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President Clinton on Immigration - 1995 State of the Union

joG said:
He's more eloquent than Trump; uses more and biglier words.
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The big difference is the bipartisan support he had. Unfortunately Trump does not have bipartisan support but the party of resistance. Same exact policy but major flip flop by the party of hate.
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
The big difference is the bipartisan support he had. Unfortunately Trump does not have bipartisan support but the party of resistance. Same exact policy but major flip flop by the party of hate.
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The liberals are hysterical about losing and scared that their political agenda is faltering. They haven't been able to explain to voters that it is worth going to vote for their policies. Let's hope they don't go for simpleton populism and run some ersatz Trump like BS to make up for bad politics.
 
joG said:
The liberals are hysterical about losing and scared that their political agenda is faltering. They haven't been able to explain to voters that it is worth going to vote for their policies. Let's hope they don't go for simpleton populism and run some ersatz Trump like BS to make up for bad politics.
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You realize you're asking for Liberals to actually do the foot work to get someone to join them in a completely honest display. Instead of the usual brow beating, and normal calls against racism, misogyny, and white supremacy that they always fail "and I repeat ALWAYS" to convey or prove. Without calling the listener anything short of a bigot or racist in the same breath, for some strange imagined sleight...

When I wake up that morning and put my feet on the floor, I will be surprised to find my toes a bit chillier then most other days.

Because hell will have frozen over.
 
Oborosen said:
You realize you're asking for Liberals to actually do the foot work to get someone to join them in a completely honest display. Instead of the usual brow beating, and normal calls against racism, misogyny, and white supremacy that they always fail "and I repeat ALWAYS" to convey or prove. Without calling the listener anything short of a bigot or racist in the same breath, for some strange imagined sleight...

When I wake up that morning and put my feet on the floor, I will be surprised to find my toes a bit chillier then most other days.

Because hell will have frozen over.
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1) Don't deport someone just because they have a felony unless you want to send a message as an asshole that we're tired of illegal immigration and terrorism. Let the Judges decide who should be deported.

2) People came here looking for a better life free from oppression and violence like our ancestors. What right do we have to make a law saying they cannot follow this Dream? Manifest the Mexican Constitution that forbids it to stop emigration. It would be against the Mexican Constitution for Mexico to pay for the wall which you do by placing a tariff and say, "when you pay for the wall we will drop the tariff."

3) Those non process immigrants should pay an extra 5% taxes for life and if they want to change this they can go home and make proper application. Dreamers, children brought here by immigrants should pay 3% extra taxes. With all these dreamers and immigrants going home like this we will flood those Countries with Light and they can work toward this goal.

4) Put up a wall, have all the undocumented come in for documentation, have them answer a comprehensive survey including about gang and criminal activity and ask them to indicate about how much they lied. Then in the future if you get here illegally you just report and tell them how you got here and answer their test and get your ID.
 
Exquisitor said:
1) Don't deport someone just because they have a felony unless you want to send a message as an asshole that we're tired of illegal immigration and terrorism. Let the Judges decide who should be deported.

2) People came here looking for a better life free from oppression and violence like our ancestors. What right do we have to make a law saying they cannot follow this Dream? Manifest the Mexican Constitution that forbids it to stop emigration. It would be against the Mexican Constitution for Mexico to pay for the wall which you do by placing a tariff and say, "when you pay for the wall we will drop the tariff."

3) Those non process immigrants should pay an extra 5% taxes for life and if they want to change this they can go home and make proper application. Dreamers, children brought here by immigrants should pay 3% extra taxes. With all these dreamers and immigrants going home like this we will flood those Countries with Light and they can work toward this goal.

4) Put up a wall, have all the undocumented come in for documentation, have them answer a comprehensive survey including about gang and criminal activity and ask them to indicate about how much they lied. Then in the future if you get here illegally you just report and tell them how you got here and answer their test and get your ID.
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1.We need to send to the message we are tired of illegal immigration and terrorism. Illegals who are caught should serve out a prison or jail sentence for illegal immigration and what ever other criminal offenses they a have committed before being deported. That sends the message don't come and or stay in our country uninvited.

2.This is our country is why we have a right to say who can and can't come in.

3.The idea that we got to let them stay is just pro-illegal hogwash. Illegals should be deported immediately.And for those we don't catch we should do everything we can to make it nearly impossible for someone to live in this country illegally.We do that with the following-

*.Crack down on the scum who hire illegals.Treat them no different than we do drug dealers and other criminals who profit from and or use their money for illegal activities. That means prison time, and asset forfeiture.

