Trump v. Hitler

DifferentDrummr said:

Those are all consequences of your ideology: Reagan and both Bushes loved all those things.

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Please list the debt of each president since reagan.

AlphaOmega said:

Please list the debt of each president since reagan.

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Reading that correctly, the worst were Reagan, Daddy and Bush Jr.

calamity said:

Reading that correctly, the worst were Reagan, Daddy and Bush Jr.

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Nice chart. Now list the debt on the day each president took office and the debt on their last day in office. I'll do the math for you using facts..

DifferentDrummr said:

If you actually believe that, you aren't very creative. There are all kinds of other comparisons.

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No substantial comparisons, certainly. I mean, I guess you can compare their height, their hair color, their level of education, but who would care?

Ouroboros said:

No substantial comparisons, certainly. I mean, I guess you can compare their height, their hair color, their level of education, but who would care?

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He sure as hell gets his acolytes to behave the same way that Nazis did:

DifferentDrummr said:

Who is/was the most malicious? Hitler at least believed that he was doing something to benefit Germany. Trump isn't the least bit interested in doing anything to help America, its people, or anything else. His interest never goes farther than getting more money and getting others to idolize him.

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Comparing Trump with Hitler? Really?

Do you even begin to understand how profoundly inhumane was the regime in Nazi Germany? Hitler revoked the rights of Jews and many others, arrested them for no other crime than being themselves, sent them to concentration camps and put in motion a detailed plan to exterminate them. It is quite telling that Zyklon B, previously used by Nazis in an effort to cleanse factories from bug infestation was now used to kill human beings. But, wait, there is more to this story. As Germany was losing grounds, instead of slowing down the process and moving resources toward the war effort, Nazis diverted increasingly more resources from the war effort to accelerate the killing. There is a very good case to be made that Hitler wasn't after any higher goal, that he got things exactly how he wanted them. Nothing is so spiteful of life itself than to get the entire continent of Europe to burn in flames and drown in blood while killing millions of innocents in the process...

Trump made questionable comments about minorities and women. Some feelings got hurt and some people got mad. Nobody saw their rights revoked, no war started, no one was sent to concentration camps, no one got gassed to death... But, in your eyes, it's worth asking who's worse.

Disagreement need not be caused by ignorance, stupidity or bad intentions. There is a very real possibility that you might be wrong, partly or entirely, or that others simply focus on a different set of goals than those you happen to cherish. It doesn't give you grounds for comparing them with Hitler, let alone accusing as you do in your signature almost everyone who disagrees with you of being outright evil. Out of respect for the horrors endured by victims of Nazis and their relatives, you should perhaps reconsider the insult. Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot set the bar extremely high for evil wrongdoings. They're not things you should joke about and risk trivializing.

calamity said:

I can see why someone who voted for the draft dodging fascist would feel that way.

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If you think Trump is a fascist, you don't know what is a fascist. Ripping distasteful jokes and making equally questionable comments at the expense of minorities and women is not fascism. You should stop trivializing historical horrors like that, just in case you need one day to point at an actual Nazi who actually is threatening a do-over of those horrors.

It's as ludicrous as those who called Obama a Kenyan communist.

DifferentDrummr said:

Who is/was the most malicious?

Hitler at least believed that he was doing something to benefit Germany. Trump isn't the least bit interested in doing anything to help America, its people, or anything else. His interest never goes farther than getting more money and getting others to idolize him.

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Using your theory then who is most malicious Liberals or ISIS?

I looked at the title of the OP and realized that this would make a great video game. Trump vs. Hitler, the main event!

gulfman said:

Using your theory then who is most malicious Liberals or ISIS?

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Harvey Weinstein is the most malicious liberal I can think of right off. I don’t know that much about specific guys in ISIS, however.

DifferentDrummr said:

Who is/was the most malicious?

Hitler at least believed that he was doing something to benefit Germany. Trump isn't the least bit interested in doing anything to help America, its people, or anything else. His interest never goes farther than getting more money and getting others to idolize him.

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Quote by C. S. Lewis: “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised...”

Your OP reminds me of a quote from C.S. Lewis:

“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”

― C. S. Lewis

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DifferentDrummr said:

He sure as hell gets his acolytes to behave the same way that Nazis did:

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Wow, you win, hands down!

--Because I don't feel like trolling the "net looking for pictures of people acting like asses for Obama or Hillary, that is.

Taxman said:

The parallels of the two are quite similar in most aspects except military service and time in jail.

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Well Trump's gonna get his time in jail.

gulfman said:

Using your theory then who is most malicious Liberals or ISIS?

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A guy who compares Donald Trump to Adolf Hitler already lacks all credibility.

Some people do not understand the concept of civility and perceive disagreement as an existential threat. They cannot fathom that reasonable, well-meaning people may disagree with them on a wide range of political issues. But, then again, what did you expect when you saw the nobody who is making wild accusations at the POTUS has his picture as the Joker on his account?

Despite being overweight and in poor health, Donald Trump could definitely take Adolf Hitler in a fight if it occurred today.

Amelia said:

Though Trump expresses sickening affection for murderous dictators, and though he practically begs to be Godwinned, our constitution and our courts and the media spotlight which is continually shining on him will stop him from ever coming close to genocide.

