauma that he wants to heal it at everyone's expense.
 
It is sad. But that seems Putin's main trauma that he wants to heal it at everyone's expense.

He wants to rebuild the Russian Empire.

This is completely predictable.
 
He wants to rebuild the Russian Empire.

This is completely predictable.

Yep. But it should be predictable to or Presidents as well.
 
Here's a question: do you think that the world is a more dangerous place since the fall of the Soviet Union?

Possibly. Sorry for the vagueness but the world has always been a dangerous place and most likely always will be.Nailed on we will most likely destroy ourselves at some point in the not too distant future

The Soviet bloc did act as a kind of small scale counter balance to US global dominance but did that really make for a safer global environment ?

As Medusa rightly pointed out , the US/West needs a bogeyman to justify its global state terror and the big Red Bear served that purpose for a while until it's collapse. The War on Drugs and the second War On Terror will ensure that new nightmares will be used to take the place of the old Soviets in a bid to present aggression as defence.

I mean they all do it , all imperialists use these tactics but the coming war between the West and China/ Russia should have every right minded person quaking in their boots
 
Here's a question: do you think that the world is a more dangerous place since the fall of the Soviet Union?

Yes it is. However, it's not because of the fall of the Soviet Union.

Today, the world faces threats equally fatal, from far more sources.

This appears to be the natural progression due to easier transportation, and increased vulnerability.
 
Your international policies do not change from president to president,we all know this fact

Very true imo , and the same can be said of many other places. What is termed as " the national interest " is in fact the interests of a very small minority that wish to hold on to the privileges their wealth and the power that that wealth ensures carry on into the future
 
Here's a question: do you think that the world is a more dangerous place since the fall of the Soviet Union?

It depends on diplomacy. Russia plays by much different rules and while it is no longer a communist country it certainly is not a democracy. Putin rules with an iron hand. Unfortunately Putin probably knows as much about international business as Trump knows about diplomacy. That isn't encouraging.

Also Putin may well hold secrets that could be damaging to Trump. Russia is extremely corrupt. Trump may have dirty hands in his business dealings in Russia. We just don't know.
 
Here's a question: do you think that the world is a more dangerous place since the fall of the Soviet Union?

No. I think it is as dangerous as it has always been. Maybe a little more now since we have a moron coming in as our next president.
 
It depends on diplomacy. Russia plays by much different rules and while it is no longer a communist country it certainly is not a democracy. Putin rules with an iron hand. Unfortunately Putin probably knows as much about international business as Trump knows about diplomacy. That isn't encouraging.

Also Putin may well hold secrets that could be damaging to Trump. Russia is extremely corrupt. Trump may have dirty hands in his business dealings in Russia. We just don't know.

You can almost bet that Putin knows where the skeletons are in Truump's closet. He is former KGB, after all. And, blackmailing people was their thing.
 
Here's a question: do you think that the world is a more dangerous place since the fall of the Soviet Union?

No. Like, a million times no. Anyone who thinks Islamism resembles a graver threat than the Soviet Union needs to be kept as far away from the levers of foreign policy as possible.

But is it more dangerous than it was in the early 1990's? Yes. And I do put a lot of blame on this administration.
 
You can almost bet that Putin knows where the skeletons are in Truump's closet. He is former KGB, after all. And, blackmailing people was their thing.

Exactly. I am not saying that Trump did break laws as a part of doing business in Russia. We do know that that was/is the way business is done in Russia. As I understand it Russia complies with international law only when it feels that it must or because it is in Putin's best interest (not the in the interest of the Russian people). Putin controls it all. If there has been shady **** going on between Trump and Russia you'd have to assume that Putin is fully aware and has the information to back it up. If Putin and Company ran ELINT ops on Clintons and the DNC you know damn well he did the same thing on Trump.
 
Exactly. I am not saying that Trump did break laws as a part of doing business in Russia. We do know that that was/is the way business is done in Russia. As I understand it Russia complies with international law only when it feels that it must or because it is in Putin's best interest (not the in the interest of the Russian people). Putin controls it all. If there has been shady **** going on between Trump and Russia you'd have to assume that Putin is fully aware and has the information to back it up. If Putin and Company ran ELINT ops on Clintons and the DNC you know damn well he did the same thing on Trump.

