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Europeans uprising against Asiatic Marxist hordes "East German Rebellion 1953"

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Europeans uprising against Asiatic Marxist hordes "East German Rebellion 1953". this story made for a huge Hollywood film . Long live Europe down to the barbarians !!


 
Asiatic, eh?

Moscow is in Europe.

Yes, sure NATO, EU and closest USA ally

your role model said:
Window on Eurasia: Putin Says Orthodoxy ‘Closer to Islam than Catholicism Is
Window on Eurasia: Putin Says Orthodoxy ‘Closer to Islam than Catholicism Is’
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Islam and Orthodox Christianity Have the Same Values, Putin Says - The Moscow Times
 
Russians aren't Asian.

wrong, always have been why do the hate our civilization so much ? gayrope , anti NATO etc ?

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"Moscow (AsiaNews) – A recently published book has generated a lot of buzz in Russia. Titled The Great Batu Khan, founder of Russian Statehood (Великий хан Батый – основатель Российской государственности), the tome is by Gennady A. Tjundeshev (Haramos), a historian at Khakassia State University (in Asian Russia, where Tatar-Mongols hail from).

Its publication has revived the memory of the times of the "Tartar yoke", when Russia was under Asian rule for more than two centuries, between the 13th and the 15th centuries. It has also inspired some comparisons, especially with President Putin, who was re-elected on 18 March and has acquired the status of tsar and great leader.

The great Batu Khan was the grandson of Genghis Khan, who, in 1240, imposed the dominion of the so-called "Golden Horde" on the principalities of ancient Kievan Rus, which disappeared from history as a separate entity.

The Tatars were defeated for the first time in 1380 in the Battle of Kulikovo. Dmitry Donskoj, Prince of Moscow, led the way inspired by Sergius of Radonezh. Eventually, the city of Kyiv (Kiev) was against itself by the 17th century, but Asian domination ended only in 1480 thanks to the great prince Ivan III, father of the ideology of Moscow as the Third Rome. According to Tjundeshev’s interpretation, Russia has never freed itself from the legacy of the Tatar Khans; instead, it has made it the basis of its civilisation and state organisation.

The idea is not particularly new. Napoleon, contemplating Moscow burning in 1812 from the walls of the Kremlin, uttered his famous words: “Scratch a Russian, you find a Tatar”. Many historians recognise the importance of the rule of the Golden Horde in the development of Russian society. The word money, dénʹgi (деньги), comes from Mongolian and survives in the memory of the taxes that Russians had to pay to the Khans to obtain formal diplomas, Jarliq (ярлык), which today means label, price tag, in modern Russian. Thus, today’s Russia is more the offspring of the Golden Horde than Kievan Rus. Tsar Ivan the Terrible, who conquered the last Kazan khanate in the 1500s, incorporated the main Mongolian leaders into the Russian administration. The tsar of "Holy Russia", to whom many today compare the reigning president (Ivan IV and Putin IV), dropped out of government for a whole year, putting one of his Mongol khans, Simeon Bekbulatovich, in his place.

On 19 April, in an interview with Radio Svoboda, Tjundeshev reiterated his thesis. "The Golden Horde introduced the imperial spirit to Russia, and Batu Khan was the true founder of Russian statehood [. . .]. The mindset of Russians is mainly Asian. Even if the population is of European stock, only a small minority think within European parameters. This is why,” says the Tatar scholar, “it is so difficult for Russians to learn to be free; they always need a strong hand to rule them.”

“In the Russian Duma everyone always votes as the president wants, like in the Kurultáj of Genghis Khan. The founder of the Mongol Empire at the beginning of the 13th century was in reality a very advanced man for his time, able to adapt to different situations and different cultures, including religions. From the Tatars come nations such as China, India, Turkey and Russia, which embrace different faiths like Confucianism, Islam and Orthodox Christianity.”" Putin heir to the Mongol Grand Khans
 
wrong, always have been why do the hate our civilization so much ?

"Asian Russians hating European civilization" was like the bread and butter of Nazi racial policy against Slavs. The fact that you are repeating it here says a lot.
 
