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Border Wall Questions

The Resister said:
No, it didn't come out of thin air. I've done this umpteen times, so here is a copy and paste from when I answered this with respect to the founders of the idea
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Did you post it in the conspiracy forum per chance? I read it through and do correct me where I get this wrong:

Trump is being deceptive in 2016 because of his political commentary in 1991 / 2000 when he disavowed David Duke who was a common talking point due to news coverage at the time and his attempts to run republican verses democrat as he did previously?

Then Neo-nazis are a fan and have been one of advocates for the wall and involved with the idea; which, stands to reason as their agenda is an ethno-state? Pretty sure it's the only reason they like trump, you know neo-nazis enemy #1 are Jews right?

And something about eugenics and steve bannon (who is definitely no neo-nazi based on his hires and associates alone) so...okay? Neo-nazis = wall.

Yeah, no I don't know the link to the interview off hand but trumps out right said the wall came from a book : "adios America" by Ann Coulter and we can assume some polls he saw...he likely thought with his New York construction background it be an easy popular promise to keep and a way to separate from Jeb (unfortunately he likely estimated wrong as the obstacles are many)

And I pretty sure Bill was the first to talk a wall. This is a very old bipartisan idea - it's why it's actually already on the books....the democrats changed when they realized Latino are huge support base 8/10...legalization would mean millions of New Democratic voters...
 
The Resister said:
Given the left's victory on the statue and memorials issue, don't you think Trump's border wall is about to become history?

Wouldn't the left now seize on those border wall efforts to accuse Trump of pandering to racists?

Once the MSM links all the nazi organizations to the past support of the border wall and making a racist referendum, does anyone here think Trump is about to abandon the border wall fight?
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1. No.
2. They can try.
3. No.
 
Conaeolos said:
Did you post it in the conspiracy forum per chance? I read it through and do correct me where I get this wrong:

Trump is being deceptive in 2016 because of his political commentary in 1991 / 2000 when he disavowed David Duke who was a common talking point due to news coverage at the time and his attempts to run republican verses democrat as he did previously?

Then Neo-nazis are a fan and have been one of advocates for the wall and involved with the idea; which, stands to reason as their agenda is an ethno-state? Pretty sure it's the only reason they like trump, you know neo-nazis enemy #1 are Jews right?

And something about eugenics and steve bannon (who is definitely no neo-nazi based on his hires and associates alone) so...okay? Neo-nazis = wall.

Yeah, no I don't know the link to the interview off hand but trumps out right said the wall came from a book : "adios America" by Ann Coulter and we can assume some polls he saw...he likely thought with his New York construction background it be an easy popular promise to keep and a way to separate from Jeb (unfortunately he likely estimated wrong as the obstacles are many)

And I pretty sure Bill was the first to talk a wall. This is a very old bipartisan idea - it's why it's actually already on the books....the democrats changed when they realized Latino are huge support base 8/10...legalization would mean millions of New Democratic voters...
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Your convoluted interpretation is really confusing. Wouldn't it be easier to accept the facts for what they are?

Rich boy thinks third party could flourish if not for the racist (whom he secretly admires.) Rich boy exits. Rich boy waits until he thinks the public is ready for the solutions he backed when he exited the Reform Party. He introduces them. The racists, not smart enough to know the term covert support, come out and publicly support the Rich boy.

Now, the Rich boy has to lie and say he doesn't know the racists. Why? It was the racists plan that the Rich boy based his platform on.

No surprise that the Clintons supported the idea first. They belong to the Party, and were friends of, Robert KKK Byrd. Bill Clinton, being socialist to begin with, was drawn to such an idea.

And Ann Coulter??? Ann Coulter was only 16 when David Duke began promoting his anti-immigrant spiel. Coulter is a lawyer and if she believed in the cause so much and thought what she was selling was honest, she would be filing lawsuits, petitioning for writs and that sort of thing. For real - Coulter is an entertainer.
 
katzgar said:
It's not coming out of thin air is just coming out of thin brains
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Denial of the facts certainly does not disprove them. You can insult all you like. The truth is the truth.

A thin brain is and advantage over no brain... and an old saying applicable to those not able to handle the facts:

A man that won't use his brain might as well have been born with two butts (or similar facsimile thereof.)
 
The Resister said:
Denial of the facts certainly does not disprove them. You can insult all you like. The truth is the truth.

A thin brain is and advantage over no brain... and an old saying applicable to those not able to handle the facts:

A man that won't use his brain might as well have been born with two butts (or similar facsimile thereof.)
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you gotta be seriously devoid of reasoning power to think the wall will solve anything.
 
The Resister said:
Rich boy thinks third party could flourish if not for the racist (whom he secretly admires.) Rich boy exits. Rich boy waits until he thinks the public is ready for the solutions he backed when he exited the Reform Party. He introduces them. The racists, not smart enough to know the term covert support, come out and publicly support the Rich boy.
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They same ones that smear, call for the extermination and claim a conspiracy on his friends and family? :roll:
 
katzgar said:
you gotta be seriously devoid of reasoning power to think the wall will solve anything.
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Why are you aiming at me? My first fifty posts on this board were against the notion of a border wall.

Quite frankly, the border wall people are very unclear as to what the supposed wall is about in the first place. Give them a much better alternative that is aimed at jobs and they reject it. All they do is chant that undocumented people here is "illegal."

Give me any symptom outside of that and I can show you a better alternative that does not increase the size, power and / or scope of government.
 
