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Tough Anti-Sanctuary Bill Clears Texas Senate, Governor Eager To Sign

If a local community wants to use its resources to help that is their prerogative. They can elect mayors, council members and sheriffs who hold that position. It is the forcing part I take issue with.

Forcing them to hold a suspect until ICE can pick them up isn't hard. In fact, letting them go seems more like aiding and abetting.
 
I sincerely hope that if any of my family members are kidnapped and taken across state lines that someone who thinks like you do isn't making the decision on whether to support the feds or not.

What part of "forced" do you not understand? I still believe communities are free to use their law enforcement resources to enforce federal laws voluntarily. I can't imagine a single jurisdiction not chipping in to help on a kid napping.

Cities shouldn't be forced to help ICE catch illegal immigrants. But they can if they want.
Cities shouldn't be forced to help the DEA enforce federal anti-marijuana laws. But they can if they want.
Cities shouldn't be forced to help enforce federal magazine size restrictions. But they can if they want.
Cities shouldn't be forced to help the IRS apprehend federal income tax evaders. But they can if they want.
Cities shouldn't be forced to help the US Postal Inspector investigate mail fraud. But they can if they want.

And it goes both way. The Feds have no obligation to help local authorities enforce their speed limits, property taxes, zoning laws or any other local laws and codes.

And again. It doesn't mean I think they should be prohibited from doing so. It means I think they shouldn't be forced to do so.
 
What part of "forced" do you not understand? I still believe communities are free to use their law enforcement resources to enforce federal laws voluntarily. I can't imagine a single jurisdiction not chipping in to help on a kid napping.

Cities shouldn't be forced to help ICE catch illegal immigrants. But they can if they want.
Cities shouldn't be forced to help the DEA enforce federal anti-marijuana laws. But they can if they want.
Cities shouldn't be forced to help enforce federal magazine size restrictions. But they can if they want.
Cities shouldn't be forced to help the IRS apprehend federal income tax evaders. But they can if they want.
Cities shouldn't be forced to help the US Postal Inspector investigate mail fraud. But they can if they want.

And it goes both way. The Feds have no obligation to help local authorities enforce their speed limits, property taxes, zoning laws or any other local laws and codes.

And again. It doesn't mean I think they should be prohibited from doing so. It means I think they shouldn't be forced to do so.

I can't think of a decent person not willing to help with a federal kidnapping charge either, but pro-illegal immigration people tend to not be decent or rational. I'm sure all the violent criminals on federal warrants appreciate your support.
 
And how long does a background check take? just admit you don't care about inconveniencing brown skinned people like the fascist you are.

fascist, fascist, fascist, fascist, fascist, fascist, fascist, fascist, fascist, fascist, fascist, fascist...oh my...this is fun!
 
Ah yes the smell of fascism against brown people. I bet all the white people will be asked to "show their papers" at traffic stops.

I'm ok with checking status if you are detained for an actual crime or arrested but for traffic stops that is simply stupid.

I don't understand... Mexicans are the ones breaking the law and it is Mexican American's supporting the breaking of the law (for the most part). What is the problem with cops being able to determine the status of such a large group of lawbreakers?
 
And how long does a background check take? just admit you don't care about inconveniencing brown skinned people like the fascist you are.

We are one step away from Nazi Germany... are you scared to death or what?
 
fascist, fascist, fascist, fascist, fascist, fascist, fascist, fascist, fascist, fascist, fascist, fascist...oh my...this is fun!

No, no our part is "commie, commie, commie, commie, commie chameleon."



(80s pop jokes HARHAR)
 
No, no our part is "commie, commie, commie, commie, commie chameleon."

(80s pop jokes HARHAR)

Just doesn't have the same ring to it and it's not hip. All the kool kids are all about the antifa these days and being an antifa is a lot easier if I label everyone I don't agree with a fascist.
 
Ah yes the smell of fascism against brown people. I bet all the white people will be asked to "show their papers" at traffic stops.

Just FYI, not everybody entering the United States illegally even from south of the border is a "brown person."

And the key word here isn't "brown"; it's "illegally."
 
Just doesn't have the same ring to it and it's not hip. All the kool kids are all about the antifa these days and being an antifa is a lot easier if I label everyone I don't agree with a fascist.

I mean yeah, if you want to be in Antifa cuz all the cool kids are doing it, then yeah, commie wouldn't be a bad word to you.
 
Ah yes the smell of fascism against brown people. I bet all the white people will be asked to "show their papers" at traffic stops.

I'm ok with checking status if you are detained for an actual crime or arrested but for traffic stops that is simply stupid.

I have argued for years traffic check points are illegal. If they can pull me over for doing absolutely nothing wrong and make me show my papers they can do the same to people in violation of our laws who have committed traffic violations. Sorry but running checks on people pulled over for traffic violations is completely different than stopping someone who has not violated any laws. Once stopped for a violation of our laws the police should have every right to require identification and to run a check to see if you are wanted for other violations of the law.
 
Is it that simple? How long does it take for ICE to pick someone up? Let's say a city cop briefly detains someone for questioning because they match a description of someone who just robbed a house. During questioning the officer learns the detainee is a foreigner without a valid visa. Another squad car brings the witness by who says the detainee is not the person they saw robbing the house.

Normally the officer would let the person go on their way and get back to looking for the robber. But, potentially, under this new law the officer will have to stop searching, arrest the illegal immigrant, and then his local police department will have to house, feed and guard him until ICE shows up to take custody. Is that minutes? Hours? Days? I don't know. But it does matter.