Islam =/= Asiatic.
"According to scholar Tjundeshev, Batu Khan was the true founder of Russian statehood. China, India and Turkey also descend from the Tatars. For him, “it is so difficult for Russians to learn to be free; they always need a strong hand to rule them." Russia’s isolationism is also Tatar in nature. Foreigners are seen as enemies. Telegram, the instant messaging service, has been blocked."
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"Asian Russians hating European civilization" was like the bread and butter of Nazi racial policy against Slavs....

you have to know already Muscovites have had nothing to do with the slaves , Language - Bible form of old Bulgarian , geographical names - Finnish , religion from Mongols too (ex Nestoian sect, thats why Estern Rome recognized Muscovite OC only at the end of 16c ., for huge bribe ) without Mongol tsars Moscow even today ´d speak Moksha language (maybe not that bad choice)
Mokshas - Wikipedia
 
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So as me in the wife were sitting there in Marx & Engels Park on a park bench when we visited Berlin last summer. We had our own Asiatic Marxist horde almost overtake us.

Chinese tourists were falling over themselves by the dozen to get in a picture with these two.

It was a funny sight to say the least. Maybe that’s what the fuss is all about.
 
"Asian Russians hating European civilization" was like the bread and butter of Nazi racial policy against Slavs. The fact that you are repeating it here says a lot.

i think Nazis wore the trousers too, are you ready to reject the trousers because of such connection ? i don't care about Nazis they have gone in history books in 1945 , meanwhile neo - stalinism is still in political mainstream in primitive "countries" like Muscovy . and this is real problem for our civilization and the world Stalin’s Approval Rating Among Russians Hits Record High – Poll - The Moscow Times

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i think Nazis wore the trousers too, are you ready to reject the trousers because of such connection ? i don't care about Nazis they have gone in history books in 1945

We still have Nazis today.
 
you have to know already Muscovites have had nothing to do with the slaves , Language - Bible form of old Bulgarian , geographical names - Finnish , religion from Mongols too (ex Nestoian sect, thats why Estern Rome recognized Muscovite OC only at the end of 16c ., for huge bribe ) without Mongol tsars Moscow even today ´d speak Moksha language (maybe not that bad choice)
Mokshas - Wikipedia

Wow... All that non history in one post....
 
you have to know already Muscovites have had nothing to do with the slaves , Language - Bible form of old Bulgarian , geographical names - Finnish , religion from Mongols too (ex Nestoian sect, thats why Estern Rome recognized Muscovite OC only at the end of 16c ., for huge bribe ) without Mongol tsars Moscow even today ´d speak Moksha language (maybe not that bad choice)
Mokshas - Wikipedia

Russian is an East Slavic language of the wider Indo-European family. It is a descendant of the language used in Kievan Rus', a loose conglomerate of East Slavic tribes from the late 9th to the mid 13th centuries. From the point of view of spoken language, its closest relatives are Ukrainian, Belarusian, and Rusyn,[30] the other three languages in the East Slavic branch. In many places in eastern and southern Ukraine and throughout Belarus, these languages are spoken interchangeably, and in certain areas traditional bilingualism resulted in language mixtures such as Surzhyk in eastern Ukraine and Trasianka in Belarus. An East Slavic Old Novgorod dialect, although it vanished during the 15th or 16th century, is sometimes considered to have played a significant role in the formation of modern Russian. Also Russian has notable lexical similarities with Bulgarian due to a common Church Slavonic influence on both languages, as well as because of later interaction in the 19th and 20th centuries, Bulgarian grammar differs markedly from Russian.[31] In the 19th century (in Russia until 1917), the language was often called "Great Russian" to distinguish it from Belarusian, then called "White Russian" and Ukrainian, then called "Little Russian".

Russian language - Wikipedia
 
"According to scholar Tjundeshev, Batu Khan was the true founder of Russian statehood. China, India and Turkey also descend from the Tatars. For him, “it is so difficult for Russians to learn to be free; they always need a strong hand to rule them." Russia’s isolationism is also Tatar in nature. Foreigners are seen as enemies. Telegram, the instant messaging service, has been blocked."
Putin heir to the Mongol Grand Khans
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Tjundeshev

One man.

One man even mocked in the article you refer to...
 
wrong, always have been why do the hate our civilization so much ? gayrope , anti NATO etc ?

