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    Re: Māori Council wants Pope to apologise for colonisation of New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by AmNat View Post
    . Anyone who supports mass migration into Europe while condemning the colonization of New Zealand is a fraud and a hypocrite.
    Uh, the reverse is also true.
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    Re: Māori Council wants Pope to apologise for colonisation of New Zealand

    Colonization/conquest has been part of human history up until the recent age where most are enlightened enough to respect the territory of others. It's silly to condemn or guilt trip over European colonization when nearly all other people groups are guilty of the same thing and oftentimes with much more cruelty.
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    Re: Māori Council wants Pope to apologise for colonisation of New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Colonization/conquest has been part of human history up until the recent age where most are enlightened enough to respect the territory of others. It's silly to condemn or guilt trip over European colonization when nearly all other people groups are guilty of the same thing and oftentimes with much more cruelty.
    So la Reconquista is perfectly acceptable.
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    Re: Māori Council wants Pope to apologise for colonisation of New Zealand

    Every person should apologize to the neanderthals - and have to pay reparations.

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    Re: Māori Council wants Pope to apologise for colonisation of New Zealand

    Actually, the premise is a lie. Secular military and economic forces considered indigenous non-white people to be non-human animals that could be killed and even totally eradicated - and were doing so. They literally killed to extinction EVERY person on EVERY Caribbean island - no exceptions. 100% of EVERYONE on Cuba, Haiti, Pueto Rico, the Bahamas etc - 100% were killed. This was standard practice across the world...

    ... UNTIL the Pope declared non-white people are human beings with souls and therefore could not be outright murdered. But for that Pope, it is very possible that every indigenous person in all of the Americas and much of the rest of the world would also have been murdered to extinction.

    It is tragic how schools stopped teaching both history and civics decades ago. The result is probably the historically and institutionally dumbest Americans in US history - by far. That declaration by the Pope is way, way up the list on decisive moments in human history - and but for it we might be living in a world with only white people. But instead all you will ever hear is attacks against the Catholic Church, Christians and white people by atheists - when it was secular motivations for literal total genocide of entire racial and ethnic groups to literal extinction.

    Curious how no one ever calls upon the Iranians (Persians) to apologize for killing over 200,000,000 people - nearly 25% of the world's population - in their empire building, nor on the Mongols nor any other mass murderous peoples. PCism ONLY allows - but also requires - targeting ONLY white people and Christians for the past.
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    Re: Māori Council wants Pope to apologise for colonisation of New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Regarding the conquered not being innocent flowers...

    Maori cannibalism widespread but ignored, academic says | Stuff.co.nz
    Or to word it better, speaking of pakeha not understanding tribal customs that conflict with their own morality.

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    Re: Māori Council wants Pope to apologise for colonisation of New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by AmNat View Post
    The Maori have inhabited New Zealand for less time than the English have inhabited England. Anyone who supports mass migration into Europe while condemning the colonization of New Zealand is a fraud and a hypocrite.
    There is no equivilence to immigration in europe and the colonisation of first world countries.

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    Re: Māori Council wants Pope to apologise for colonisation of New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Why should the Pope apologize? What did the Pope do?
    He got elected to represent the catholic church and be their main speaker. Who do you think is more qualified the vatican janitor?

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    Re: Māori Council wants Pope to apologise for colonisation of New Zealand

    Quote Originally Posted by Grand Mal View Post
    I want an apology from the Queen for the way my Highland ancestors were treated after Culloden in 1746. Their language, their music, their style of dress, all made illegal and their lands forfeit and their social system broken up and replaced...
    Better have that apology engraved, come to think.
    And your not alone in that

    Apology sought for 'war crimes' in Culloden's aftermath - BBC News

    A state apology is being sought for the actions of Hanoverian forces following the Battle of Culloden in April 1746.

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    Re: Māori Council wants Pope to apologise for colonisation of New Zealand

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    Wow, really? And there I was thinking I was being sarcastic.
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