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Another Terrorist Attack in NYC

Buzz62 said:
Well that's just about the most 'pie in the sky' assertion I think I've ever heard.
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It's hard-nosed reality, buddy. You can't ever defeat terrorism if you keep rewarding it by doing just what the terrorists want.
 
Grand Mal said:
It's hard-nosed reality, buddy. You can't ever defeat terrorism if you keep rewarding it by doing just what the terrorists want.
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And you think what they want, is to be unable to enter the country?
Cool...:roll:
 
Buzz62 said:
And you think what they want, is to be unable to enter the country?
Cool...:roll:
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What they want is for us all to stop accepting refugees. They want all those innocents to stay in Syria and Iraq where they're useful to them.
I'm surprised we haven't had a terrorist attack in Canada since we've accepted so many, but that's not a reason to stop taking them in.
 
Grand Mal said:
What they want is for us all to stop accepting refugees. They want all those innocents to stay in Syria and Iraq where they're useful to them.
I'm surprised we haven't had a terrorist attack in Canada since we've accepted so many, but that's not a reason to stop taking them in.
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OK wait...they want us to stop accepting refugees...so they can...what? Shoot them? Brain wash them? What? Do you have any idea how silly that sounds? Really man, have you thought this through? And Canada has had a few terrorist attacks now. Edmonton being the most recent I think.
 
Buzz62 said:
If you can't bring yourself to stand up for and protect your country...why don't you just let those who have a spine...do so for you?
Your flakey outlook is straight outta the Anti-Trump play book. Especially since...I bet you didn't say a single word when Obama instituted the original ban...did you...

Didn't think so...:roll:
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What and ugly, insulting post.

Donald Trump's playbook is EXACTLY what terrorist leaders want. Every time he opens his racist mouth they have "evidence" that America hates Muslims, the Muslim religion and is out to destroy them. His rhetoric meshes with theirs in every way.

Secondly, as it appears you know the whole history of the issue, could you direct me to a site where I can find a list of attacks against America that originated by terrorists outside the USA? The argument for a bigoted ban breaks down completely when you note that, and even more so when you realize you and your president believe Homeland Security if too incompetent to do the job.

Two years ago, Canada accepted 64,000 refugees. At the time the of so very serene Trump crowd was eating the environment, with posts like "they are going to rape your women" and "we'll build a northern wall" and "Canadians are idiots"

Well, let's look at the record. No rapes, nothing. Our crime rate continues to plummet, and we have some 250 qualified medical workers, engineers etc. out of the deal.

You see, there is a flaw in the core of your thinking that blinds you all to the reality, the rhetoric hides the fact that there has NEVER been a terrorist attack anywhere in the world that was born in a refugee camp.

Your fear and horror are imaginary.

I suggest too, you may want to tone down your own rhetoric
 
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Grand Mal said:
What they want is for us all to stop accepting refugees. They want all those innocents to stay in Syria and Iraq where they're useful to them.
I'm surprised we haven't had a terrorist attack in Canada since we've accepted so many, but that's not a reason to stop taking them in.
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OH we've had some attacks, some incidents....like the US though, they were all home grown.
 
Gaius46 said:
Final time - it isn't about "protecting your country." They aren't a threat to the country. They are criminals, nothing more. They should be dealt with by the police. My point is that they are not a national security issue. You keep insisting on mischaracterizing my statements with nonsense about me "not wanting to protecting my country." Get it straight okay - they ARE NOT a threat to my country. To individual citizens? Yes. Like any other criminal. But my country will not fall apart because of terrorist threats. Okay? Is that clear now?

As to Obama - he did't do anything even remotely like what Trump has proposed.
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Notice the logic here....

Because you (and I) won't buy the hate rhetoric, that legitimate stance gets mutated into the statement "you don't want to protect your country."

It's been too long since I took a course in propaganda but that logic has a name, and was invented in 1930's Germany.

