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Why aren't companies sued for not running background checks on illegal migrants?

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When companies hire Americans without a background check, they are sued for not doing their due diligence when something goes awry. Why is this not the case with illegal migrants? Even though they are imperfect, Latin American countries have a criminal record system. If anything, having a criminal conviction in Mexico or Brazil means having done something REALLY egregious, since a good lawyer or a bribe can prevent a criminal conviction.
 
When companies hire Americans without a background check, they are sued for not doing their due diligence. Why is this not the case with illegal migrants? Even though they are imperfect, Latin American countries have a criminal record system. If anything, having a criminal conviction in Mexico or Brazil means having done something REALLY egregious, since a good lawyer or a bribe can prevent a criminal conviction.

What type of fiction are you spewing? Not all companies run background checks, but those that do run them for all new hires, not some but not others. The company I work with is one of those companies that does. We also require the standard executed I-9 form and supporting documents that substantiate U.S. citizenship. We can't hire people without them. If someone doesn't have their SSC, drivers' license, birth certificate, passport, etc. we can't hire them. Most reputable companies operate this way. I'm sorry you work for such a shady outfit.
 
When companies hire Americans without a background check, they are sued for not doing their due diligence when something goes awry. Why is this not the case with illegal migrants? Even though they are imperfect, Latin American countries have a criminal record system. If anything, having a criminal conviction in Mexico or Brazil means having done something REALLY egregious, since a good lawyer or a bribe can prevent a criminal conviction.

The benefits of doing background checks are likely outweighed by the dangers of creating a paper trail regarding their illegal hiring.
 
When companies hire Americans without a background check, they are sued for not doing their due diligence when something goes awry. Why is this not the case with illegal migrants? Even though they are imperfect, Latin American countries have a criminal record system. If anything, having a criminal conviction in Mexico or Brazil means having done something REALLY egregious, since a good lawyer or a bribe can prevent a criminal conviction.

When something goes awry, they are sued. Where are you getting that this isn't the case with illegal migrants? Victims don't wait to find out the legal status of the criminal that victimized them before they sue the company that hired him.
 
What type of fiction are you spewing? Not all companies run background checks, but those that do run them for all new hires, not some but not others. The company I work with is one of those companies that does. We also require the standard executed I-9 form and supporting documents that substantiate U.S. citizenship. We can't hire people without them. If someone doesn't have their SSC, drivers' license, birth certificate, passport, etc. we can't hire them. Most reputable companies operate this way. I'm sorry you work for such a shady outfit.

That’s the way it worked where I was working before retirement. Every single new hire had to show documentation that they were either citizens or legal immigrants. I’m sure some employers aren’t so diligent. I’ve heard rumors that two small businesses in my small town pay their employees in cash, under the table, off the books. I wouldn’t be surprised if they were employing some illegal immigrants.
 
When companies hire Americans without a background check, they are sued for not doing their due diligence when something goes awry. Why is this not the case with illegal migrants? Even though they are imperfect, Latin American countries have a criminal record system. If anything, having a criminal conviction in Mexico or Brazil means having done something REALLY egregious, since a good lawyer or a bribe can prevent a criminal conviction.

Do you even have a clue as to what E-Verify is?
 
When companies hire Americans without a background check, they are sued for not doing their due diligence when something goes awry. Why is this not the case with illegal migrants? Even though they are imperfect, Latin American countries have a criminal record system. If anything, having a criminal conviction in Mexico or Brazil means having done something REALLY egregious, since a good lawyer or a bribe can prevent a criminal conviction.

Perhaps they were deemed to have been "extremely careless" rather than "grossly negilegent" in their employment practices. ;)
 
When companies hire Americans without a background check, they are sued for not doing their due diligence when something goes awry. Why is this not the case with illegal migrants? Even though they are imperfect, Latin American countries have a criminal record system. If anything, having a criminal conviction in Mexico or Brazil means having done something REALLY egregious, since a good lawyer or a bribe can prevent a criminal conviction.

They often use fake identities and disappear as soon as they are flagged.
 
When companies hire Americans without a background check, they are sued for not doing their due diligence when something goes awry.


Excellent point!

That is why I am terrified of using those ride-sharing services.

Any person, I hear, can get signed up to drive for those services. Here in Los Angeles, the police report hundreds and hundreds of complaints each year from both drivers and passengers.

And, of course, we know all about those notorious cases that make the news.

So I am forced to try to get a regular taxi. It can be difficult because some cabbies refuse to honor a senior citizen-discount card that they are legally required to honor. "To Hades with the law," they figure.
 
Do you even have a clue as to what E-Verify is?

That adds an interesting detail. Is NOT using E-Verify actionable negligence?
 
That’s the way it worked where I was working before retirement. Every single new hire had to show documentation that they were either citizens or legal immigrants. I’m sure some employers aren’t so diligent. I’ve heard rumors that two small businesses in my small town pay their employees in cash, under the table, off the books. I wouldn’t be surprised if they were employing some illegal immigrants.

Yep, that's how employers get away with both skirting citizenship laws and tax laws. Right wing nuts beat their chests about "the invasion of illegal immigrants" while what they should be doing is cracking down on employers that hire them.
 
When companies hire Americans without a background check, they are sued for not doing their due diligence when something goes awry. Why is this not the case with illegal migrants? Even though they are imperfect, Latin American countries have a criminal record system. If anything, having a criminal conviction in Mexico or Brazil means having done something REALLY egregious, since a good lawyer or a bribe can prevent a criminal conviction.

Entry into the Union is a federal obligation not binding on the several States of the Union since 1808.

Natural rights apply once within a State.

All people are by nature free and independent and have inalienable rights. Among these are enjoying and defending life and liberty, acquiring, possessing, and protecting property, and pursuing and obtaining safety, happiness, and privacy.
 
That adds an interesting detail. Is NOT using E-Verify actionable negligence?

That’s an excellent question, and I’m afraid I don’t have the answer. I’d like to know myself. Does anybody else?
 
illegals will work for a company that contracts them to businesses. Thats how a company I worked for got around the background check. US citizens would be direct hires to company and have to do background and drug test. However, the illegals who worked on contract were not subject to background and drug tests because they were employees of the company contracting them out.
 
Because the majority of jobs illegals get are usually unskilled, or manual labor. If they want something better, they get fake SS#, or some other form of acceptable ID. And no, most companies don't really do a background check on your citizenship, but your criminal background (like most retailers and especially grocery stores) concerning only the US. As long as there is a SS# that can be used to send money to from the payroll then the employer is fine. For manual labor, they just deal in cash. Much easier.

Further, when certain, large enough companies who give politicians a chunk of money complain about their workers getting deported and that they now have pay a living wage to an American citizen to said politicians...then those on the right start looking to create loopholes for their donors.
 
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