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SS Charlemagne last stand is the real story of "Panfilovs 28 Men " not like one written by stalinis

Re: SS Charlemagne last stand is the real story of "Panfilovs 28 Men " not like one written by stali

Other than the fact that Roosevelt should have allowed Patton to march right into Moscow after Berlin fell, the outcome of WW2 was pretty ****ing good. No?

Starting the Third World War when people weren’t even done rebuilding from the Second was a dumb idea.
 
Re: SS Charlemagne last stand is the real story of "Panfilovs 28 Men " not like one written by stali

Starting the Third World War when people weren’t even done rebuilding from the Second was a dumb idea.

That's why they should have done it before ending the second one.
 
Re: SS Charlemagne last stand is the real story of "Panfilovs 28 Men " not like one written by stali

do you mean its ok for afro - asia? with names on it? give couple examples outside of afro -asian region, with fake the names and worshiping

I don't even understand what you're saying.
 
Re: SS Charlemagne last stand is the real story of "Panfilovs 28 Men " not like one written by stali

That's why they should have done it before ending the second one.

No one would have accepted it.
 
Re: SS Charlemagne last stand is the real story of "Panfilovs 28 Men " not like one written by stali

No one would have accepted it.

Callous thought, but here goes. We had the bomb.
 
Re: SS Charlemagne last stand is the real story of "Panfilovs 28 Men " not like one written by stali

Callous thought, but here goes. We had the bomb.

Which wouldn't be ready until July. The Soviets also knew about it.
 
Re: SS Charlemagne last stand is the real story of "Panfilovs 28 Men " not like one written by stali

That's why they should have done it before ending the second one.

Ah yes, let Hitler off the hook in order to start a war with the Soviet Union...,.because that’s what that would have amounted to.

Anyone suggesting it would have been laughed out of the room.
 
Re: SS Charlemagne last stand is the real story of "Panfilovs 28 Men " not like one written by stali

Ah yes, let Hitler off the hook in order to start a war with the Soviet Union...,.because that’s what that would have amounted to.

Anyone suggesting it would have been laughed out of the room.

Uh, Hitler was already dead, bro. He died in April 45. The war ended in August. Germany surrendered in May and was fully occupied by June.

Pay attention.
 
Re: SS Charlemagne last stand is the real story of "Panfilovs 28 Men " not like one written by stali

Uh, Hitler was already dead, bro. He died in April 45. The war ended in August. Germany surrendered in May and was fully occupied by June.

Pay attention.

You said “before ending the second one”.

Which implies launching an attack on the USSR before the Axis is crushed.

If anything, that other premise is even sillier, because you are letting Japan— you know, the folks responsible for Pearl Harbor— off the hook to fight a country which was an ally for the past couple years.
 
Re: SS Charlemagne last stand is the real story of "Panfilovs 28 Men " not like one written by stali

You said “before ending the second one”.

Which implies launching an attack on the USSR before the Axis is crushed.

If anything, that other premise is even sillier, because you are letting Japan— you know, the folks responsible for Pearl Harbor— off the hook to fight a country which was an ally for the past couple years.

Yes, if the war ended Aug 6, we should have kept it going by attacking Russia on Aug 7, ergo before ending the second one.
 
Re: SS Charlemagne last stand is the real story of "Panfilovs 28 Men " not like one written by stali

Other than the fact that Roosevelt should have allowed Patton to march right into Moscow after Berlin fell, the outcome of WW2 was pretty ****ing good. No?
not only Patton had such plans
this great plan ´d make our much better
Operation Unthinkable was the name given to two related but unrealised plans by the Western Allies against the Soviet Union. The creation of these plans was ordered by British prime minister Winston Churchill in 1945 and developed by the British Armed Forces' Joint Planning Staff at the end of World War II in Europe.

The first of the two assumed a surprise attack on the Soviet forces stationed in Germany in order to "impose the will of the Western Allies" on the Soviets. "The will" was qualified as "a square deal for Poland"[1] – which probably meant enforcing the recently signed Yalta Agreement.[citation needed] When the odds were judged "fanciful", the original plan was abandoned. The code name was used instead for a defensive scenario, in which the British were to defend against a Soviet drive towards the North Sea and the Atlantic following the withdrawal of the American forces from the continent.

