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Major multi-state ICE raid

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Feds Conduct Massive Worksite Raid In Two States, Arrest Business Owners For Employing Illegal Aliens | The Daily Caller

[FONT=&quot]Federal agents conducted a multi-state worksite raid at several Midwestern agricultural businesses on Wednesday, arresting more than 100 people including owners and supervisors who allegedly conspired to employ illegal aliens at the expense of American workers.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Homeland Security Investigations — the investigative arm of Immigration and Customs Enforcement — led the operation against at least 11 companies in Nebraska and Minnesota, The Grand Island Independent reported.

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[FONT=&quot]Along with more than 130 suspected illegal workers, agents arrested 14 business owners and managers for allegedly using bogus Social Security numbers to build a workforce of underpaid, exploitable illegal immigrants. Three other people involved in the scheme were also indicted but not taken into custody during the operation.

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[FONT=&quot]The operation was one of the largest worksite raids in HSI’s 15-year history, according to Tracy Cormier, the special agent in charge of the agency’s St. Paul field office, which covers Minnesota and Nebraska.

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[FONT=&quot]“I would say the amount of criminal warrants that are being executed will be one of the largest for HSI,” Cormier said, according to The Associated Press. “I’m not aware of a bigger one.”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Wednesday’s operation is notable because it targeted business ownership and management, not just illegal workers. Two of HSI’s recent worksite raids, one at a slaughterhouse in Tennessee and one at an Ohio landscaper, nabbed hundreds of illegal immigrants but have not resulted in federal charges against the employers themselves.

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[FONT=&quot]The raids are part of an effort by President Donald Trump’s administration to more closely scrutinize companies that hire illegal immigrants or foreign nationals without proper work authorization. Former Acting ICE Director Thomas Homan said in October 2017 he would make worksite enforcement investigations a priority in the coming year, and the agency appears to have made good on that promise.[/FONT]
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I am glad they are finally arresting the employers as well who are knowingly hiring illegal workers and exploiting them. This is a terrible situation for the families but they are breaking the law and have to understand the consequences which is even more of a reason we really need some kind of logical immigration reform. That's why we need more representatives who are moderate and sensible on immigration.
 
Let's face it- the reason illegals get hired for such things is because nobody wants that kind of job. I wonder if people will still be anti-immigration when the price of veggies goes up.
 
Moderate and sensible like abolishing ICE and pretending there is no border?
 
PoS said:
Let's face it- the reason illegals get hired for such things is because nobody wants that kind of job. I wonder if people will still be anti-immigration when the price of veggies goes up.
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You do understand that we voluntary and legally take in routinely over a million immigrants a year legally, that we could throw ever illegal out and let no more in and we still would not be anti-immigration if we continued to take over a million new ones a year....

RIGHT?
 
Actually enforcing our current immigration laws would be a major immigration policy reform. If those who employ 'undocumented' (third world?) labor inside the US are arrested then that is a very serious immigration reform policy. The myth that there are jobs which US citizens will not do must be destroyed - the real MW is that which will attract and retain qualified legal labor.
 
PoS said:
Let's face it- the reason illegals get hired for such things is because nobody wants that kind of job. I wonder if people will still be anti-immigration when the price of veggies goes up.
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And yet there are tons of citizens that do those jobs every day. Makes what you say here a load of hogwash.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Actually enforcing our current immigration laws would be a major immigration policy reform. If those who employ 'undocumented' (third world?) labor inside the US are arrested then that is a very serious immigration reform policy. The myth that there are jobs which US citizens will not do must be destroyed - the real MW is that which will attract and retain qualified legal labor.
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Ya but you know if we faced up to that side of the black market labor problem then we would need to deal with all the Americans who work off the books these days, and there is no appetite for that.

Otherwise we would be racists, and no one wants that.
 
americanwoman said:
Feds Conduct Massive Worksite Raid In Two States, Arrest Business Owners For Employing Illegal Aliens | The Daily Caller

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I am glad they are finally arresting the employers as well who are knowingly hiring illegal workers and exploiting them. This is a terrible situation for the families but they are breaking the law and have to understand the consequences which is even more of a reason we really need some kind of logical immigration reform. That's why we need more representatives who are moderate and sensible on immigration.
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Employers did nothing wrong. Its not their job to enforce federal law and they should instead be concerned with running their business. And this mostly be avoided by securing the border in the first place. The federal govt has created this problem.
 
americanwoman said:
No, that's not moderate at all. Nor is amnesty, a wall we can't afford, or just rounding up every illegal and deporting them.
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How is protecting your border from invaders not moderate? Its literally in the constitution as a duty of the federal govt. And its certainly affordable at less than 100bn. We collect over 3 trillion in taxes.
 
jonny5 said:
Employers did nothing wrong. Its not their job to enforce federal law and they should instead be concerned with running their business. And this mostly be avoided by securing the border in the first place. The federal govt has created this problem.
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Did you even read the article? They knowingly hired the illegals so they could cheat them and the government.
 
americanwoman said:
No, that's not moderate at all. Nor is amnesty, a wall we can't afford, or just rounding up every illegal and deporting them.
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We can afford free college, a guaranteed income and free healthcare for everyone in that comes here but we can’t afford a wall? There’s rarely, if ever, a situation where lefties are expected to be moderate or sensible about anything.
 
jonny5 said:
How is protecting your border from invaders not moderate? Its literally in the constitution as a duty of the federal govt. And its certainly affordable at less than 100bn. We collect over 3 trillion in taxes.
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We invited the "invaders" with jobs, welfare, and looking the other way for decades. Take those incentives away and we won't need a wall because the "invasion" will be much easier to control.
 
jonny5 said:
Employers did nothing wrong. Its not their job to enforce federal law and they should instead be concerned with running their business. And this mostly be avoided by securing the border in the first place. The federal govt has created this problem.
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Employers do not enforce federal law. But they are required to abide by federal law. With your statement then its perfectly OK for them to pollute rivers and lakes with arsenic, chop down vast tracts of trees without replanting a single tree, or hell, even kill someone. All in the name of running a business.
 
