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We defeated the wrong enemy - General George S. Patton . read We d take bandit Koba down first

Churchill was correct in that instead of the Normandy invasion we should have continued up from Italy and Greece thru "the soft underbelly of Europe." This would have cut off the Soviets from Eastern Europe - denying Stalin all the power conquering them brought, honored our promises to those nations to be liberated rather than shifting from Nazi subjugation and occupation to Soviet subjugation and occupation - and probably saved a millions of lives including American lives.

There was NO morality or military purpose it fighting across all of Western Europe for the purpose of giving Eastern Europe to Stalin. The USA betrayed and screwed Poland and Eastern Europe in collusion with Stalin.

How exactly is that the soft underbelly of Europe? The ****ing Alps are in the way. Monte Cassino? There is a lot more distance to cover and much of it unfavourable terrain, when compared to landing at Normandy. And anyone who has studied World War II should be able to tell you the Allies had a habit of vastly overestimating their abilities.
 
For the record, all the Soviets would have had to do is punch through the 21st Army Group on the Northern European Plain and threaten to drive on Antwerp, which accounts for virtually the entire logistical framework for the Americans and British. The only choice the W. Allies would have had was to fall back to the Rhine and cede everything east of it to the Soviets.
 
How exactly is that the soft underbelly of Europe? The ****ing Alps are in the way. Monte Cassino? There is a lot more distance to cover and much of it unfavourable terrain, when compared to landing at Normandy.

You can tell who in this debate actually has even a little understanding of the facts of WWII.

The Allies invaded Italy way back in September 1943, almost a year prior to Normandy. And a year and a half later they were still fighting there when the war in Europe came to a close.

One only has to look at a contour relief map to see that there was nothing "soft" in the underbelly of Europe. Greece, Italy, France, it was all rough rugged terrain, and a logistical nightmare.
 
General Patton was only partly right, both cannabis ´d be hunted down, but the West ´d take koba first (as the bigger and more dangerous butcher) .


"I fear we fought the wrong enemy and i fear we will regret it"

--- General Patton when asked about Germany
 
General Patton was only partly right, both cannabis ´d be hunted down, but the West ´d take koba first (as the bigger and more dangerous butcher) .


"I fear we fought the wrong enemy and i fear we will regret it"

--- General Patton when asked about Germany

Nobody who’d took one look at Auschwitz would be in doubt that we didn’t “fight the wrong enemy”.

The West had no capability to “take” the USSR before 1945 anyway....or after it for that matter.
 
General Patton was only partly right, both cannabis ´d be hunted down, but the West ´d take koba first (as the bigger and more dangerous butcher) .


"I fear we fought the wrong enemy and i fear we will regret it"

--- General Patton when asked about Germany

Thankfully the Soviets crushed the nazi hoards
 
"Nobody who’d took one look at Auschwitz" do you know that your sovok hordes raped Jewish girls and women in Auschwitz and all other death camps. by the way why don't you mention that you commie - maskali did not close Auschwitz and many other Nazis death camps in Germany and used them longer than Nazis ?
 
"Nobody who’d took one look at Auschwitz" do you know that your sovok hordes raped Jewish girls and women in Auschwitz and all other death camps. by the way why don't you mention that you commie - maskali did not close Auschwitz and many other Nazis death camps in Germany and used them longer than Nazis ?

Again, what do you think happened to the women your heroes helped round up? Those that the collaborator scum didn’t murder out of hand, that is? And no, the Soviets did not “use Auschwitz longer than the Nazis”. Auschwitz was turned into a memorial and museum pretty much immediately after the war.

Auschwitz-Birkenau Memorial and Museum - Wikipedia

And funny how you didn’t mention who was held at Sachsenhausen

“By 1948, Sachsenhausen, now renamed Special Camp No. 1, was the largest of three special camps in the Soviet occupation zone. The 60,000 people interned over five years included 6,000 German officers transferred from Western Allied camps.[2] Others were Nazi functionaries, anti-Communists and Russians, including Nazi collaborators.”

In other words, it was used to hold Nazis....and their collaborators.

Sachsenhausen concentration camp - Wikipedia

Unlike under Nazi rule, the Soviets did not use it as death camp....and was only used as an internment camp until 1950.

So on multiple levels, you are incorrect.....as usual.
 
Stalinist you don't give a comment about Stalinist maskal hordes raped Jewish women-girls in Nazi death camps, why ?
 
Stalinist you don't give a comment about Stalinist maskal hordes raped Jewish women-girls in Nazi death camps, why ?

1) I’m not a Stalinist

2) Considering it was the exact same thing as what the collaborator scum you hold up as heroes did, your faux outrage is meaningless.
 
And, I might add, those who didn't have those feelings were fellow traveling, pinko, traitors. The Rosenberg's were only first of what should have been many executions of this scum.

Cant help but show your power level eh? The op is just being a whiny larper. My grandfather helped liberate France from nazi tyranny. Its scumbags that write nazi apologia that spit on American veterans and their sacrifice by spreading fascism in places like South America.
 
There isn't a double edge blade. From the 1930s into the 1950s (and sometimes longer) America was infested with an intelligentsia and a arts culture of communist stooges and fellow travelers to international communism, supporters of Lenin and then Stalinist methods of concentration labor camps and mass killings (as well as the genocide and ethnic cleansing of many peoples in the Soviet Empire). Moreover, as agents of the Soviets against the survival of their own countries none of them, on a moral level, deserved a hearing of more than 10 minutes on a hangman's gallows.

Naturally, liberals went into overtime defending this scum, whining about their innocence and unfair treatment - promoting anti-communism as the real threat to America. Fortunately the West survived long enough, in spite of these relentless termites efforts, to see the fall of European and Russian communism.

In any event, there are dozens (perhaps hundreds) that never received the punishment, let alone full punishment, so richly earned.

McCarthy was a proven fraud. Nice meme tho.
 
Depends on what context you're using the word "liberal". If by that you mean the leftistism of the Arts and Academia then not only were they sympathetic, many were outright apologists.

This conspiracy is recycled nazi propaganda just like cultural marxism.
 
Damn, there are a lot more useful idiots for Nazi propaganda here than I thought. Maybe they won the war after all...
 
I see the Stalin apologists wasted no time jumping into this thread.

You are by far one of the most utterly, ideologically-brainwashed cretins ****ting up this forum with your propaganda bull****.
 
I see the Stalin apologists wasted no time jumping into this thread.

yes, and its a crime in EU, but one for sure, the dirty commies are still bossing over our TV stations and university camps...
 
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We defeated the wrong enemy - General George S. Patton . read We´d take commie bandit Koba down first

i have 2 questions
1) how General George S. Patton came to this conclusion ?
2) and why USA/UK did not liberate Eastern Europe from Stalinist , totalitarian, commie, satanic occupation in 1945? even thought the West ( centralization ) had such plans

"Operation Unthinkable were two related but unrealised plans by the Western Allies against the totalitarian Soviet Union. They were ordered by British prime minister Winston Churchill in 1945 and developed by the British Armed Forces' Joint Planning ... and the perception that the Soviet leader Joseph Stalin (koba) was unreliable, there ... "

In May 1945, the Red Army had 500 divisions


That might have had something to do with it.
 
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