They don't debate, they accuse and abuse but they don't have enough information to debate. This guy's entire stance breaks down to dryer lint with the fact that every terrorist attack came from within, and the majority of them (if you include mass shootings) come from non-Muslims. But Trump, like Mussolini, Idi Amin, Adolf Hitler, Saddam Hussein, need a vessel to which they can direct hate, the single most powerful and dangerous emotion man can have.
 
Cameron said:
Funny, all the attacks happen in liberal areas and yet it's the people in the middle of nowhere telling them what is "needed."
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These are people who worship a man who lies more than all the other presidents put together, has no control over his childish emotions, and has not one iota of grace in his self involved person...

...who the **** would even think of doing what they tell us we "need"

What we need, the world needs, at least for a break is for the fear mongering, deliberate hate texts, and childish antics...they have to end. Sociologists are already talking about people becoming "Trump weary"

None of his impact has been good for the masses, it's like living with a tantrum thrower and the world has had enough of the bull****, fear mongering, lies, bait threads like this.

So far Donald Trump's major impact has been on-going annoyance, whining and bitching....about HIM and how the world has created a monster conspiracy only designed to stop him.
 
Here's the latest with pictures...

[video]http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/train-derailed-tacoma-vancouver-portland-1.4454248[/video]
 
Fearandloathing said:
What and ugly, insulting post.
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Well, Oh My...:shock:
I guess Abdulahi Hasan Sharif stabbing and running down cops and others in the name of the Islamist State, is acceptable to you?
I mean...we wouldn't wanna piss off any Muslim people...don't ya know...:roll:

You may be insulted if you like. I'm not a big fan of people who run away from fights, or belittle the victims.
Bet ya didn't say "Oh only 1 person died in Charlottesville." did ya.
No I bet that threat you take very seriously...but its OK if'n their Muslim...right?

Fearandloathing said:
Donald Trump's playbook is EXACTLY what terrorist leaders want. Every time he opens his racist mouth they have "evidence" that America hates Muslims, the Muslim religion and is out to destroy them. His rhetoric meshes with theirs in every way.
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Oh that's just such horse kaka.
Muslim people are ramming people with cars and trucks, blowing up concert halls full of kids, opening fire in bars, etc...etc...etc...
I think its prudent and wise to think immigration from any state that is a source of this religious war, should be halted.

Fearandloathing said:
Secondly, as it appears you know the whole history of the issue, could you direct me to a site where I can find a list of attacks against America that originated by terrorists outside the USA? The argument for a bigoted ban breaks down completely when you note that, and even more so when you realize you and your president believe Homeland Security if too incompetent to do the job.
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9/11
Edmonton
California

Fearandloathing said:
Two years ago, Canada accepted 64,000 refugees. At the time the of so very serene Trump crowd was eating the environment, with posts like "they are going to rape your women" and "we'll build a northern wall" and "Canadians are idiots"
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And instead a man the USA didn't want in their country, came here to try to kill people instead.
Stupid us.

Fearandloathing said:
Well, let's look at the record. No rapes, nothing. Our crime rate continues to plummet, and we have some 250 qualified medical workers, engineers etc. out of the deal.

You see, there is a flaw in the core of your thinking that blinds you all to the reality, the rhetoric hides the fact that there has NEVER been a terrorist attack anywhere in the world that was born in a refugee camp.
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/12/dunkirk-child-refugees-risk-sexual-violence
Don't know about you, but I don't want these fine rapists in Canada.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/12/dunkirk-child-refugees-risk-sexual-violenceYour f
Fearandloathing said:
Fear and horror are imaginary.

I suggest too, you may want to tone down your own rhetoric
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You can suggest whatever you like. I will stand up for my flag and nation.
 
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YorkshirePete said:
I thought white boys had killed more here since 911 than the dreaded brown people.
Not worried about them??
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Of course I am. Existing internal threats should be every citizen's concern.
Importing more threats...is just plain stupid.
 
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