X Factor said:
We can afford free college, a guaranteed income and free healthcare for everyone in that comes here but we can’t afford a wall? There’s rarely, if ever, a situation where lefties are expected to be moderate or sensible about anything.
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I don't agree with a guaranteed income but instead of having a huge ineffective wall having our citizens be educated and healthy? Um, yes please!
 
americanwoman said:
Feds Conduct Massive Worksite Raid In Two States, Arrest Business Owners For Employing Illegal Aliens | The Daily Caller

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I am glad they are finally arresting the employers as well who are knowingly hiring illegal workers and exploiting them. This is a terrible situation for the families but they are breaking the law and have to understand the consequences which is even more of a reason we really need some kind of logical immigration reform. That's why we need more representatives who are moderate and sensible on immigration.
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The businesses are guilty of fraud -- they should be arrested -- and shut down.
 
Kal'Stang said:
And yet there are tons of citizens that do those jobs every day. Makes what you say here a load of hogwash.
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Not enough, which is why there is a higher percentage of undocumented workers in the food industry than the legal ones.

Here are the facts. So much for your "hogwash" remark.

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PoS said:
Let's face it- the reason illegals get hired for such things is because nobody wants that kind of job. I wonder if people will still be anti-immigration when the price of veggies goes up.
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There are hundreds of American workers who would gladly work at the slaughterhouses.
My son briefly worked at a Lexington, NE slaughterhouse (Tyson).
At shift change and during lunch all he saw were Hispanic faces.

They tried to build one in the town he was living in and the town said NO.
Tyson hardly ever hires locals and only hires illegal aliens.
Grand Island, NE is only an hour and a half away from where he was.

It is about time they started holding management and owners responsible for hiring illegals over Americans.
These are inside jobs in air conditioning, not out in the field picking lettuce.
They get hired because they can cook the books and only pay them 1/3 of what they would pay Americans.
 
jonny5 said:
Employers did nothing wrong. Its not their job to enforce federal law and they should instead be concerned with running their business. And this mostly be avoided by securing the border in the first place. The federal govt has created this problem.
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Yeah they did - read the whole article. They committed fraud. They purposefully cheated on the Social Security numbers so they could hire illegals.
 
X Factor said:
We can afford free college, a guaranteed income and free healthcare for everyone in that comes here but we can’t afford a wall? There’s rarely, if ever, a situation where lefties are expected to be moderate or sensible about anything.
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I don't agree with a wall. There are far more effective means than building a wall along one border. Such as requiring e-verify for every hire/renter/buyer of any vehicle or house, or bank account being opened.
 
Hawkeye10 said:
Ya but you know if we faced up to that side of the black market labor problem then we would need to deal with all the Americans who work off the books these days, and there is no appetite for that.

Otherwise we would be racists, and no one wants that.
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Those who work 'off the books' are not nearly as much of a problem as those who work 'on the books' in depressing wages/ benefits. It is not the guys that hang out in Home Depot parking lots or get hired by word of mouth (like I do) who depress construction trade wages - it is those that have no difficulty staffing their construction, food service or lawn maintenance company crews with low wage/benefit (third world) labor that make the big difference.
 
jonny5 said:
Employers did nothing wrong. Its not their job to enforce federal law and they should instead be concerned with running their business. And this mostly be avoided by securing the border in the first place. The federal govt has created this problem.
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Actually they did. They are required by law to ensure that the people that are working for them are able to do so.
Also they used bogus Social security numbers to hire people. so they committed fraud as well that is doing something wrong.
 
jonny5 said:
Employers did nothing wrong. Its not their job to enforce federal law and they should instead be concerned with running their business. And this mostly be avoided by securing the border in the first place. The federal govt has created this problem.
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In Accordance with the article, the employers were DEFINITELY in the wrong.

1. They insisted the illegals ONLY cash their paychecks at certain places and they charged them a fee to cash them

2. They withheld "taxes" from their checks, but never gave it to the government.

3. They were using these tactics to gain an advantage over their competition who were doing things legally.

If you say the employers were not doing anything wrong, you either did not read the whole article or think these practices are OK.
I am going to believe you just did not read the whole article.
I sometimes don't either.
No harm, no foul.

...and yes, you are correct, the federal government did create this problem.

now they are in the process of correcting it.
 
americanwoman said:
I don't agree with a guaranteed income but instead of having a huge ineffective wall having our citizens be educated and healthy? Um, yes please!
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Sorry, but you know that it being “ineffective” or “expensive” are not the real reasons you oppose the wall. I’ve lived on the border long to see the difference even just a tall fence can make. I don’t even particularly like the fence but yes, of course, a large physical barrier is more effective than not.
 
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