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    Re: PragerU: why Civil War was fought

    Quote Originally Posted by Glitch View Post
    Actually, the Democrat bigots of the 1950s and 1960s used fire hoses on peaceful protesters who were abiding by the law. As is typical with Democrats, whenever you disagree with them they become criminally violent. Such was the case of those Democrat bigots using the fire hoses against law-abiding peaceful protesters.

    The Democratic Party has always been the greatest threat to the US. They are a terrorist organization, and the last time I checked we were still at war with terrorists. That should certainly include the Democratic Party.
    Once again you show the readers your near total ignorance of history. Impossible to discuss any subject with a person who believes, no thinking, that they know the TRUTH and all those Democrap, Libruls, Socialists are lying every day.

    Have fun in your self-imposed isolation from the real world.
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    Re: PragerU: why Civil War was fought

    Quote Originally Posted by Glitch View Post
    If you think only a mere 13% of Americans want to abolish the memorials to traitors that Democrats erected between 1920 and 1950, you are very much mistaken. Sen. McConnell has already taken steps to rename the 10 Army military bases named after traitors, despite the objections by Democrat bigots.
    First, this is not a D vs. R thing, it's a racist vs. non-racist thing. Second, clearly whatever white support the 13% have had until this point has been sorely inadequate. Third, there's no way in hell McConnell would've lifted a finger to cure this injustice had it not been for significant pressure from ongoing protests, so it's not like this shows McConnell to be a saint or anything. And even then the protests are only getting so much positive reaction. People were arrested the other day for trying to take down Andrew Jackson. Do you think Andrew Jackson will be moved to a museum by the authorities? Hell no. So this "lawful means of accomplishing the objective" you mentioned is unrealistic and it's not fair to invoke that position and call it good. That's like saying you too can get to the Moon, you simply need to jump high enough!

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    Re: PragerU: why Civil War was fought

    Quote Originally Posted by swing_voter View Post
    Times change. That was 70 years ago. 70 years is a human lifespan.
    Times don't change, and it was just yesterday that Democrats were being criminally violent once again.

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    Re: PragerU: why Civil War was fought

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    Once again you show the readers your near total ignorance of history. Impossible to discuss any subject with a person who believes, no thinking, that they know the TRUTH and all those Democrap, Libruls, Socialists are lying every day.

    Have fun in your self-imposed isolation from the real world.
    I not only know the history, I lived it. I watched those Greensboro, NC, lunch counter protests at Walgreens in 1960. I lived less than 25 miles from the center of the Watts-Compton Riots in 1965 when Democrats were once again being criminally violent. I watched Democrats setting off bombs in Chicago in 1968, and assassinate Martin Luther King in January 1969. I was serving in the Marine Corp while Obama's mentor Bill Ayers was killing COPs in 1972. So don't even think about telling me I don't know history. I was there.

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    Re: PragerU: why Civil War was fought

    Quote Originally Posted by Binary_Digit View Post
    First, this is not a D vs. R thing, it's a racist vs. non-racist thing.
    The Democratic Party is the party of bigots. There is no escaping that reality, as their history is riddled with examples right up to the present day.

    Quote Originally Posted by Binary_Digit View Post
    Second, clearly whatever white support the 13% have had until this point has been sorely inadequate. Third, there's no way in hell McConnell would've lifted a finger to cure this injustice had it not been for significant pressure from ongoing protests, so it's not like this shows McConnell to be a saint or anything. And even then the protests are only getting so much positive reaction. People were arrested the other day for trying to take down Andrew Jackson. Do you think Andrew Jackson will be moved to a museum by the authorities? Hell no. So this "lawful means of accomplishing the objective" you mentioned is unrealistic and it's not fair to invoke that position and call it good. That's like saying you too can get to the Moon, you simply need to jump high enough!
    Complete and utter BS. If blacks had a serious problem with memorials to traitors, why didn't they say or do something about it before June 2020? Because it wasn't an issue prior to them making it an issue in June 2020. Why didn't Obama remove the federal memorials to Confederate traitors while he was President? Because it wasn't an issue.

    Once again, there are no protests, only criminal riots. Learn the difference. Protests are always lawful and peaceful. If it is anything else, then it is a riot.

    Andrew Jackson was true scum, a mass murderer, and founder of the Democratic Party terrorist organization, but not a traitor to the US. I don't like him being on our currency or memorialized in statue form, but if others want to memorialize the bastard I have no valid objections. If they go around eliminating all the statues to the bigoted pricks then there would be no memorials to any Democrat ever.

    I draw the line at traitors. When General Benedict Arnold committed treason we renamed Fort Arnold to Fort Clinton, and there are no memorials to the man anywhere in the US. The same should apply to all Confederates, and any other traitor to the US. This isn't about bigotry, this is about treason.

    Furthermore, a Democrat-controlled Congress passed laws in 1929 and 1958 that designated all Confederate traitors as US veterans. So this very much is about the Democratic Party.

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    Re: PragerU: why Civil War was fought

    Quote Originally Posted by Glitch View Post
    The Democratic Party is the party of bigots. There is no escaping that reality, as their history is riddled with examples right up to the present day.



    Complete and utter BS. If blacks had a serious problem with memorials to traitors, why didn't they say or do something about it before June 2020? Because it wasn't an issue prior to them making it an issue in June 2020. Why didn't Obama remove the federal memorials to Confederate traitors while he was President? Because it wasn't an issue.

    Once again, there are no protests, only criminal riots. Learn the difference. Protests are always lawful and peaceful. If it is anything else, then it is a riot.

    Andrew Jackson was true scum, a mass murderer, and founder of the Democratic Party terrorist organization, but not a traitor to the US. I don't like him being on our currency or memorialized in statue form, but if others want to memorialize the bastard I have no valid objections. If they go around eliminating all the statues to the bigoted pricks then there would be no memorials to any Democrat ever.

    I draw the line at traitors. When General Benedict Arnold committed treason we renamed Fort Arnold to Fort Clinton, and there are no memorials to the man anywhere in the US. The same should apply to all Confederates, and any other traitor to the US. This isn't about bigotry, this is about treason.

    Furthermore, a Democrat-controlled Congress passed laws in 1929 and 1958 that designated all Confederate traitors as US veterans. So this very much is about the Democratic Party.
    I agree with much of that.

    When protestors damage property (or other people) they're not protestors anymore, they are rioters. So yes that's my mistake, I used the wrong word there. Still, I don't think McConnell would have renamed a single Army base had it not been for the political pressure caused by rioters taking down statues.

    Removal of Confederate monuments has been a goal for several decades, and typically becomes a larger focus after high-profile cases of apparent racism. So this recent surge in interest is not unusual, nor is it disingenuous. And as President, Obama didn't have the authority to order states to remove their statues and Confederate flags from public areas.

    I agree that if all non-Confederate racist symbols come down then we won't have many left. Slippery slopes need a logical threshold and drawing the line at traitors makes a lot of sense to me. My vote would be to replace the most egregious of the remaining with people like Dred Scott, Homer Plessy, Linda/Oliver Brown, etc. And Give the Presidential Medal of Freedom to people like Jane Elliot or Daryl Davis.

    Finally, I have no specific disagreement with your statements about Democrats of the past, but nor do I understand why they would be relevant to what I'm saying here. Regardless of who put them up decades ago, they're still up today and it's a disgrace that the people today would even need to petition the government to take them down (again), much less tear them down themselves since the government isn't listening.
    Last edited by Binary_Digit; 06-30-20 at 07:17 PM.

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