So according to you if an officer stops someone for questioning about one crime and finds out the person is wanted for another violation of our laws he should just let them go. I don't think so. If you are in violation of our laws and a criminal that is just too bad that you got caught by accident. That is called good police work when you run a check during a traffic stop and happen to find out the person is wanted for something else.
 
So they are going to after local officials and cops, but of course not the businesses and employers in Texas that hire illegals?

Why am I not surprised.

They shouldn't have to go after local officials and cops. They should be doing their job. If not we should get rid of them and hire new people who will. As far as people hiring and harboring the lawless I hope we go after them next.
 
And how long does a background check take? just admit you don't care about inconveniencing brown skinned people like the fascist you are.

The last time a cop asked for my license and I did not have it the background check took less than a minute. I eventually found the license in my wallet but by then he already had the information.
 
dont see anything that specifies just the driver so that would mean the whole car can be checked.

You can go to jail for riding in a car while intoxicated in some states. I picked up a friend at a club at around 2:00 AM proceeded to take him home and got pulled over for DUI. After the cop determined I was sober my drunken friend was removed from the vehicle and taken to jail. I was informed that you cannot even be a passenger in a car drunk. It held up in court in Texas. So keep that in mind nest time you get drunk.
 
Just FYI, not everybody entering the United States illegally even from south of the border is a "brown person."

And the key word here isn't "brown"; it's "illegally."

For traffic stops who do you think is going to be picked for background checks a white person or brown skinned person? Be honest
 
The last time a cop asked for my license and I did not have it the background check took less than a minute. I eventually found the license in my wallet but by then he already had the information.

I forgot my license once on a stop and it took 25 min. Now that doesn't seam like a lot but imagine that happening multiple times and happening when you can't afford it. If you are brown skinned should you have to plan an extra 25 min on your daily commute because your friend in the car forgot his wallet? Should you have to ask all your passengers if they "have their papers in order"?
 
You can go to jail for riding in a car while intoxicated in some states. I picked up a friend at a club at around 2:00 AM proceeded to take him home and got pulled over for DUI. After the cop determined I was sober my drunken friend was removed from the vehicle and taken to jail. I was informed that you cannot even be a passenger in a car drunk. It held up in court in Texas. So keep that in mind nest time you get drunk.

That makes no sense, what makes you any different than a taxi in that regard? Are people required to stay drunk in a bar cause you can't drive them home? Seriously I'm curious what is the logic with that especially with designated driver ads flowing through?
 
For traffic stops who do you think is going to be picked for background checks a white person or brown skinned person? Be honest

You're completely unhinged. IN 99% of all traffic stops there is a background check to see if there's an existing warrant.
 
You can go to jail for riding in a car while intoxicated in some states. I picked up a friend at a club at around 2:00 AM proceeded to take him home and got pulled over for DUI. After the cop determined I was sober my drunken friend was removed from the vehicle and taken to jail. I was informed that you cannot even be a passenger in a car drunk. It held up in court in Texas. So keep that in mind nest time you get drunk.

:shock: Note to self: stay out of Texas
 
I forgot my license once on a stop and it took 25 min. Now that doesn't seam like a lot but imagine that happening multiple times and happening when you can't afford it. If you are brown skinned should you have to plan an extra 25 min on your daily commute because your friend in the car forgot his wallet? Should you have to ask all your passengers if they "have their papers in order"?


Don't forget your license. You can't blame your inconvenience on someone else because of your own forgetfulness. "You guys got your license?" Wow...that was hard.
 
I forgot my license once on a stop and it took 25 min. Now that doesn't seam like a lot but imagine that happening multiple times and happening when you can't afford it. If you are brown skinned should you have to plan an extra 25 min on your daily commute because your friend in the car forgot his wallet? Should you have to ask all your passengers if they "have their papers in order"?

When a cop stops someone they are stopping the driver not the passenger. A passenger is under no obligation to carry identification of any type. I doubt you've ever been pulled over once in your life since all your posts come with the tone of privileged person who's only experience with hardship is the stuff you read about in papers. Or maybe you had it lectured preached to you by a professor.
 
I forgot my license once on a stop and it took 25 min. Now that doesn't seam like a lot but imagine that happening multiple times and happening when you can't afford it. If you are brown skinned should you have to plan an extra 25 min on your daily commute because your friend in the car forgot his wallet? Should you have to ask all your passengers if they "have their papers in order"?

Why are they being pulled over and why do they not have ID? Where is this happening. I worked in Houston with a brown skinned legal citizen and he was never pulled over because he never broke any laws. It did not take 25 minutes to run a check when I was in the MP back in the late 70's. Of course that required you to give correct information. It took a lot longer when criminals attempted to deceive us.
 
That makes no sense, what makes you any different than a taxi in that regard? Are people required to stay drunk in a bar cause you can't drive them home? Seriously I'm curious what is the logic with that especially with designated driver ads flowing through?

I think the idea is you are not supposed to get drunk in public. Just an opinion. But I assure you it did happen to me. This year I went to the insurance driver safety thing for us old people to get a discount and the officer made reference to similar laws making the owner of the vehicle responsible even if someone else drives your car. I think he said if you are drunk and let someone else drive who is drunk you will get a DUI. I am not making this up. Maybe a police officer could verify and explain. Another new law is you cannot pass a stopped police car with the lights on until he waves you by. You might be surprised at all the new laws. I guess this is the reason to go to these classes.
 
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