He may severely traumatize children. He may inspire a new generation of uber-violent gangs with a grudge against the U.S. government. He may hasten the decline of the health of the planet and indirectly cause deaths in that manner, possibly even more deaths than happened in the the Holocaust. But, no, we should not minimize what Hitler did by suggesting that Trump is worse than Hitler.

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I think what most people who Godwin the man identify with is the fact that the POTENTIAL is there, and not whether or not he IS, at this time, the equal OF. No, of course he's not the equal of Hitler, but he appears to be in the process of securing similar powers, he appears to harbor similar hostilities, he appears to be inspiring millions with the desire to commit unspeakable evil at his command, he appears to see himself as equally infallible and equally omnipotent, he appears to desire a lifetime post...and lastly, he appears to harbor the same illusion that he is above the law.
And it's documented that he admires Hitler.
By the way, the Constitution is toast, he has proven that, and so have members of Congress, the courts are increasingly under his thumb and almost a third of Americans would cheerfully kill members of the press outright if he asked them to. They don't believe anything from the media unless HE SAYS it's true.

So okay, Trump isn't Hitler. Are we to just wait and see if he tries to actually BECOME Hitler?

Checkerboard Strangler said:

I think what most people who Godwin the man identify with is the fact that the POTENTIAL is there, and not whether or not he IS, at this time, the equal OF. No, of course he's not the equal of Hitler, but he appears to be in the process of securing similar powers, he appears to harbor similar hostilities, he appears to be inspiring millions with the desire to commit unspeakable evil at his command, he appears to see himself as equally infallible and equally omnipotent, he appears to desire a lifetime post...and lastly, he appears to harbor the same illusion that he is above the law.
And it's documented that he admires Hitler.
By the way, the Constitution is toast, he has proven that, and so have members of Congress, the courts are increasingly under his thumb and almost a third of Americans would cheerfully kill members of the press outright if he asked them to. They don't believe anything from the media unless HE SAYS it's true.

So okay, Trump isn't Hitler. Are we to just wait and see if he tries to actually BECOME Hitler?

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I am probably as alarmed as you are about Trump. About the number of people who think he is a good president. About how he is othering the vulnerable and priming his followers to think they are subhuman. About how Trump is giving us an active case study in how ordinary human beings can take those first steps in the direction of becoming monsters. Of course we need to be vigilant, and if needed hopefully some among us will be brave enough to do very drastic things to save the nation from Trump's impulses.

But I answered the question posed in the OP. So please don't suggest that I don't see what a danger Trump is to the nation just because I answered the actual question which was asked.

Amelia said:

I am probably as alarmed as you are about Trump. About the number of people who think he is a good president. About how he is othering the vulnerable and priming his followers to think they are subhuman. About how Trump is giving us an active case study in how ordinary human beings can take those first steps in the direction of becoming monsters. Of course we need to be vigilant, and if needed hopefully some among us will be brave enough to do very drastic things to save the nation from Trump's impulses.

But I answered the question posed in the OP. So please don't suggest that I don't see what a danger Trump is to the nation just because I answered the actual question which was asked.

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I was speaking in general, not to you in particular.

DifferentDrummr said:

Trump isn't the least bit interested in doing anything to help America, its people, or anything else.

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If the liberal has evidence of that I will pay him $10,000 in legally binding bet. Bet?? or run away super embarrassed once again with your liberal tail between your legs.

The best Trump to Hitler example is calling anti-fascists terrorism.

DifferentDrummr said:

Who is/was the most malicious?

Hitler at least believed that he was doing something to benefit Germany. Trump isn't the least bit interested in doing anything to help America, its people, or anything else. His interest never goes farther than getting more money and getting others to idolize him.

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Dude, seriously? Trump compared to HITLER? :roll:

Taxman said:

The parallels of the two are quite similar in most aspects except military service and time in jail.

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Oh, and the murder of 12 million people and responsible for the deaths of perhaps 50 million more people... but yeah, these two are practically twins!

DifferentDrummr said:

You have every right to say that Hitler was more malicious than Trump. But using either man’s victims to stifle discussion is out of bounds.

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Stating that it is out of bounds to talk about Hitlers victims is out of bounds and alarming...

calamity said:

The best Trump to Hitler example is calling anti-fascists terrorism.

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Oh yes, because this is not terrorism.







And yes, ANTIFA is a bunch of terrorists. I am sorry if you do not like that, but it is true. Every time they show up, you have riots, vandalism, and bloody violent (often racist) attacks. Yet for some strange reason a lot of people like to pretend that is not true and ignore what they are.

That is what I see the biggest difference between the Right and Left. I stand against violence from any side, Right and Left both. I condemn any who use any means other than peaceful protest as a way to try and spread their message. Get confrontational, attack bystanders and those you do not agree with, I stand 100% against that no matter what side of the political fence they are on.

But funny, how when it comes to ANTIFA there are so damned many apologists and others who actively support them. I can only assume they support violence, so long as the cause supports their political beliefs.

Bodhisattva said:

Dude, seriously? Trump compared to HITLER? :roll:

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sure!! Trumps policies led to the employment of more blacks women and hispanics than ever in American History while HItler's led to the deaths of 60 million human souls. If you have a liberal IQ that is about equal. See why we say liberalism is based in pure 100% ignorance?