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Congratulations to more than 14,000 new American citizens!

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Congratulations to more than 14,000 new American citizens! Welcome!
https://www.uscis.gov/news/news-rele...ion-ceremonies



Celebrating Independence Day 2018 with Naturalization Ceremonies
Versión en español
On July 4, we celebrate our nation’s 242nd birthday and the day the Continental Congress adopted the Declaration of Independence in 1776.

USCIS marks Independence Day with naturalization ceremonies across the country. This year, we will welcome more than 14,000 new citizens in nearly 175 naturalization ceremonies between June 28 and July 10.

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This is the way it's done.
 
Congratulations to more than 14,000 new American citizens! Welcome!
https://www.uscis.gov/news/news-rele...ion-ceremonies



Celebrating Independence Day 2018 with Naturalization Ceremonies
Versión en español
On July 4, we celebrate our nation’s 242nd birthday and the day the Continental Congress adopted the Declaration of Independence in 1776.

USCIS marks Independence Day with naturalization ceremonies across the country. This year, we will welcome more than 14,000 new citizens in nearly 175 naturalization ceremonies between June 28 and July 10.

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This is the way it's done.

How else would YOU want it done?
 
Congratulations to more than 14,000 new American citizens! Welcome!
https://www.uscis.gov/news/news-rele...ion-ceremonies



Celebrating Independence Day 2018 with Naturalization Ceremonies
Versión en español
On July 4, we celebrate our nation’s 242nd birthday and the day the Continental Congress adopted the Declaration of Independence in 1776.

USCIS marks Independence Day with naturalization ceremonies across the country. This year, we will welcome more than 14,000 new citizens in nearly 175 naturalization ceremonies between June 28 and July 10.

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This is the way it's done.

It's a beautiful thing! WAIT A MINUTE! I'm told by lefters that Trump stopped this!
 
The United States has always been a welcoming country for legal immigration.
Come here legally work hard to achieve your dream. People succeed everyday.

Welcome to our newest citizens!


In absolute numbers, the United States has a larger immigrant population than any other country, with 47 million immigrants as of 2015. This represents 19.1% of the 244 million international migrants worldwide, and 14.4% of the U.S. population. Many other countries have large proportions of immigrants, such as Switzerland with 24.9% and Canada with 21.9%.

The United States currently admits about one million legal Immigrants each year.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_the_United_States
 
Congrats to them! I respect those who respect our country and laws and choose to do it the right way.
 
I don't understand the question. I said that this is the way it's done. As in 'the right way'.

Umm, yes. But first many of these people were allowed asylum in this country, then chose to work toward their citizenship. Trump is no longer allowing either asylum seekers or due process on the borders.

I came into this thread thinking it really was a big "Congratulations to our newest citizens"; instead, it was a snark attack directed toward those detained and deported without due process, while their children were put into camps around the country, and no governmental agency knows where they are.

Anyway, I personally do feel the joy and pride of those 14,000 new citizens, although I'm feeling a bit of shame and embarrassment by the attitude of many citizens who were actually born here.
 
Congratulations to more than 14,000 new American citizens! Welcome!
https://www.uscis.gov/news/news-rele...ion-ceremonies



Celebrating Independence Day 2018 with Naturalization Ceremonies
Versión en español
On July 4, we celebrate our nation’s 242nd birthday and the day the Continental Congress adopted the Declaration of Independence in 1776.

USCIS marks Independence Day with naturalization ceremonies across the country. This year, we will welcome more than 14,000 new citizens in nearly 175 naturalization ceremonies between June 28 and July 10.

View attachment 67235685


This is the way it's done.
Very cool! When my wife became a citizen we didn't even know it was going to be that particular day. We went for yet another routine appointment at the federal building and at the end if the meeting, the person we were talking to told us to come back after lunch to be sworn in. It was still a neat ceremony, we enjoyed it very much.
 
Congratulations to more than 14,000 new American citizens! Welcome!
https://www.uscis.gov/news/news-rele...ion-ceremonies



Celebrating Independence Day 2018 with Naturalization Ceremonies
Versión en español
On July 4, we celebrate our nation’s 242nd birthday and the day the Continental Congress adopted the Declaration of Independence in 1776.

USCIS marks Independence Day with naturalization ceremonies across the country. This year, we will welcome more than 14,000 new citizens in nearly 175 naturalization ceremonies between June 28 and July 10.

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This is the way it's done.



Hmmm

https://www.politico.com/newsletter...gration-to-drop-12-percent-under-trump-282640

I wonder if Holbie knows about that, or about what was pointed out in post #11. It's particularly shameful given how the thread was used as guise for a low blow.
 
Naturalization used to be a very simple process. Newcomers would arrive at Ellis Island. There, they would wait in a long line and get a health inspection. Afterwards, they would get an interview from the immigration service about potential destinations and job prospects. If the immigrant failed either the health inspection or the interview, he would be placed in detention for an eventual hearing. About 10% of all arrivals had detentions with hearings and only 2% were deported. Overall, this process would take a little more than a day for most cases and certainly no more than a year, assuming no deportation was involved.
https://classroom.synonym.com/proce...ugh-arrived-ellis-island-late-1800s-9519.html

Those were the old days.

Now, you have to follow more complicated procedures which can be found on the official website
https://travel.state.gov/content/tr...rate/the-immigrant-visa-process/petition.html

But the real problems come from the waiting times which vary by country. In a best case scenario, it will take over a year to be fully naturalized. It can take up to 33 years.
https://cis.org/Vaughan/Waiting-List-Legal-Immigrant-Visas-Keeps-Growing
 
Naturalization used to be a very simple process. Newcomers would arrive at Ellis Island. There, they would wait in a long line and get a health inspection. Afterwards, they would get an interview from the immigration service about potential destinations and job prospects. If the immigrant failed either the health inspection or the interview, he would be placed in detention for an eventual hearing. About 10% of all arrivals had detentions with hearings and only 2% were deported. Overall, this process would take a little more than a day for most cases and certainly no more than a year, assuming no deportation was involved.
https://classroom.synonym.com/proce...ugh-arrived-ellis-island-late-1800s-9519.html

Those were the old days.

