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    Re: US held record number of migrant children in custody in 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Correct. Now, the Trump sycophants are saying that Obama removed unaccompanied children from their parents, and that somehow makes it OK. Surely, even a Trumper can see that it's not possible to remove unaccompanied children from their parents, can't they? No? Well, I suppose that sort of gullibility is how Trump was able to defraud so many and get away with it.
    The data is what it is. The facts are what they are. ICE, under Obama, did engage in a very suspect policy of removing the man from families and dropping them back across the Mexican border hundreds of miles away from the rest of the family was picked up. I don't know if these decisions then or now are made at the White House level or a lower level TBH. Many of the unaccompanied Honduran children moved this way after the coup that Hillary/Obama ratified. Immigration is a problem. Conditions in Central America are a problem. I don't see that either party really addresses the root causes in any meaningful way besides arguing who gets in and who doesn't.

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    Re: US held record number of migrant children in custody in 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Obama did not initiate the policy of removing children from their families as a way of discouraging asylum seekers. That was Trump.

    Aaaaand still, more were held by Obama in 2015 than Trump in 2019 with the policy.

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    Re: US held record number of migrant children in custody in 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by Drawdown View Post
    The data is what it is. The facts are what they are. ICE, under Obama, did engage in a very suspect policy of removing the man from families and dropping them back across the Mexican border hundreds of miles away from the rest of the family was picked up. I don't know if these decisions then or now are made at the White House level or a lower level TBH. Many of the unaccompanied Honduran children moved this way after the coup that Hillary/Obama ratified. Immigration is a problem. Conditions in Central America are a problem. I don't see that either party really addresses the root causes in any meaningful way besides arguing who gets in and who doesn't.
    Agreed that neither party really has addressed the root causes of the problem of asylum seekers from Central America, nor the problem of illegal immigration. Instead, they have made the issues into political footballs.

    This thread is about removing children from their parents as a way of discouraging asylum seekers. The Trump sycophants seem to think that's OK, because it was a policy initiated by Trump. They also seem to think that Trump was telling the truth when he said the policy was that of Obama, and that he ended it.

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    Re: US held record number of migrant children in custody in 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by dixon01767 View Post
    Aaaaand still, more were held by Obama in 2015 than Trump in 2019 with the policy.
    So, it's OK to take children from their parents as a policy.

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    Re: US held record number of migrant children in custody in 2019

    Is this thread intended to promote finishing the wall? Most of the logic is pointed in that direction. Fortunately, the number of unaccompanied children has dropped sharply in the last six months

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    Re: US held record number of migrant children in custody in 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    US held record number of migrant children in custody in 2019





    Posted just so the voters of this great nation don't forget what it government has been doing. This is a human rights abuse, pure and simple, and needs to be acknowledged for what it is and the damage being done mitigated in any way possible.


    Reuniting these families should be priority #1, don't you agree?
    No, because the vast majority of these children are unaccompanied minors. One can absolutely question the conditions they are held in but the detention itself is not a human rights abuse. What do you propose the government do when it finds thousands of children wandering around in the desert alone? Leave them there to die?

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    Re: US held record number of migrant children in custody in 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    So, it's OK to take children from their parents as a policy.
    Yes, until such time as it can be confirmed that the person claiming to be a parent is at minimum a relative or otherwise legal guardian.

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    Re: US held record number of migrant children in custody in 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    So, it's OK to take children from their parents as a policy.

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    ????? Yes, when parents are incarcerated for violating the law, they don't get to take their kids with them. It applies equally to the single American mom with 2 kids busted for possession and illegal border crossers. Keep em on the other side of a 20ft wall so we don't have to deal with the difficult situation of children with criminals as parents.

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    Re: US held record number of migrant children in custody in 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by dixon01767 View Post
    ????? Yes, when parents are incarcerated for violating the law, they don't get to take their kids with them. It applies equally to the single American mom with 2 kids busted for possession and illegal border crossers. Keep em on the other side of a 20ft wall so we don't have to deal with the difficult situation of children with criminals as parents.
    Because it's not a comparable situation.

    I'm sure you love these large government programs that use billions of our taxpayer money to detain children away from their parents but some of us prefer to be a humane country that can detain them together at the border and try and apply some logic to get the situation sorted out and handled by law.
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    Re: US held record number of migrant children in custody in 2019

    Quote Originally Posted by Jay59 View Post
    Is this thread intended to promote finishing the wall?

    Noooooo. Intended to promote not arresting illegal border crossers with kids. Have em sign a piece of paper and send them on their way. Provide assistance if they need any. Id advocate for a wall. Keep them on the other side and no need to do any separating.

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