Conaeolos said:
They same ones that smear, call for the extermination and claim a conspiracy on his friends and family? :roll:
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Whatever you just said is way beyond anything I ever heard. I'm not into conspiracies. I'm only into what we can prove. What I presented is factual.

There are much better, cheaper and less costly alternatives to what Trump is pushing - and maybe he is pushing the most extreme viewpoint in order to negotiate and get to the solutions that will yield results without the controversy, cost, and loss of our Rights.
 
The Resister said:
Given the left's victory on the statue and memorials issue, don't you think Trump's border wall is about to become history?

Wouldn't the left now seize on those border wall efforts to accuse Trump of pandering to racists?
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Those who kiss the asses of illegals, globalist and open border scum will block the wall regardless if they accuse Trump or pandering to racists or not.

Once the MSM links all the nazi organizations to the past support of the border wall and making a racist referendum, does anyone here think Trump is about to abandon the border wall fight?
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Border wall is just a ploy to get suckers to vote for him and nothing more. The odds of a concrete and metal wall that is actually effective getting built is about the same odds of anyone on DP winning powerball lottery by him or her self. Sure there might be some republicans who vote for, but it will never get enough votes. ANd should it get enough votes, lands on his desk and he signs the bill into law. The next president who licks the testicles of illegals will remove funding for the wal lor delay it until its forgotten and doesn't get built. Or it will be built in such as way that its totally easy for someone to climb over like this one https://www.theguardian.com/world/v...o-border-fence-video-suspected-drug-smugglers.
 
jamesrage said:
Those who kiss the asses of illegals, globalist and open border scum will block the wall regardless if they accuse Trump or pandering to racists or not.



Border wall is just a ploy to get suckers to vote for him and nothing more. The odds of a concrete and metal wall that is actually effective getting built is about the same odds of anyone on DP winning powerball lottery by him or her self. Sure there might be some republicans who vote for, but it will never get enough votes. ANd should it get enough votes, lands on his desk and he signs the bill into law. The next president who licks the testicles of illegals will remove funding for the wal lor delay it until its forgotten and doesn't get built. Or it will be built in such as way that its totally easy for someone to climb over like this one https://www.theguardian.com/world/v...o-border-fence-video-suspected-drug-smugglers.
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It should be noted here that globalists are the ones most in favor of a militarized border.

You could very well be right about the fact a border wall is unlikely. That does not mean you should not consider alternatives to the wall that could mitigate and even eliminate most of the pretexts that have been used to try and justify the militarization of our border.
 
The Resister said:
Why are you aiming at me? My first fifty posts on this board were against the notion of a border wall.

Quite frankly, the border wall people are very unclear as to what the supposed wall is about in the first place. Give them a much better alternative that is aimed at jobs and they reject it. All they do is chant that undocumented people here is "illegal."

Give me any symptom outside of that and I can show you a better alternative that does not increase the size, power and / or scope of government.
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not aimed at you. no one hires illegals, there would be no illegals
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Trump may want a border wall, Trump may want to insure "everybody", Trump may want more infrastructure spending and Trump may even want to step up interior immigration law enforcement, but all of that new spending costs money and yet the biggest Trump "budget" priority is said to be cutting federal taxes. What we have here is a failure to make sense.
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He can do like Obama, pull out the credit card from China to pay for the wall, nobody cared that Obable doubled the debt so why are you worried about the cost now,


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katzgar said:
not aimed at you. no one hires illegals, there would be no illegals
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Live and let live. I'm in favor of allowing employers to hire whomever they want. It's their business. What you should focus on is how to incentivize employers to hire Americans without threatening them over WHO they hire.
 
The Resister said:
Live and let live. I'm in favor of allowing employers to hire whomever they want. It's their business. What you should focus on is how to incentivize employers to hire Americans without threatening them over WHO they hire.
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Illegal shouldn't be getting jobs in the US
 
That lying orange slob still hasn't built it. It's the same thing as the so-called announced plan against ISIS that will be made within 30 days.

Crap.
 
jamesrage said:
Border wall is just a ploy to get suckers to vote for him and nothing more.
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That says it all right there. It's all we really need to know about the border wall.

Won't work. Won't be built. Mexico won't pay for it. All it does is stir up Trump's base.
 
Trump's presidency has two victory conditions:

  1. Build the wall.
  2. Don't start any wars.
All other objectives are strictly optional, but those two are mandatory.
 
APB212 said:
Trump's presidency has two victory conditions:

  1. Build the wall.
  2. Don't start any wars.
All other objectives are strictly optional, but those two are mandatory.
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I'll settle for #2.
 
APB212 said:
So you're happy for all the lowlifes in Mexico to invade your country?
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No, it means I didn't fall for the "we need a wall" fraud, and don't support big government boondoggles.
 
Dittohead not! said:
No, it means I didn't fall for the "we need a wall" fraud, and don't support big government boondoggles.
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It worked for China. Kept the Mongols out for over three-thousand years.
 
APB212 said:
That doesn't make sense. Perhaps you could rephrase?
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The Mongols were horsemen. They couldn't ride their horses across the Great Wall of China. The Mexicans are more into cars, airplanes, and boats, as well as tunnels and ladders. The Great Wall of Trump might not be quite as effective.
 
APB212 said:
That doesn't make sense. Perhaps you could rephrase?
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No ediface of such length is impregnable. People are imaginative and industrious. They'll go over it, under it, around it, and through it.
 
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