Now, you have to follow more complicated procedures which can be found on the official website
https://travel.state.gov/content/tr...rate/the-immigrant-visa-process/petition.html

But the real problems come from the waiting times which vary by country. In a best case scenario, it will take over a year to be fully naturalized. It can take up to 33 years.
https://cis.org/Vaughan/Waiting-List-Legal-Immigrant-Visas-Keeps-Growing

Old world: Less people in the world at most 1 billion with only about 5 million inhabiting the US. Lots of open space. Far more resources available per person.

Today's world: More people in the world 7.6 billion with 325 million in the US. More resources required per person. Less space available.

Why wouldn't immigration of today be more complex than it was in the time of Ellis Island? Today's world is far more complex than it was back then.
 
Old world: Less people in the world at most 1 billion with only about 5 million inhabiting the US. Lots of open space. Far more resources available per person.

Today's world: More people in the world 7.6 billion with 325 million in the US. More resources required per person. Less space available.

Why wouldn't immigration of today be more complex than it was in the time of Ellis Island? Today's world is far more complex than it was back then.

Ellis island operated from 1892 till 1954. In the 1890 census (two years before Ellis Island opened), the US had roughly 60 million people and in the 1950 census, the US had almost 132 million. There's still plenty of open space in the US today. The population density in the US is 33 people per km2 whereas the global average (land only and excluding antarctica) is 57 people per km2.

Here are some other developed regions with higher population densities than the US (measured by people per km2):

EU: 116

Germany: 232

Japan: 335

South Korea: 515

For the US to be as densely populated as South Korea, it would have to have population of over 5 billion. If it would take 5 billion people to get to the density of South Korea which is showing no signs of food shortage, how am I supposed to believe that immigrants will drain the resources of the US?


As for out world becoming more complicated, that may justify more complicated procedures but how does it justify the very long wait times?
 
Congratulations to more than 14,000 new American citizens! Welcome!
https://www.uscis.gov/news/news-rele...ion-ceremonies



Celebrating Independence Day 2018 with Naturalization Ceremonies
Versión en español
On July 4, we celebrate our nation’s 242nd birthday and the day the Continental Congress adopted the Declaration of Independence in 1776.

USCIS marks Independence Day with naturalization ceremonies across the country. This year, we will welcome more than 14,000 new citizens in nearly 175 naturalization ceremonies between June 28 and July 10.

View attachment 67235685


This is the way it's done.

expand it to any one who wants to be a citizen and is not a violent criminal and that will be the way it should be done
 
Old world: Less people in the world at most 1 billion with only about 5 million inhabiting the US. Lots of open space. Far more resources available per person.

Today's world: More people in the world 7.6 billion with 325 million in the US. More resources required per person. Less space available.

Why wouldn't immigration of today be more complex than it was in the time of Ellis Island? Today's world is far more complex than it was back then.

unless you have a population cap in mind for the country that you want to hold citizens to as well just sounds like a bull**** excuse

but i believe your fear and greed at least
 
expand it to any one who wants to be a citizen and is not a violent criminal and that will be the way it should be done

It is. Anyone who wants to become a citizen can do the same thing.
 
As for out world becoming more complicated, that may justify more complicated procedures but how does it justify the very long wait times?

More complicated procedures generally means more time in going through those procedures. There are a multitude of reasons for it taking so long. Plain fact of the matter is that there isn't some grand conspiracy to keep people out of the US. In a complicated world, things are going to take time. Can it be streamlined? Most certainly it can. Wish it were. But in the end it is what it is.

unless you have a population cap in mind for the country that you want to hold citizens to as well just sounds like a bull**** excuse

but i believe your fear and greed at least

I have no population cap in mind period. My comment was solely about Masterhawk's complaint about how in the old world immigration was easy while today its complicated. There was no other "ulterior" motive. That is of your own making, not mine. However even if I were talking about some sort of cap on the amount of people entering the US and becoming citizens...so what? That is our choice to make and we have that Right to as this is OUR country. OUR home. We can choose to invite as many, or as little people as we want. There is no Right to come into the US, or any other country in the world, willy nilly any more than there is a Right for complete strangers to enter your home willy nilly.
 
More complicated procedures generally means more time in going through those procedures. There are a multitude of reasons for it taking so long. Plain fact of the matter is that there isn't some grand conspiracy to keep people out of the US. In a complicated world, things are going to take time. Can it be streamlined? Most certainly it can. Wish it were. But in the end it is what it is.



I have no population cap in mind period. My comment was solely about Masterhawk's complaint about how in the old world immigration was easy while today its complicated. There was no other "ulterior" motive. That is of your own making, not mine. However even if I were talking about some sort of cap on the amount of people entering the US and becoming citizens...so what? That is our choice to make and we have that Right to as this is OUR country. OUR home. We can choose to invite as many, or as little people as we want. There is no Right to come into the US, or any other country in the world, willy nilly any more than there is a Right for complete strangers to enter your home willy nilly.


so you weer bull****ng about space and reasocuces
 
How else would YOU want it done?

Luv it !!

no matter if you lean Right or Left this is the greatest country on earth. We have guaranteed Rights. We have more in common Dems and Rep than what divides us. We let the damn politicians separate us !! I say screw them !!
 
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