The study became the first Cold War-era contingency plan for war with the Soviet Union.[2] Both plans were highly secret at the time of their creation and it was not until 1998 that they were made public,[3] although a British spy for the Soviets, Guy Burgess, had passed on some details at the time.[citation needed]
Operation Unthinkable - Wikipedia
 
Re: SS Charlemagne last stand is the real story of "Panfilovs 28 Men " not like one written by stali

not only Patton had such plans
this great plan ´d make our much better

Operation Unthinkable - Wikipedia

It’s literally called “Operation Unthinkable”. The Soviets knew all about the plan, so there would have been no element of surprise. It would have been a great way to get a lot of guys killed for nothing....and that’s why it got scuttled so quickly.
 
Re: SS Charlemagne last stand is the real story of "Panfilovs 28 Men " not like one written by stali

Why lie?

You have demonized rural RUSSIANS ...
Why lie?
vatniks ? yes i hate their views, are they the worst imperialist out there?
atnik or vatnyk Russian: ватник is a political slur[1][2] in Belarusian, Latvian[3], Lithuanian, Russian and Ukrainian languages based on an internet meme that was introduced in 2011 by Anton Chadskiy, which denotes someone who slavishly follows Kremlin propaganda and espouses jingoism.[4]

The use of the word originates in the internet meme, first spread by Chadskiy on VKontakte, and used in Russia, Ukraine and other former Soviet states. Its meaning refers to the original cartoon, which depicts a character made from the material of a padded cotton wool jacket, and bearing a black eye, and is used to disparage someone as a blindly patriotic and unintelligent jingoist, who pushes the conventional views presented in Russian government media, as well as those views expressed by Russian web brigades.[5][6] "Put simply, the vatnik is representative of a certain archetypical Russian who slavishly supports the regime out of fear, hatred of others, or most often a combination of both."[7] The name "Vatnik" derives from the cotton wool jacket that Chadskiy's cartoon character in the meme is made from.

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Re: SS Charlemagne last stand is the real story of "Panfilovs 28 Men " not like one written by stali

Yes, if the war ended Aug 6, we should have kept it going by attacking Russia on Aug 7, ergo before ending the second one.

Again, letting the guys who bombed Pearl Harbor off the hook to attack a nation we’d just spent four years calling our ally would have been a total non-starter.
 
Re: SS Charlemagne last stand is the real story of "Panfilovs 28 Men " not like one written by stali


Oh look, Lithuania has its own version of Stormfront.
 
Re: SS Charlemagne last stand is the real story of "Panfilovs 28 Men " not like one written by stali

Oh look, Lithuania has its own version of Stormfront.

where did you find a glimpse of Stormfront? i dont know even what they stay for, some kind hitler loving losers, kind small groups of stalinists ? right? grandpa relax , listen some great music

 
Re: SS Charlemagne last stand is the real story of "Panfilovs 28 Men " not like one written by stali

where did you find a glimpse of Stormfront? i dont know even what they stay for, some kind hitler loving losers, kind small groups of stalinists ? right? grandpa relax , listen some great music



Stormfront is full of folks who think the Nazis were great because, amongst other things, they fought against the “Asiatic hordes”. Your shtick fits right in.
 
Re: SS Charlemagne last stand is the real story of "Panfilovs 28 Men " not like one written by stali

Stormfront is full of folks who think the Nazis were great ....

do you see them around nowadays ? or you remember better things which took place 80 years ago ?

i see them only in Muscovy , pictures , videos

they ?
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Re: SS Charlemagne last stand is the real story of "Panfilovs 28 Men " not like one written by stali

do you see them around nowadays ? or you remember better things which took place 80 years ago ?

i see them only in Muscovy , pictures , videos

they ?
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Stalin was a communist.

Not a Nazi.

The two are entirely different.

And there’s plenty in Lithuania.

Monument for Lithuanian 'Nazi collaborator' in Chicago sparks international row | The Independent

Lithuania and Nazis: The country wants to forget its collaborationist past by accusing Jewish partisans of war crimes.

Simon Wiesenthal Center Urges Lithuanian Community: “Don’t Build Monument To Honor Nazi Collaborator”

But you lot are too busy trying to go after those who fought the Nazis.
 
Re: SS Charlemagne last stand is the real story of "Panfilovs 28 Men " not like one written by stali


That might explain why the local Lithuanian restaurant has mostly German food.
 
Re: SS Charlemagne last stand is the real story of "Panfilovs 28 Men " not like one written by stali

do you see them around nowadays ? or you remember better things which took place 80 years ago ?

i see them only in Muscovy , pictures , videos

they ?

No, you don't.

It's RUSSIA now.
 
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