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What do you see on this picture from Muscovite empires (uluses)?

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What do you see on this picture from Muscovite empires (uluses)?

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The Soviets closed all the churches. Communists were atheists.

Stalin reopened the churches during WWII.

After WWII he closed them again.


During the Cold War, one of the reasons America would defeat the Soviets is that the Soviets were anti-religious. The religious in the countries the Americans and Soviets struggled over would always side with the Americans.
 
swing_voter said:
The Soviets closed all the churches. Communists were atheists.

Stalin reopened the churches during WWII.

After WWII he closed them again.


During the Cold War, one of the reasons America would defeat the Soviets is that the Soviets were anti-religious. The religious in the countries the Americans and Soviets struggled over would always side with the Americans.
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its a well know fact , whats about the swastika on the priest forehead ? we have one professional full-time Stalinist who attaches the swastika to anything critical toward his role model Koba Dzhugashvili and his Marxisms
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Stalin reopened the churches during WWII.
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no, Hitler opened most of them , Koba in 1944 create the own NKVD - "RPC" church which is still around and support stalinism
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Litwin said:
its a well know fact , whats about the swastika on the priest forehead ? we have one professional full-time Stalinist who attaches the swastika to anything critical toward his role model Koba Dzhugashvili and his Marxisms
edition.
no, Hitler opened most of them , Koba in 1944 create the own NKVD - "RPC" church which is still around and support stalinism
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[B]Joseph Stalin revived the Russian Orthodox Church to intensify patriotic support for the war effort and presented Russia as a defender of Christian civilization, because he saw the church had an ability to arouse the people in a way that the party could not and because he wanted western help.[7] On September 4, 1943, Metropolitans Sergius (Stragorodsky), Alexius (Simansky) and Nicholas (Yarushevich) were officially received by Soviet leader Joseph Stalin who proposed to create the Moscow Patriarchate. They received permission to convene a council on September 8, 1943, that elected Sergius Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia.[83] The church had a public presence once again and passed measures reaffirming their hierarchical structure that flatly contradicted the 1929 legislation and even Lenin's 1918 decree. The official legislation was never withdrawn, however, which is suggestive that the authorities did not consider that this tolerance would become permanent.[84] This is considered by some a violation of the XXX Apostolic canon, as no church hierarch could be consecrated by secular authorities.[85] A new patriarch was elected, theological schools were opened, and thousands of churches began to function. The Moscow Theological Academy Seminary, which had been closed since 1918, was re-opened.

Many surviving clergy could return from camps or prisons, although a significant number (especially those who did not recognize Sergii's 1927 loyalty pledge) remained and were not allowed to return unless they renounced their position. Some clergy that had not recognized the 1927 pledge, such as Bishop Afanasii (Sakharov), recognized the validity of the new election and even encouraged those in the underground church to do so as well, but were not allowed to return from exile despite this.[/B]

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Fledermaus said:
Joseph Stalin revived the Russian Orthodox Church to intensify patriotic support for the war effort and presented Russia as a defender of Christian civilization, because he saw the church had an ability to arouse the people in a way that the party could not and because he wanted western help.[7] On September 4, 1943, Metropolitans Sergius (Stragorodsky), Alexius (Simansky) and Nicholas (Yarushevich) were officially received by Soviet leader Joseph Stalin who proposed to create the Moscow Patriarchate. They received permission to convene a council on September 8, 1943, that elected Sergius Patriarch of Moscow and All Russia.[83] The church had a public presence once again and passed measures reaffirming their hierarchical structure that flatly contradicted the 1929 legislation and even Lenin's 1918 decree. The official legislation was never withdrawn, however, which is suggestive that the authorities did not consider that this tolerance would become permanent.[84] This is considered by some a violation of the XXX Apostolic canon, as no church hierarch could be consecrated by secular authorities.[85] A new patriarch was elected, theological schools were opened, and thousands of churches began to function. The Moscow Theological Academy Seminary, which had been closed since 1918, was re-opened.

Many surviving clergy could return from camps or prisons, although a significant number (especially those who did not recognize Sergii's 1927 loyalty pledge) remained and were not allowed to return unless they renounced their position. Some clergy that had not recognized the 1927 pledge, such as Bishop Afanasii (Sakharov), recognized the validity of the new election and even encouraged those in the underground church to do so as well, but were not allowed to return from exile despite this.

- Wikipedia
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so whats about the swastika ? any ideas , Why ?

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Fledermaus said:
Please read post #6.

Or look stupid.

Your choice.

The NKVD has nothing to do with the churches.
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"The "Russian" Orthodox Church does not have Tomos, it was created by Stalin in 1943
On the night of September 4-5, 1943, three church hierarchs (of the four remaining at large) were unexpectedly summoned to the Kremlin to meet with Stalin and Molotov: Metropolitan Sergius, Alexy, and Nikolai.
Stalin patronizingly asked them what problems the ROC had and what help was needed. The hierarchs humiliatedly prayed for permission to convene a Council for the election of the patriarch.
Stalin ordered this to be done "at a Bolshevik pace", without delay (in order to spend not a month on the preparation of the Council, as the metropolitans had expected, but 3 days).
In addition, Metropolitan Sergius complained to the leader that the Russian Orthodox Church had almost no priests left.
Stalin, with his characteristic irony, inquired: “Why don't you have personnel? Where did they go?"
Sergius diplomatically and flatteringly replied: “We have no personnel for various reasons. For example, we are preparing a priest, and he becomes the Marshal of the Soviet Union ”(alluding to the seminary past of the“ father of the peoples ”himself).
This subtle flattery appealed to Stalin.
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Metropolitans also asked for permission to open courses for the preparation of priests and publish a church calendar with liturgical texts. Stalin's generosity exceeded all their expectations: he allowed much more - to resume the issue of the Journal of the Moscow Patriarchate and open theological academies and seminaries!
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ps why is the swastika ?
 
