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Indians lacked a true chef

I'm not buying it....too many holes to fill in.

I don't know what the OP's story is but he sure looks fishy.
 
They needed an Iron Chef competition then
 
I wish the Native Americans had chosen a nicer person than Marshal Stalin, who had so many fellow Russians murdered in his notorious purges.
 
TheParser said:
I wish the Native Americans had chosen a nicer person than Marshal Stalin, who had so many fellow Russians murdered in his notorious purges.
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I remember a joke a Russian blogger once told me.

"The rest of the Europeans, the English, Spanish, and French are all monsters, roaming the earth and enslaving and murdered Africans and natives across the globe. Us Russians keep the killings to ourselves!"
 
Not sure what's going on here, but let's add some perspective:

It was rewarded to Stalin not so much because Indians are communists, but because Stalin scored a major victory against the Nazis. The headress and honorary title were bestowed for Stalin's military achievement, not really because they agreed with communism.

Americans, in 1941, had a favorable view of Stalin. Again, not because Americans thought that much of communism, but that he was putting up a fight against Hitler. What also happened was that foreign journalists, including Americans, when reporting on the Soviets knew the truth of Stalin and the failure of communism...but chose to write glowing stories otherwise because they could be thrown out of Russia, arrested and jailed...or disappeared. So, US citizens were tricked into a favorable opinion of Stalin. In 1941, the Socialists in the US still had political power as it was not quite seen as it is today. My point is that everyone was fooled; not just the Indians.

The group that awarded Stalin honorary chief status and the headress was the Indian Confederation of America...which represented only 27 tribes between North and Central America. The US itself had close to 570 tribes in 1941, so this really wasn't representative of ALL Indian tribes and nations.
 
Jason Warfield said:
Not sure what's going on here, but let's add some perspective:

It was rewarded to Stalin not so much because Indians are communists, but because Stalin scored a major victory against the Nazis. The headress and honorary title were bestowed for Stalin's military achievement, not really because they agreed with communism.

Americans, in 1941, had a favorable view of Stalin. Again, not because Americans thought that much of communism, but that he was putting up a fight against Hitler. What also happened was that foreign journalists, including Americans, when reporting on the Soviets knew the truth of Stalin and the failure of communism...but chose to write glowing stories otherwise because they could be thrown out of Russia, arrested and jailed...or disappeared. So, US citizens were tricked into a favorable opinion of Stalin. In 1941, the Socialists in the US still had political power as it was not quite seen as it is today. My point is that everyone was fooled; not just the Indians.

The group that awarded Stalin honorary chief status and the headress was the Indian Confederation of America...which represented only 27 tribes between North and Central America. The US itself had close to 570 tribes in 1941, so this really wasn't representative of ALL Indian tribes and nations.
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This almost sound like a story by William May. A German, who never stepped foot in the Americas, who wrote westerns and became one of Europe's most popular authors. His books translated into more than 70 languages. A favorite of Hitler's. Stalin and Churchill were also a fans. He was no Zane Grey or Louis Lamour.
 
Moot said:
I'm not buying it....too many holes to fill in.

I don't know what the OP's story is but he sure looks fishy.
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Judging by the title, Indian recipes?
 
Lovebug said:
Judging by the title, Indian recipes?
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It's a little known secret, but nobody could make squaw bread better than Stalin. lol
 
OldFatGuy said:
This almost sound like a story by William May. A German, who never stepped foot in the Americas, who wrote westerns and became one of Europe's most popular authors. His books translated into more than 70 languages. A favorite of Hitler's. Stalin and Churchill were also a fans. He was no Zane Grey or Louis Lamour.
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Why do you call him William?

His name was KARL MAY - not to be confused with KARL MARX.

Karl Friedrich May (/maɪ/ MY; German: [maɪ]; 25 February 1842 – 30 March 1912) was a German writer best known for his adventure novels set in the American Old West. His main protagonists are Winnetou and Old Shatterhand. May set similar books in the Orient and Middle East (in which the main protagonists were Kara Ben Nemsi and Hadschi Halef Omar), Latin America and Germany. May also wrote poetry, a play, and composed music; he was a proficient player of several musical instruments. Many of his works were adapted for film, stage, audio dramas and comics. Later in his career, May turned to philosophical and spiritual genres. He is one of the best-selling German writers of all time, with about 200 million copies worldwide.
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Karl May - Wikipedia
 
Rumpel said:
Why do you call him William?
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Nee William Karl Friedrich May. Authored westerns as Karl, mysteries and intrigue as Fred, torrid South Seas romance novels as Willhameina Plink (one of which became a star vehicle for Clark Gable, Mary Astor, Jean Harlow, uncredited basis for a play by ‎Wilson Collison, Red Dust). When the westerns became a success, he stuck with Karl.

A relatively recent German reprint collection of some of his novels carry his full name, and the intro explains how he initially earned the equivalent of $35 per novel, writing as many as six a month under a variety of pen names in addition to the few I mentioned. Making him a top earner in the world of dime novels.

I didn't know Karl Marx wrote westerns?
 
OldFatGuy said:
I didn't know Karl Marx wrote westerns?
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Only a few people know about this ....

There is also a joke about it that I may tell later. :)
 
Rumpel said:
Only a few people know about this ....

