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President Harry Truman on Socialism

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Arguably the wisest quote every made by a president. It's no wonder he mentioned this in the age of McCarthy (1952).

Socialism is a scareword they have hurled at every advance the people have made in the last 20 years. Socialism is what they called public power. Socialism is what they called social security. Socialism is what they called farm price supports. Socialism is what they called bank deposit insurance. Socialism is what they called the growth of free and independent labor organizations. Socialism is their name for almost anything that helps all the people.
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DifferentDrummr said:
Arguably the wisest quote every made by a president. It's no wonder he mentioned this in the age of McCarthy (1952).
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My father was a WW2 vet. He held Harry S Truman in the highest regard in the line of US Presidents. Unfortunately he passed before I was aware enough to talk to him about his views.
 
I suppose that one's interpretation of Socialism would be colored by how they interpret the term "help".

For example, back before Obamacare I had lots of choices for who I could purchase health insurance from. I could purchase catastrophic coverage plans, comprehensive plans and all kinds of plans in between. Then the Democrats decided to "help" me. I lost all those options and last year I had a grand total of one provider to choose from. This year I have two providers. I can't choose a catastrophic coverage plan. I can choose not to be covered but, before Trump signed an order getting rid of them, there were financial penalties if I made that choice.

Other people may have felt helped and I have a couple of clients who actually benefited from Obamacare but I pretty much disagree with the whole idea that the program, as a whole, really qualifies as "help".
 
Rexedgar said:
My father was a WW2 vet. He held Harry S Truman in the highest regard in the line of US Presidents. Unfortunately he passed before I was aware enough to talk to him about his views.
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Truman ended the war. That made him pretty damned popular!
 
Lutherf said:
Truman ended the war. That made him pretty damned popular!
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It was kinda winding down by 12APR45; that is akin to giving Trump all the credit for the present economy......
 
Rexedgar said:
My father was a WW2 vet. He held Harry S Truman in the highest regard in the line of US Presidents. Unfortunately he passed before I was aware enough to talk to him about his views.
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A tip of the hat to your pops. My father in law is a ww2 combat vet. A jew fighting in europe against hitler. And what he sees today from republicans turns his stomach.
 
I have read the right-wing complaints of Omar accusing her of being a communist, but she sounds exactly like FDR.
 
So basically the GOP has been lying to their base since the twenties according to the time line truman is using. So almost a hundred years now the leadership of the GOP has convinced their base things that would indeed be good for them, are bad. Government bad, taxes bad, poor people bad. And now with their latest installment of bs, immigration bad.

I used to feel sorry for poor people who keep voting republican. I no longer have any pity for them.
 
DifferentDrummr said:
Arguably the wisest quote every made by a president. It's no wonder he mentioned this in the age of McCarthy (1952).
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Socialism is a scareword they have hurled at every advance the people have made in the last 20 years. Socialism is what they called public power. Socialism is what they called social security. Socialism is what they called farm price supports. Socialism is what they called bank deposit insurance. Socialism is what they called the growth of free and independent labor organizations. Socialism is their name for almost anything that helps all the people. ​
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Harry forgot to add the last line: "Socialism is what they call socialism" - a truism Democrats have always avoided.
 
bongsaway said:
A tip of the hat to your pops. My father in law is a ww2 combat vet. A jew fighting in europe against hitler. And what he sees today from republicans turns his stomach.
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You heard of the “Ritchie Boys?”
 
bongsaway said:
I indeed have. Saw a doc on the history channel about them. Your pops was one?
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Fourth class; CIC, 4th ID, Utah Beach, 6JUN44, St. Lo, Falaise Gap, Huertgen Forest, Berlin CIC. Missing a few pieces.
 
DifferentDrummr said:
Arguably the wisest quote every made by a president. It's no wonder he mentioned this in the age of McCarthy (1952).
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Truman was a racist war criminal so it isn't surprising that he would be a fan of the most destructive ideology known to man.
 
Fletch said:
Truman was a racist war criminal so it isn't surprising that he would be a fan of the most destructive ideology known to man.
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You run along now. TurtleDude needs his evening foot massage, and you know how he gets when you're late.
 
DifferentDrummr said:
You run along now. TurtleDude needs his evening foot massage, and you know how he gets when you're late.
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Everyone handles the truth differently. You handle it by making lame attempts at insult.
 
maxparrish said:
And echoing FDR does not make her sound communist how? ;)
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I'm sure FDR sounds like a commie lover to a red-baiter, but that's why they're called "red baiters".
If it walks like a duck...
 
Fletch said:
Truman was a racist war criminal so it isn't surprising that he would be a fan of the most destructive ideology known to man.
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How was he a "war criminal" exactly? Dropping the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki saved a huge number of lives of both allied personnel and Japanese civilians who were going to be flung into the fire in a desperate attempt to stop Downfall.
 
j brown's body said:
I have read the right-wing complaints of Omar accusing her of being a communist, but she sounds exactly like FDR.
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You have not been keeping up, in todays Republican party even Ayn Rand would be considered a communist...
 
Fletch said:
Everyone handles the truth differently. You handle it by making lame attempts at insult.
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And from what I have seen you handle it by denying it and then lying...
 
Tigerace117 said:
How was he a "war criminal" exactly? Dropping the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki saved a huge number of lives of both allied personnel and Japanese civilians who were going to be flung into the fire in a desperate attempt to stop Downfall.
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Very true, that had to have been the hardest decision any president has ever made.

Personally I would not find fault with either decision, either would have been. equally correct or wrong...
 
GDViking said:
And from what I have seen you handle it by denying it and then lying...
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Give me an example of when I did that.


(you cant because you are lying)
 
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