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Deportation Hysteria

Helix said:
depends on the crime. my opinion is that little kids don't have much of a choice where their parents decide to work, citizen or not.
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I'm not even sure I'd agree to deporting someone who came here as a child, no matter what they did as an adult. Punish them like we do everyone else, let them do their time, and then let them live their lives free and clear.

Deporting someone back to a country they do not know is barbaric. This is especially true if you deport some guy in his 40's or 50's, who came here as a baby, just because he drove drunk or something silly like that.
 
calamity said:
I'm not even sure I'd agree to deporting someone who came here as a child, no matter what they did as an adult. Punish them like we do everyone else, let them do their time, and then let them live their lives free and clear.

Deporting someone back to a country they do not know is barbaric. This is especially true if you deport some guy in his 40's or 50's, who came here as a baby, just because he drove drunk or something silly like that.
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yeah, i don't support deporting someone in that situation, either.
 
calamity said:
That might explain it. He had a DUI plus one conviction for theft and another for criminal damage to property. I'm not sure his DUI was "aggravated" but the theft is certainly falling under moral terpitude. CDP probably not so much, unless it was vandalism during a riot.

Other deportable offenses include (some you list above): possession of controlled substances, except small amounts of marijuana, domestic abuse, any aggravated felony, tax evasion, fraud, voting, misrepresenting citizenship, and a few other things along those lines. Also, anything political, like giving money to some party or some organization involved in politics or opposed to the US in general.

Like I said, news to me.
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ICE is being very quiet, but they'll eventually have to reveal the reason for detaining the guy.

On the one hand, unless there's something we don't know yet, I don't see a compelling reason to deport this guy. It seems like they might be reaching. On the other hand, I hope he's not given special treatment because he's white and from Poland. How many poor "brown" folks face the same problems but because they're not someone in their neighborhood, no one advocates for them?
 
HowardBThiname said:
ICE is being very quiet, but they'll eventually have to reveal the reason for detaining the guy.

On the one hand, unless there's something we don't know yet, I don't see a compelling reason to deport this guy. It seems like they might be reaching. On the other hand, I hope he's not given special treatment because he's white and from Poland. How many poor "brown" folks face the same problems but because they're not someone in their neighborhood, no one advocates for them?
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That article suggests that he went to renew his greencard, and then this happened. My guess is he didn't pass the background check. So, they rounded him up. I expect there to be a lot more of these now that enforcement rules have changed.
 
Helix said:
that would be taxation without representation. i don't really dig a second or third class citizenship setup.
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it's better than going home. Felons lose their voting rights. it would not be a stretch to say to illegal aliens that "you can stay, but you can't vote". Many countries do this.
 
calamity said:
Ok, I get deporting drug dealers and illegals. And, even if I don't agree with all of it, I can even understand why you'd want to deport illegal alien parents of American citizens or those brought here illegally as kids by parents. As barbaric as that is, at least it makes some sort of sense. Sort of.

But this?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/i...0-years/ar-AAv0xFp?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp

This makes no freaking sense. We're deporting a legal immigrant doctor because he screwed up over 25 years ago? And, making it worse, his screw up was a not even a felony, just a misdemeanor or two. Seriously?

Has this country gone crazy?
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As long as we resort to accusing each other, this is indeed a matter of hysteria. This can be worked out without all the noise, hate mongering and nonsense.
 
Lovebug said:
As long as we resort to accusing each other, this is indeed a matter of hysteria. This can be worked out without all the noise, hate mongering and nonsense.
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We've gone way beyond that...if you haven't noticed.
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
it's better than going home. Felons lose their voting rights. it would not be a stretch to say to illegal aliens that "you can stay, but you can't vote". Many countries do this.
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i still don't support it. they should at least have some path to citizenship that doesn't involve going to another country and sitting there for ten years, IMO.
 
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