*. In order to get any ID or driver's license you present a birth certificate( in rare cases a non-availability birth certificate where it has been investigated that the individual was born in the US), green card, or certificate of naturalization and social security card.After that require a state issued ID or driver's license in order to the following-

-enroll yourself into school
-enroll your minor kids into school
-apply for welfare,food stamps,section 8 housing and any other tax payer assistance for yourself and or your children
-get a business license,fishing/hunting permit,building permit, license to practice law, food handlers permit, gun license(in states that require a permit to buy a gun),concealed carry permit(in states that require a license to conceal carry) or any other tax payer funded service
-open a bank account, cash a check, use a credit/debit/pre-paid card, apply for a loan,or wire money.
-rent,borrow,lease or buy property
-rent,borrow,lease or buy a motor vehicle.
-get legal documents for yourself or your children.
-get utilities
​

*. Mandate E-verify for every employer regardless if they have regular employees, use contract labor,use an employment agency or sub-contract and any means in which companies can hire people and try to not use e-verify.

*.Repeal part of the immigration and nationality act of 1965 that allows for the chain migration of relatives other than spouse or minor children.This would virtually eliminate anchor babies.Yes those born here would still be citizens, but they couldn't facilitate the chain migration of relatives other than spouse or minor children.

*.Seeing how many of these people here illegally came her on a visa and let it expire we should also cut off visas to citizens of countries we have the most illegal immigration problems with until those numbers go down.

4.Putting up a wall and having illegals answer questions is just idiotic.No illegal is going to be honest about their illegal activities or how they got into the country.
 
jamesrage said:
1.We need to send to the message we are tired of illegal immigration and terrorism. Illegals who are caught should serve out a prison or jail sentence for illegal immigration and what ever other criminal offenses they a have committed before being deported. That sends the message don't come and or stay in our country uninvited.

2.This is our country is why we have a right to say who can and can't come in.

3.The idea that we got to let them stay is just pro-illegal hogwash. Illegals should be deported immediately.And for those we don't catch we should do everything we can to make it nearly impossible for someone to live in this country illegally.We do that with the following-

*.Crack down on the scum who hire illegals.Treat them no different than we do drug dealers and other criminals who profit from and or use their money for illegal activities. That means prison time, and asset forfeiture.

*. In order to get any ID or driver's license you present a birth certificate( in rare cases a non-availability birth certificate where it has been investigated that the individual was born in the US), green card, or certificate of naturalization and social security card.After that require a state issued ID or driver's license in order to the following-

-enroll yourself into school
-enroll your minor kids into school
-apply for welfare,food stamps,section 8 housing and any other tax payer assistance for yourself and or your children
-get a business license,fishing/hunting permit,building permit, license to practice law, food handlers permit, gun license(in states that require a permit to buy a gun),concealed carry permit(in states that require a license to conceal carry) or any other tax payer funded service
-open a bank account, cash a check, use a credit/debit/pre-paid card, apply for a loan,or wire money.
-rent,borrow,lease or buy property
-rent,borrow,lease or buy a motor vehicle.
-get legal documents for yourself or your children.
-get utilities
​

*. Mandate E-verify for every employer regardless if they have regular employees, use contract labor,use an employment agency or sub-contract and any means in which companies can hire people and try to not use e-verify.

*.Repeal part of the immigration and nationality act of 1965 that allows for the chain migration of relatives other than spouse or minor children.This would virtually eliminate anchor babies.Yes those born here would still be citizens, but they couldn't facilitate the chain migration of relatives other than spouse or minor children.

*.Seeing how many of these people here illegally came her on a visa and let it expire we should also cut off visas to citizens of countries we have the most illegal immigration problems with until those numbers go down.

4.Putting up a wall and having illegals answer questions is just idiotic.No illegal is going to be honest about their illegal activities or how they got into the country.
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And this is how you solve things when you use you're brain to figure out a course of action, and not using your damn feelings all the freaking time.
 
Oborosen said:
And this is how you solve things when you use you're brain to figure out a course of action, and not using your damn feelings all the freaking time.
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Should I get a government issued microchip in my arm to simplify processing my American birthright at the checkpoints, or will being white, English speaking male suffice?
 
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