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When deportation is a death sentence

She was begging the officer to allow her to call her mom and show the arresting officer the paperwork that showed that she had a protection order againist her ex,.

She was denied justice.




What country was this restraining order issued in?
 
To make a long story short, no one called her mom, she was deported without a hearing, and her ex tortured and killed her.

And, she's not alone.

Read more here

Some of them are, I assume, good people. Yes, and some of those good people are fleeing bad people.

I’ll bet half of China and half of India would move here if given the chance. They are fleeing bad people too - their governments.
 
All human beings have the right to have a fair trial, it is a human right.



You are here illegally, You get sent back, simple as that. COme here legally then you can get your fair trial. She was treated fairly. Did she go to the mexican authorities?
 
What country was this restraining order issued in?

That is not the point.

The protective order was evidence showing why the woman should not have been deported. Being sent back to Mexico was a death sentence for her because her ex was waiting to kill her if she ever returned.
 
That is not the point.

The protective order was evidence showing why the woman should not have been deported. Being sent back to Mexico was a death sentence for her because her ex was waiting to kill her if she ever returned.



The judge had no jursidiction to issue such for an illegal alien, he should have followed the law and called immigration.
 
You are here illegally, You get sent back, simple as that. COme here legally then you can get your fair trial. She was treated fairly. Did she go to the mexican authorities?

Fair? She was denied the chance to explain her situation.


For years, most undocumented immigrants facing deportation in the U.S. were given a chance to go before a judge—to show evidence, call witnesses, and make a case for why they should be allowed to stay. In 1996, Congress revoked that right for tens of thousands of immigrants, expanding forms of “summary removal,” which can take place without a hearing or judicial input. By 2013, more than eighty per cent of deportations were nonjudicial, with the result that life-or-death decisions now routinely rest in the hands of immigration authorities at the border.
Even when asylum seekers get the opportunity to see a judge, it can be difficult to prove that their fears merit legal relief. Asylum seekers aren’t entitled to lawyers, and children as young as three have been told to represent themselves in immigration court. According to Transactional Records Access Clearinghouse, at Syracuse University, asylum seekers who find legal representation are five times more likely to win their cases. Geography is a strong determining factor in their fates. When the Government Accountability Office studied the outcomes of asylum cases in courts nationwide, it found significant geographical disparities in the responses to nearly identical situations. Between 2007 and 2014, some sixty per cent of asylum applicants won their cases in New York City, while in the courts of Omaha and Atlanta less than five per cent did.
Perhaps the most formidable challenge for asylum seekers is that the Second World War-era categories of protection aren’t well suited to immigrants fleeing modern gang violence. Courts resist recognizing the asylum claims of people who have been targeted by MS-13, for instance, because the motive for violence rarely fits the criteria. For victims of domestic violence, the legal protections, including the Violence Against Women Act, are slightly more favorable. If Laura had gone before a judge, she could have had multiple options for potential relief, including a U visa, for crime victims. Still, the legal scholar Blaine Bookey writes, “Whether a woman fleeing domestic violence will receive protection in the United States seems to depend not on the consistent application of objective principles, but rather on the view of her individual judge, often untethered to any legal principles at all.”

Border patrol officers should not be given total authority over who gets deported
 
Fair? She was denied the chance to explain her situation.




Border patrol officers should not be given total authority over who gets deported




I disagree especially at the border, they should have the right if the person is a known illegal alien, be escorted over the bridge on the spot.
 
To make a long story short, no one called her mom, she was deported without a hearing, and her ex tortured and killed her.

And, she's not alone.

Read more here

Some of them are, I assume, good people. Yes, and some of those good people are fleeing bad people.

The US is not responsible for the crappy life people all over the world have.

It may sound cold, but it's a fact.
 
Then they must be considered culpable if they person they deported is murdered in the country she was sent back to.



1. who decided to cross illegally into this country?

2. who decided to get involved with a violent illegal alien?



The only peoples fault this is, are the guy that killed her and the mexican authorities for failing to protect her.
 
1. who decided to cross illegally into this country?

2. who decided to get involved with a violent illegal alien?



The only peoples fault this is, are the guy that killed her and the mexican authorities for failing to protect her.

She was safe here in the United States. Deporting her back made it easier for her ex to kill her.
 
So a Mexican killed a Mexican and it's because of deportation? What kind of twisted logic is that? In Chad, a man threatens to beat his wife. But if she were safely located in the U.S. and on welfare at U.S. taxpayer expense then she would be safe!

A woman came to the US to seek asylum. She had papers, but did not have them with her. No one would let her call her mom, who had the papers. The INS deported her despite her saying that going back would be a death sentence. She was deported, tortured, and killed.

You left a few facts out.
 
You know, you can pull up sad story after sad story. It doesn't excuse the person who did the deed. THEY are responsible,
For every one of those stories, there is one for an illegal hurting or killing a US citizen. What should we say to them and their families?

You can, indeed, pull up a lot of sad stories.

Perhaps we should just declare to the world that no one can come here to seek safety from violence.
 
That is the fault of the man who murdered her and the fault of her government for not protecting her against that man.

Correct, and the fault of the Nazis for the deaths of Jews who were turned back to Germany back in WWII.

From the link in the OP:

For the U.S., the effort to protect refugees was also an act of atonement. In 1939, the government had rejected a boat carrying more than nine hundred Jewish escapees from Nazi Germany. At least two hundred of them were later killed in the Holocaust. As the refugee crisis worsened, countless more were refused entry. President Franklin Roosevelt had warned the public that Jews posed a national-security threat, and argued for tighter restrictions on their numbers. “In some of the other countries that refugees out of Germany have gone to, especially Jewish refugees, they found a number of definitely proven spies,” he said at a press conference. Among those denied entry was Anne Frank, whose father applied for refugee status for his family in 1941, unsuccessfully. “What is done cannot be undone,” Anne wrote in her diary, “but one can prevent it happening again.” She later died of typhus in the Bergen-Belsen concentration camp

So, the atonement has run its course.
 
It's a bad circumstance, but we can't take everyone in. We have how many Americans being killed violently, some by illegal immigrants.

We can't take in everyone, but we can give the deportees a hearing and maybe not send them home to their deaths.
 
Did she apply for asylum or was she just an illegal immigrant? Seems like you're inserting your own details and facts in that don't exist.

Read the article in the OP. There, you will find the answer.
 
"... To make a long story short, no one called her mom, she was deported without a hearing, and her ex tortured and killed her. ..."




I guess you haven't read all the stories of American women who have a protection order against their ex here in the US of A ... and they end up being killed by their ex anyway.

Maybe we should send all the American women who have a protection order against their ex to Denmark to protect them.
 
The US is not responsible for the crappy life people all over the world have.

It may sound cold, but it's a fact.

It is a fact.
But we don't have to send people who have come here for safety back to be killed.
 
Anyone want to bring up the issue of whether the US is or is not a Christian nation?
 
"... To make a long story short, no one called her mom, she was deported without a hearing, and her ex tortured and killed her. ..."




I guess you haven't read all the stories of American women who have a protection order against their ex here in the US of A ... and they end up being killed by their ex anyway.

Maybe we should send all the American women who have a protection order against their ex to Denmark to protect them.

Right, and should they go elsewhere seeking asylum. they should be denied and sent packing back to their abusive spouses. After all, it's their own fault they married the guy, right?
 
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