Litwin said:
with pictures of documents :
"The "Russian" Orthodox Church does not have Tomos, it was created by Stalin in 1943
On the night of September 4-5, 1943, three church hierarchs (of the four remaining at large) were unexpectedly summoned to the Kremlin to meet with Stalin and Molotov: Metropolitan Sergius, Alexy, and Nikolai.
Stalin patronizingly asked them what problems the ROC had and what help was needed. The hierarchs humiliatedly prayed for permission to convene a Council for the election of the patriarch.
Stalin ordered this to be done "at a Bolshevik pace", without delay (in order to spend not a month on the preparation of the Council, as the metropolitans had expected, but 3 days).
In addition, Metropolitan Sergius complained to the leader that the Russian Orthodox Church had almost no priests left.
Stalin, with his characteristic irony, inquired: “Why don't you have personnel? Where did they go?"
Sergius diplomatically and flatteringly replied: “We have no personnel for various reasons. For example, we are preparing a priest, and he becomes the Marshal of the Soviet Union ”(alluding to the seminary past of the“ father of the peoples ”himself).
This subtle flattery appealed to Stalin.
istorija-rpc-3.jpg

Metropolitans also asked for permission to open courses for the preparation of priests and publish a church calendar with liturgical texts. Stalin's generosity exceeded all their expectations: he allowed much more - to resume the issue of the Journal of the Moscow Patriarchate and open theological academies and seminaries!
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ps why is the swastika ?
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Stalin reopened the churchs.

The text you quoted even says so.

Please read post #6.

PS, already answered.
 
Litwin said:
according canonical orthodox law or according C. Marx - Lenin - Koba - NKVD- SMERSH Manifesto ? The Communist Manifesto - Wikipedia
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The churches were reopened....

It has nothing to do with "C. Marx - Lenin - Koba - NKVD- SMERSH Manifesto".

THE CHURCHES REOPENED.

Why cant you understand simple concepts?
 
Fledermaus said:
THE CHURCHES REOPENED.
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according canonical orthodox law ? if not, "ROC" is on the same level with Muscovite castrates sect
"The Skoptsy (Russian: скопцы; singular скопец "castrate"; also transliterated as Skoptzy, Skoptzi, Skoptsi, Skopzi, Scoptsy, etc.) were a sect, within the larger Spiritual Christianity movement in the Russian Empire, best known for practicing castration of men and the mastectomy of women in accordance with their teachings against sexual lust.[1] The term is a descriptive one used by the official Russian Orthodox Church.

The movement emerged in the late 18th century. It reached the peak of its popularity in the early 20th century, with as many as 100,000 members, in spite of persecution by the imperial government. Despite severe repression under the Soviet Union, small groups persevered into the 21st century. "
Skoptsy - Wikipedia
 
Fledermaus said:
THE CHURCHES REOPENED.
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according canonical orthodox law ? if not, "ROC" is on the same level with Muscovite castrates sect
"The Skoptsy (Russian: скопцы; singular скопец "castrate"; also transliterated as Skoptzy, Skoptzi, Skoptsi, Skopzi, Scoptsy, etc.) were a sect, within the larger Spiritual Christianity movement in the Russian Empire, best known for practicing castration of men and the mastectomy of women in accordance with their teachings against sexual lust.[1] The term is a descriptive one used by the official Russian Orthodox Church.

The movement emerged in the late 18th century. It reached the peak of its popularity in the early 20th century, with as many as 100,000 members, in spite of persecution by the imperial government. Despite severe repression under the Soviet Union, small groups persevered into the 21st century. "
Skoptsy - Wikipedia
 
Litwin said:
according canonical orthodox law ? if not, "ROC" is on the same level with Muscovite castrates sect
"The Skoptsy (Russian: скопцы; singular скопец "castrate"; also transliterated as Skoptzy, Skoptzi, Skoptsi, Skopzi, Scoptsy, etc.) were a sect, within the larger Spiritual Christianity movement in the Russian Empire, best known for practicing castration of men and the mastectomy of women in accordance with their teachings against sexual lust.[1] The term is a descriptive one used by the official Russian Orthodox Church.

The movement emerged in the late 18th century. It reached the peak of its popularity in the early 20th century, with as many as 100,000 members, in spite of persecution by the imperial government. Despite severe repression under the Soviet Union, small groups persevered into the 21st century. "
Skoptsy - Wikipedia
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That post makes absolutely no sense.

The FACT is that the churches were reopened under Stalin.

You can't deal with the truth.
 
Fledermaus said:
That post makes absolutely no sense.

The FACT is that the churches were reopened under Stalin.

You can't deal with the truth.
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did you buy your house and marred your wife according the laws of USA? just yes or no?
 
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