I think you should find and read a transcript of Putin's recent annual press conference. He is on top of all things Russia from A-Z. He discusses World economies eloquently and economic threats to the World and Russia. Worth reading. He gives lengthy and detailed spontaneous answers to all questions.
 
The world has always been a dangerous place. It was dangerous before this country began, and it will be so long after this country has ended. In the end, all things must die that others be granted a chance to live.
 
Here's a question: do you think that the world is a more dangerous place since the fall of the Soviet Union?

The world is and has always been a dangerous place.

The threat just changes from time to time.

Now, the danger has shifted for two reasons: 1) because of the fall of dictators that kept their people under control, who's people are now out of control and under the growing influence of radicalism - radical Islam, is the most visible example, and; 2) the increase in power and advancements in technological capability of the regimes that have survived, like Iran, North Korea, and China, as well as the rise to power of despots such as Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte. This is all, however, related to the fall of the Soviet Union because the Soviets used to support and protect the majority of the dictatorships that have fallen over the last 30+ years, and the power vacuum left by the fall of the Soviet Union has allowed numerous other nations to take their share of that power and attempt to wield it to gain even more power - which will eventually lead to a major conflict.

Like I said in another thread, yesterday, history is beginning to repeat itself with what Russia and China are doing. Russia following a similar path of the 1930's NSDAP and China following a similar path of the 1930's Empire of Japan. We all know where that eventually lead the world.

So, in a way, yes. But not directly so. More indirectly as a tertiary consequence rather than a direct cause.
 
It is a bit hard to compare.

1) There is far more media coverage now than there ever has been. It is also faster (almost instant).
2) The Internet.

These two have a massive impact on perception. There was a recent study done by PEW and others, about perceptions. On Muslims, most people though that there were 3-4x (and even more) Muslims in their country, than there actually are.

When it comes to how dangerous the world is, it comes again down to perception rather than reality. Take terrorist attacks in Europe. Many would say that it is the worst it has ever been. It aint, not even close. The 1970s-80s were FAR worse when it comes to terror or mass attacks. So again perception does not match reality and facts.

The only thing you can say with certainty, is that the world has become far more complicated since the fall of the Soviet Union. Back then the west had one enemy and were united. Now we have multiple enemies depending on the country and we are no way as united as we once were. The standing of the US in the world has gone down dramatically the last 16 years. Before the fall of the wall, countries like Germany and others, would rarely or ever question US policy. That has changed, and it makes everything far more complicated.
 
There was a recent study done by PEW and others, about perceptions. On Muslims, most people though that there were 3-4x (and even more) Muslims in their country, than there actually are.
Actually it is a recurring study from Ipso-Mori titled "perils of perception".

And when the results are very suspicious, it is probably a problem with their methodology. But we will never know since we cannot get individual answers.

My suspicion is that people in large conurbations and poor areas are over-represented, and the weighting on regions and income cannot completely eliminate this. Because when a third of people in your school in Muslims, you naturally conclude that a third of your country is Muslim, even though there are none among retirees and in the countryside.


No. Like, a million times no. Anyone who thinks Islamism resembles a graver threat than the Soviet Union needs to be kept as far away from the levers of foreign policy as possible.
Of course terrorism itself is not dangerous. Well, as long as they do not put their hands on Pakistani and Iranian nuclear weapons, as Talibans almost did a few years ago

The true danger is our lax immigration policies. We are turning our large cities into Muslim areas and this will turn Western Europe into a new Nigeria or Lebanon. In 1900 we were the prosperous leaders of the world, heirs of a bimillennial history, in 2100 we will be random melting pots, slums where Muslims and non-Muslims hate each other, slaughter each other, cannot conduct our countries together, where distrust, lawlessness and corruption are the norms.

Our narcissistic pro-minority individualism, our idealization of tolerance and our hatred for our own domination have made us irresponsible. We will be the imbecile generations that wasted everything.
 
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