There is also a joke about it that I may tell later. :)
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People forget, authors were often paid by the amount of words they wrote, with novels appearing in broadsides and newspapers as serials. When readers were dissatisfied with an ending evidenced with letters to the editor, authors happily wrote a next chapter, another serial continuance, with a new ending. At times, many continuances and new endings. Thus Dickens, Dreiser and so many others. Just when you thought that damned overly verbose novel was finished, another chapter, or two or three.... :)

Dumas, pere, once said, "I can make a character live eternally." Almost all his many novels first appeared in French magazines, with illustrations. His son continued his father's legacy with many of the same characters. Between them, as fathers of the modern novel, countless works of fun and parody. Every one of their characters a skewing of the French Hoi Poloi. Among the exceptions, the masterpiece, The Count of Monte Cristo, when only the bad guys were mocking the French aristocracy, military leaders and priests. And unlike the movies, the final ending reveals the Count doesn't get back his original love, but marries the rescued beautiful daughter of a Pasha betrayed by a French mercenary who stole his riches and sold her into slavery. Tales of revenge couldn't have ended more happily for the French readers. It is her son who appears in later Count of Monte Cristo novels by Dumas, fils. Interracial heroes, like the authors, Dantes having been a true inhabitant of Marseille, descended from intermarriage with Moors.
 
Here is the joke.

A asks B: What are you reading these days?

B: "Das Kapital" - by Karl May

A: But that is not by Karl May - it is by Karl Marx.

B: Really? Come to think of it, I have already started wondering why there are so few Indians in it ....
 
Fletch said:
So we should embrace communism because.....
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You don't embrace communism, you have to create it. And for this purpose it is necessary to liquidate private property on means of production. And for this purpose it is necessary to eliminate the bourgeoisie from power. Why? Because capitalism is leading the planet to destruction. By the way, why do capitalist science fiction films and books present the future in the form of the Apocalypse and other doom and gloom?
 
Ringo Stalin said:
You don't embrace communism, you have to create it. And for this purpose it is necessary to liquidate private property on means of production. And for this purpose it is necessary to eliminate the bourgeoisie from power. Why? Because capitalism is leading the planet to destruction. By the way, why do capitalist science fiction films and books present the future in the form of the Apocalypse and other doom and gloom?
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Karl Marx was an idiot and a fanatic. How many times must you guys be shown that Marx's crap can never work given that Marx's theories are fantasy.

In case you did not know why the crap doesnt work: Its because Marx created a social economic theory that required a one party system. A one party system will always end with an authoritarian rule no matter Marx's pipe dream. Add to that that Marx was being vengeful and not actually fixing anything or even attempting to make things better. The guy was a nut.
 
FreedomFromAll said:
In case you did not know why the crap doesnt work: Its because Marx created a social economic theory that required a one party system.
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It is obvious that you are unfamiliar with Marxism. Marxism is not about how many parties will be in power. In Ancient Greece, there were many parties, but this did not prevent the state from being a state of slaveholders and slaves. First, read the basis of Marxism, the Manifesto of the Communist party
Manifesto of the Communist Party
 
FreedomFromAll said:
How many times must you guys be shown that Marx's crap can never work given that Marx's theories are fantasy.
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Who Revolts? Empirically Revisiting the Social Origins of Democracy
https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/full/10.1086/704699
"...We have discussed how opposition movements dominated by industrial workers and urban middle classes may be both motivated and able to pursue democratization. Using original data on the social groups partaking in opposition campaigns globally from 1900 to 2006, we find that movements dominated by these urban groups are linked to democratization, both when compared to movements dominated by other groups and to situations when no organized opposition movement exists. While apparent in different contexts, the relationship is stronger in more recent decades and in urbanized societies. When separating between middle classes and industrial workers, we find more robust support for the democratizing role of worker movements. Overall, our results thus corroborate the accounts presented by Rueschemeyer et al. (1992) and Collier (1999)—industrial workers are key agents of democratization."

So you are saying that Marx's theories are fantasy?
 
Ringo Stalin said:
It is obvious that you are unfamiliar with Marxism. Marxism is not about how many parties will be in power. In Ancient Greece, there were many parties, but this did not prevent the state from being a state of slaveholders and slaves. First, read the basis of Marxism, the Manifesto of the Communist party
Manifesto of the Communist Party
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Nope not unfamiliar at all.
 
Ringo Stalin said:
Who Revolts? Empirically Revisiting the Social Origins of Democracy
https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/full/10.1086/704699
"...We have discussed how opposition movements dominated by industrial workers and urban middle classes may be both motivated and able to pursue democratization. Using original data on the social groups partaking in opposition campaigns globally from 1900 to 2006, we find that movements dominated by these urban groups are linked to democratization, both when compared to movements dominated by other groups and to situations when no organized opposition movement exists. While apparent in different contexts, the relationship is stronger in more recent decades and in urbanized societies. When separating between middle classes and industrial workers, we find more robust support for the democratizing role of worker movements. Overall, our results thus corroborate the accounts presented by Rueschemeyer et al. (1992) and Collier (1999)—industrial workers are key agents of democratization."

So you are saying that Marx's theories are fantasy?
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Yes I am saying that Marx's theories are fantasy. The study that you linked has nothing to do with Karl Marx or hos theory.
 
Well,now we know what posts by Litwin would look like if he was a Communist and not a Nazi.
 
Oozlefinch said:
Well,now we know what posts by Litwin would look like if he was a Communist and not a Nazi.
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The OP would have to post about another eight threads a day to match the amount of “durr Russians are Asiatic hordes” threads Litwin spews.

The fact that he seriously can’t wrap his head around the idea that being a Nazi collaborator is a bad thing is rather depressing.
 
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