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US held record number of migrant children in custody in 2019

Cynical said:
Out of one side of their mouth they claim that they don't want open borders, but then complain that best thing to do in virtually every situation that arises at the border is to have open borders.
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Sure, sure, unless you're all for separating families and building a wall, you're for open borders. After all, there couldn't possibly be any other alternatives.
 
ocean515 said:
Insuring the safety of children is paramount to the Trump Administration. The only children who were separated were those who were with adults who had no identification, or were otherwise suspicious.

Parents who showed up with proper ID, etc. were not separated.

Shame on those parents who put their children's lives at risk. Explains why their cultures are failures.
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That is total BS. Read the opening post and the link therein.
 
Cynical said:
Asylum is supposed to be for a very narrow group of people:

"Those seeking asylum must prove that that they are escaping their homeland because of persecution due to race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion.[9] The Immigration and Nationality Act explicitly provides these five bases for granting asylum,[10] having been heavily influenced by the 1951 United Nations Convention on the Status of Refugees." (Emphasis mine.)

Immigration Law: The Rules and Procedure for Asylum Seekers - LawShelf Educational Media

If it were not so narrowly defined literally billions of people throughout the world could claim they are seeking Asylum. The situation at the border is an absolute ****ing mess largely due to decades of gutless lawmakers on both sides who refused to deal with the many issues and do the right thing for the nation. As long as we have lackluster border security and laws/policies that entice people to come here illegally we are always going to have a mess at our borders.
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Correct, and so send the intact families back across the border if they don't have a legitimate cause for asylum.
 
americanwoman said:
A wall will only have them walk a little more to the coyote who dug a hole for them.

Knowing they have work and benefits on the other side of said wall with a much increased standard of living, nothing will stop them from trying to get over/under that wall.
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Which is why we need to change our laws/policies to not have theses incentives.
 
Dittohead not! said:
That is total BS. Read the opening post and the link therein.
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I'm well up to speed on the issue. Thanks anyway. And it's not BS.

Remember one of you propaganda operators who ran that cover of the little girl and President Trump. The one pushing the lies about separation?

That little girl was never separated from her mother. Why? Because her mother had all the necessary paperwork.

Father says little Honduran girl on Time cover was not taken from mother - Reuters

(I'll ignore the fact she should have been arrested for kidnapping the girl from her husband).
 
Dittohead not! said:
How many times must it be posted that the juveniles detained during the Obama Administration arrived unaccompanied? Maybe Trumpers don't understand that term:



There. Now we can quit reposting the Obamadidit crap.
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Those almost 600 juveniles were held without due process, without their parents' knowledge, had their rights and freedoms restricted in detention centers, were sent all over the country and for the purpose of DETERRENCE and squeezing them for cartel snitching. Which didn't end well for some of the kids when they got dumped back home.
 
ocean515 said:
I'm well up to speed on the issue. Thanks anyway. And it's not BS.

Remember one of you propaganda operators who ran that cover of the little girl and President Trump. The one pushing the lies about separation?

That little girl was never separated from her mother. Why? Because her mother had all the necessary paperwork.

(I'll ignore the fact she should have been arrested for kidnapping the girl from her husband).
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Don't forget about that father who got his little girl drowned in the Rio Grande river. That was somehow Trump's fault, too.
 
Acadia said:
Don't forget about that father who got his little girl drowned in the Rio Grande river. That was somehow Trump's fault, too.
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I'm not sure what the left's media partners could produce for their target audience everyday, if they didn't create lies and distortions.
 
US border: Who decided to separate families?


The president has frequently blamed his predecessor and the Democrats for a policy that led to children being separated from their parents at the southern US border.

Even though the Trump administration has officially ended the practice, some children are still separated and some are reportedly being kept in appalling conditions.

How did family separations come about?

Under a "zero-tolerance" immigration policy introduced in April 2018, adult undocumented migrants crossing the US-Mexico border were criminally charged and jailed.

These had previously been treated as civil violations.
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In addition to removing children from apprehended illegal migrants, children have also been separated from asylum seekers.

The president signed an executive order in June 2018 reversing the policy, promising to keep families together. A court order then ended separations and required families to be reunited.

Hundreds of children however remained in government shelters, and the New York Times has reported that a further 700 families have been separated in the past year because of "loopholes" in the court order.
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This is a policy of Donald Trump.
No, not of Republicans or of "conservatives," whatever that has come to mean, but of Donald Trump.
And it appears not even a court order has put a stop to the practice.
 
ocean515 said:
That is, after all, the reason why people on the left post so many lies and distortions. It's about the propaganda, not the facts.

Explains why the boiler rooms send so many new people here every time elections get near.

You think rational people don't notice?
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Oh, people did indeed notice the kids in Trump cages.
 
Dittohead not! said:
US border: Who decided to separate families?






This is a policy of Donald Trump.
No, not of Republicans or of "conservatives," whatever that has come to mean, but of Donald Trump.
And it appears not even a court order has put a stop to the practice.
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The Republicans (the Enablers) are in this just as deep as Trump. They all defended the cages on their trips to the border facilities.
 
bomberfox said:
Awweh your poor poor feewings.
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This is probably the most that we can expect from you... so, well done! You did a really... REALLY great job!!
 
j brown's body said:
The cruelty's the point. You support cruelty towards children.

I appreciate your honesty, despite its obvious inhumanity. So many Trumpsters try and rationalize it.
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You support children dying... it is healthy that you are able to admit this , although you finding it amusing that children are dying is a little worrying, but admitting it is the first step.
 
americanwoman said:
Trump should rightfully still get attacked for even starting the policy. It's inhumane.
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Obama said we could keep our own doctors... people's lives were adversely affected and harm was caused...
 
Bodhisattva said:
Obama said we could keep our own doctors... people's lives were adversely affected and harm was caused...
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He also gave people with preexisting conditions the opportunity not to be denied insurance or charge more and many more people's lives were positively affected and less harm was caused.

My example overrides yours. ;)
 
americanwoman said:
He also gave people with preexisting conditions the opportunity not to be denied insurance or charge more and many more people's lives were positively affected and less harm was caused.

My example overrides yours. ;)
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... and Chamberlain came back with "Peace in our Time"... tens of millions of people died after that.

... don't even get me started on William Henry Harrison.
 
Bodhisattva said:
This is probably the most that we can expect from you... so, well done! You did a really... REALLY great job!!
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Its all you deserve. Go ahead and whine in the basement.
 
Rogue Valley said:
The Republicans (the Enablers) are in this just as deep as Trump. They all defended the cages on their trips to the border facilities.
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They're just afraid to stand up to Trump, because they think it will cost them votes.

And, they're probably right.
 
Bodhisattva said:
Obama said we could keep our own doctors... people's lives were adversely affected and harm was caused...
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Most of us did keep our own doctors.

Say, from NZ, would you trade your system of health care for that of the USA pre Obma?
 
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Dittohead not! said:
Most of us did keep our own doctors.

Say, from NZ, would you trade your system of health care for that of the USA pre Obma?
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I wouldn't trade our system for any system out there... the US system sucked and still sucks...
 
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