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    Re: What do you say is the greatest mistake the US government ever made?

    Not dismantling the entirety of Southern society after the Civil War. The South should have been restructured into a area of land owning free blacks guarded and protected by Federal troops.

    Not pushing for harder reparations on Germany after WWI. The Versaille Treaty left Germany with its core population and economy intact, it should have been stripped of both.

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    Re: What do you say is the greatest mistake the US government ever made?

    If there was ever any doubt that joko104 was a sad little troll, see post number 1.


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    Re: What do you say is the greatest mistake the US government ever made?

    The Founder's failure to ban slavery in the Constitution.

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    Re: What do you say is the greatest mistake the US government ever made?

    Quote Originally Posted by yankintx View Post
    The Un Constitutional incarceration of Americans in WWII,there crime, being of Japanese descent. A terrible black mark on FDR's legacy. I am a great admirer of FDR, but the Japanese internment camps were a terrible crime.
    Is that also true of the Italian internment camps?

    The only difference, there were too many Italian Americans to intern them all, and many enlisted the day after Pearl Harbor. The 442 wasn't formed until 1943, with many of the enlistees from the internment camps. Tho racism and bigotry are always ugly, it seems those Japanese Americans of the 442 understood, and served with the greatest fortitude and distinction in the European theater.

    Doris Miller, the first African American to receive the Navy Cross for his actions during the attack on Pearl Harbor, said "America is my country, also." He died on an atoll fighting in the Pacific in 1943.

    Ira Hayes a Marine enlistee who was exempt from the draft was granted a Medal of Honor, died from PTSD, alcohol his weapon. Just another drunk Indian.

    Colonel Mickey Marcus, a prosecuting attorney from Brooklyn, despite having no training for it, parachuted into France during the Normandy invasion, gathering scattered troops to effectively do the job. By the end of his military career, after taking part in the Nuremberg trials and organizing the services for displaced refugees from the war and survivors of the death camps, he retired back to private practice before becoming the first Aluf, general, of the IDF. He died a victim of friendly fire. The American army had few Jewish officers.

    There are many examples of men and women who did not allow bigotry to stop them from serving their nation.
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    Re: What do you say is the greatest mistake the US government ever made?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jredbaron96 View Post
    Not dismantling the entirety of Southern society after the Civil War. The South should have been restructured into a area of land owning free blacks guarded and protected by Federal troops.

    Not pushing for harder reparations on Germany after WWI. The Versaille Treaty left Germany with its core population and economy intact, it should have been stripped of both.

    If the above is met, greater support for the Whites in the Russian Civil War, but only if we are able to remove the Monarchist elements as well, otherwise we're back where we started.
    I agree with 2/3 of your post.

    Most historians agree that the tough war reperations placed on Germany in the Versailles treaty were too harsh. Germany was hit harder than any other country by the Great Depression, even then France demanded war reparations on a struggling German economy. This caused hyperinflation, and was used by the Fascist to sway many Germans to their cause. Out of work men, with no means to support themselves or family are easily swayed. The Allies, especially France were much to harsh to the Germans.
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    Re: What do you say is the greatest mistake the US government ever made?

    Quote Originally Posted by yankintx View Post
    Most historians agree that the tough war reperations placed on Germany in the Versailles treaty were too harsh. Germany was hit harder than any other country by the Great Depression, even then France demanded war reparations on a struggling German economy. This caused hyperinflation, and was used by the Fascist to sway many Germans to their cause. Out of work men, with no means to support themselves or family are easily swayed. The Allies, especially France were much to harsh to the Germans.
    The 1871 treaty forced on France after the Franco-Prussian War was harsher than the Versaille Treaty, which ended up not being fully implemented by the Entente after the war ended. In fact by the late 20s the Wiemar Republic had already established payment plants and revisions with the Entente powers in order to pay off the reparations, it just proved fruitless after the Great Depression because Germany had been relying on American bank loans to boost their economy.

    German territorial concessions were in fact incredibly light all together - most of the Empire's holdings in the east were ethnically Polish, including the Danzig corridor, which in 1918 was predominantly Polish even counting all the German soldiers positioned there.

    Versaille was a terrible treaty because it did just enough to ignite a fury within German society - without actually doing anything to hamper Germany's core economy and population. Hence the ability for the Germans to rapidly buildup before WWII.
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    Re: What do you say is the greatest mistake the US government ever made?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Setting aside slavery issues, what do you say is the greatest mistake the US government ever made on 1.) Domestic, 2.) Foreign policy and 3.) War?

    My choices:

    Domestic: Not outlawing the Democratic party as a seditious, racist and terrorist organization at the end of the Civil War.

    Second choice: LBJ's "Great Society" tied with FDR's economic policies.

    Foreign policy: Not forming a military and economic alliance with the Russia after the breakup with the USSR.

    Second Choice: Military alliance with Germany and Japan after WW2

    War: The manner and motive of the Indian wars

    Second choice: Getting into WW1.
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    Re: What do you say is the greatest mistake the US government ever made?

    Not going to war against russia right after the second world war ended.

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    Re: What do you say is the greatest mistake the US government ever made?

    Quote Originally Posted by bongsaway View Post
    Not going to war against russia right after the second world war ended.

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    Operation Unthinkable wasn’t workable. Simply put, it would have been a bloodbath and there’s no real way to think that we would have won, even if the government somehow convinced the people that going to war with a country which was still considered an ally—right after the Pacific and German bloodbaths—was acceptable.

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