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"Moscow (AsiaNews) – A recently published book has generated a lot of buzz in Russia. Titled The Great Batu Khan, founder of Russian Statehood (Великий хан Батый – основатель Российской государственности), the tome is by Gennady A. Tjundeshev (Haramos), a historian at Khakassia State University (in Asian Russia, where Tatar-Mongols hail from).

Its publication has revived the memory of the times of the "Tartar yoke", when Russia was under Asian rule for more than two centuries, between the 13th and the 15th centuries. It has also inspired some comparisons, especially with President Putin, who was re-elected on 18 March and has acquired the status of tsar and great leader.

The great Batu Khan was the grandson of Genghis Khan, who, in 1240, imposed the dominion of the so-called "Golden Horde" on the principalities of ancient Kievan Rus, which disappeared from history as a separate entity.

The Tatars were defeated for the first time in 1380 in the Battle of Kulikovo. Dmitry Donskoj, Prince of Moscow, led the way inspired by Sergius of Radonezh. Eventually, the city of Kyiv (Kiev) was against itself by the 17th century, but Asian domination ended only in 1480 thanks to the great prince Ivan III, father of the ideology of Moscow as the Third Rome. According to Tjundeshev’s interpretation, Russia has never freed itself from the legacy of the Tatar Khans; instead, it has made it the basis of its civilisation and state organisation.

The idea is not particularly new. Napoleon, contemplating Moscow burning in 1812 from the walls of the Kremlin, uttered his famous words: “Scratch a Russian, you find a Tatar”. Many historians recognise the importance of the rule of the Golden Horde in the development of Russian society. The word money, dénʹgi (деньги), comes from Mongolian and survives in the memory of the taxes that Russians had to pay to the Khans to obtain formal diplomas, Jarliq (ярлык), which today means label, price tag, in modern Russian. Thus, today’s Russia is more the offspring of the Golden Horde than Kievan Rus. Tsar Ivan the Terrible, who conquered the last Kazan khanate in the 1500s, incorporated the main Mongolian leaders into the Russian administration. The tsar of "Holy Russia", to whom many today compare the reigning president (Ivan IV and Putin IV), dropped out of government for a whole year, putting one of his Mongol khans, Simeon Bekbulatovich, in his place.

On 19 April, in an interview with Radio Svoboda, Tjundeshev reiterated his thesis. "The Golden Horde introduced the imperial spirit to Russia, and Batu Khan was the true founder of Russian statehood [. . .]. The mindset of Russians is mainly Asian. Even if the population is of European stock, only a small minority think within European parameters. This is why,” says the Tatar scholar, “it is so difficult for Russians to learn to be free; they always need a strong hand to rule them.”

“In the Russian Duma everyone always votes as the president wants, like in the Kurultáj of Genghis Khan. The founder of the Mongol Empire at the beginning of the 13th century was in reality a very advanced man for his time, able to adapt to different situations and different cultures, including religions. From the Tatars come nations such as China, India, Turkey and Russia, which embrace different faiths like Confucianism, Islam and Orthodox Christianity.”" Putin heir to the Mongol Grand Khans

It's true that many East Russians are Asiatic, but Russia has historically been considered European.
 
It's true that many East Russians are Asiatic, but Russia has historically been considered European.

you talk about Muscovite German elites in 19c, who spoke French sometimes German even at home .
 
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It's true that many East Russians are Asiatic, but Russia has historically been considered European.

you talk about Muscovite German elites in 19c, who spoke French sometimes German even at home .
 
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So as me in the wife were sitting there in Marx & Engels Park on a park bench when we visited Berlin last summer. We had our own Asiatic Marxist horde almost overtake us.

Chinese tourists were falling over themselves by the dozen to get in a picture with these two.

It was a funny sight to say the least. Maybe that’s what the fuss is all about.

do crazy hans and Muscovite stalinist - Marxist tourists touch Engels bolls ? kind of Marxist - Muscovite style A good luck charm ?

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do crazy hans and Muscovite stalinist - Marxist tourists touch Engels bolls ? kind of Marxist - Muscovite style A good luck charm ?

:lol:

Apparently so...

*now that you got me thinking back I think there was one excitable Sino who did grab his package...:lamo
 
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