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    Re: Actually, the Numbers Show That We Need More Immigration, Not Less

    Quote Originally Posted by RobertU View Post
    Presumably, a country with fewer people will consume fewer resources and less energy. Why is that a bad thing?
    Because fewer people = less demand for real estate = lower prices for real estate. The international banks own huge amounts of American real estate, and real estate debt, which is why they sponsor the diversity gospel. Those who hold the most influence over society view immigration as a source of

    1. more consumers, thus higher prices +
    2. more workers, thus lower wages
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    Re: Actually, the Numbers Show That We Need More Immigration, Not Less

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Then it sounds like we have something in common
    You never proved the basis of your OP sangha. The American economy does not 'need more immigration'.
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    Re: Actually, the Numbers Show That We Need More Immigration, Not Less

    Quote Originally Posted by truthatallcost View Post
    Yet Japan manages to rank 3rd in GDP year after year, ahead of countries who've taken in millions of migrants. These countries include the UK, Germany, and France.
    China, ranks #2, and also does not allow economic migrants to ever holds citizenship.
    You do realize that China has a population of over 1 billion right? And the country in first place (the US) has a population of just over 300 million. My point is that just looking at raw GDP can be misleading.

    The UK, Germany, and France have lower GDPs than China primarily because they each have less than 1/10 as many people as China, but they each have a higher GDP per capita. When adjusted for population, China is pretty much in the middle.

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    Re: Actually, the Numbers Show That We Need More Immigration, Not Less

    Quote Originally Posted by Masterhawk View Post
    You do realize that China has a population of over 1 billion right? And the country in first place (the US) has a population of just over 300 million. My point is that just looking at raw GDP can be misleading.

    The UK, Germany, and France have lower GDPs than China primarily because they each have less than 1/10 as many people as China, but they each have a higher GDP per capita. When adjusted for population, China is pretty much in the middle.
    So where are we headed, as a country? Is our per capita GDP going to grow or shrink with the addition of more migrants? Factor in the coming automation age when you consider the proposition, if you will.
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    Re: Actually, the Numbers Show That We Need More Immigration, Not Less

    Quote Originally Posted by truthatallcost View Post
    So where are we headed, as a country? Is our per capita GDP going to grow or shrink with the addition of more migrants? Factor in the coming automation age when you consider the proposition, if you will.
    There is evidence to suggest that immigrants benefit the economy. Low skilled immigration takes the jobs at the bottom for less money, driving down the price of goods. High skilled immigrants provide the US with the skills it needs.

    A common economy fallacy that people fall for, regarding immigration and automation is the lump of labor fallacy (the idea that jobs getting filled up means more unemployment). It is considered a fallacy because of the economics problem: resources are limited but desires are unlimited; this second caveat pretty much guarantees that there will always be work needed to be done. This is why the industrial revolution didn't lead to mass unemployment and it's also why the new automatic revolution won't likewise lead to mass unemployment.

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    Re: Actually, the Numbers Show That We Need More Immigration, Not Less

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    The Democratic Party's solution is to bring in the most uneducated, unskilled, impoverished and often bigoted, sexist and anti-secular people of all by the millions making the USA the world's dumping ground of the least desirable people of all.
    I read your post.

    So you must be an immigrant.

    Unless your a Native American you must be.

    Whites being evil, there is some poof that whites have been evil, but not all whites.

    Roman Catholic was the religion of the Nazis, but that doesn't mean all Roman Catholics are Nazis.

    Immigration has always made America strong and has always been opposed.

    Ben Franklin HATED the Germans and believed the world would be better if the were wiped out.

    The Irish, Jews, Italians, the French, Asians, Mexicans and virtually every race or culture that came to America have been slandered.

    Many of the greatest minds who won Nobel Prizes as Americans were immigrants. (About 75%)

    Nikoli Tesla father of A/C power, the radio, electric motors and 100's of other patents came to America with $4.00 and no job.
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    Re: Actually, the Numbers Show That We Need More Immigration, Not Less

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I agree that we need to increase immigration.
    Congratulations!

    Your wish is being amply fulfilled.

    I have just read that many people from ALL continents are crossing the Rio Grande -- with their suitcases.

    It is a sight that warms the cockles of the hearts of all open borders advocates.

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    Re: Actually, the Numbers Show That We Need More Immigration, Not Less

    Quote Originally Posted by truthatallcost View Post
    Yet Japan manages to rank 3rd in GDP year after year, ahead of countries who've taken in millions of migrants. These countries include the UK, Germany, and France.
    China, ranks #2, and also does not allow economic migrants to ever holds citizenship.
    Ever thought about adjusting for population? Japan has over 100 million while Germany has 80 million and the UK has 66 million. In regards to GDP (PPP) per capita, both countries are ahead of Japan. In 2017, the UK had $43,600 and Germany had $50,200 while Japan had $42,700 and China was at $16,600.
    List of countries by GDP (PPP) per capita - Wikipedia

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    Re: Actually, the Numbers Show That We Need More Immigration, Not Less

    LEGAL immigrants....not those that broke the law to be here or have been deported 20 or 30 times.

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