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    Re: Māori Council wants Pope to apologise for colonisation of New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by Litwin View Post
    British empire was greatest thing which Žd happened to a stone age man. are you against progress, and civilization , reality ?
    Am I against "progress and civilization"? When it comes at the cost of traditional native lifestyle, absolutely. 100%

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    Re: Māori Council wants Pope to apologise for colonisation of New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by Irredentist View Post
    Am I against "progress and civilization"? When it comes at the cost of traditional native lifestyle, absolutely. 100%
    what do you know about Maori people daily live before Englishmen arrival with World best tools and knowledge of human civilization ?
    Karl Marx : "The bloody mire of Mongolian slavery, not the rude glory of the Norman epoch, forms the cradle of Muscovy, and modern "Russia" is but a metamorphosis of Muscovy."

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    Re: Māori Council wants Pope to apologise for colonisation of New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by Litwin View Post
    what do you know about Maori people daily live before Englishmen arrival with World best tools and knowledge of human civilization ?
    Nothing. Let the Maori do whatever they do. I don't care.

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    Re: Māori Council wants Pope to apologise for colonisation of New Zealand

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    Nothing. Let the Maori do whatever they do. I don't care.
    so my friend i am here to help you fill up this gap, watch this (daily live of a strong stone age man, women , children, invalids have had it way WORST ). by the way do you know that the Maoris committed many genocides of other weaker native nations in NZ ?

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    Re: Māori Council wants Pope to apologise for colonisation of New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by Litwin View Post
    so my friend i am here to help you fill up this gap, watch this (daily live of a strong stone age man, women , children, invalids have had it way WORST ). by the way do you know that the Maoris committed many genocides of other weaker native nations in NZ ?

    That's not even a video on the Maori. Again, don't care. Let the Maori live and die by their own hands.

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    Re: Māori Council wants Pope to apologise for colonisation of New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by Irredentist View Post
    That's not even a video on the Maori. Again, don't care. Let the Maori live and die by their own hands.
    do you think that warlike man-dominated stone races were much differ from each other ? you did not answer about Maori genocides of more peaceful NZ native nations , why?
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    Re: Māori Council wants Pope to apologise for colonisation of New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by Litwin View Post
    do you think that warlike man-dominated stone races were much differ from each other ? you did not answer about Maori genocides of more peaceful NZ native nations , why?
    Of course, every culture is different, even stone age ones. Different traditions, rituals, languages, different geography and food sources.

    The Maori were the first humans on New Zealand.

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    Re: Māori Council wants Pope to apologise for colonisation of New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Regarding the conquered not being innocent flowers...

    Maori cannibalism widespread but ignored, academic says | Stuff.co.nz
    People always forget that every nation, border, and people were involved in some form of colonization at some time in their existence. It is ludicrous that people want apologies today for historical realities.

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    Re: Māori Council wants Pope to apologise for colonisation of New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by Irredentist View Post
    Of course, every culture is different, even stone age ones. Different traditions, rituals, languages, different geography and food sources.

    The Maori were the first humans on New Zealand.
    1) so are suggesting that the Maori did not represent warlike man-dominated stone- age nation before arriving of Englishmen ?
    2) The Sad Story of the Moriori, Who Learned to Live at the Edge of the World - Atlas Obscura Moriori - Wikipedia and
    "According to Maori tradition, the first inhabitants of New Zealand were a ... dark-skinned, having big or protuberant bones, flat-faced and flat-nosed, with upturned nostrils. ... The writer has seen many natives showing these peculiarities among the ... This seems an important point, until one remembers that any isolated folk of ..."
    Karl Marx : "The bloody mire of Mongolian slavery, not the rude glory of the Norman epoch, forms the cradle of Muscovy, and modern "Russia" is but a metamorphosis of Muscovy."

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    Re: Māori Council wants Pope to apologise for colonisation of New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by Litwin View Post
    1) so are suggesting that the Maori did not represent warlike man-dominated stone- age nation before arriving of Englishmen ?
    2) The Sad Story of the Moriori, Who Learned to Live at the Edge of the World - Atlas Obscura Moriori - Wikipedia and
    "According to Maori tradition, the first inhabitants of New Zealand were a ... dark-skinned, having big or protuberant bones, flat-faced and flat-nosed, with upturned nostrils. ... The writer has seen many natives showing these peculiarities among the ... This seems an important point, until one remembers that any isolated folk of ..."
    I'm suggesting that using a video about a culture from the other side of the world and thousands of years before is a pretty stupid way to try to understand the Maori.

    There is no archeological evidence of any settlement of New Zealand prior to the Maori.

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