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Soviet ("Muscovite") vs. Nazi posters - amazing 100% similarity!

Then again, when it comes to killing the Comunists and Soviet Socialists far out shined National Socialists--
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--which may have been because the National Socialists insisted that they were neither Communist nor capitalist, that they were the "third way" half way between the two:

Hitler had a shorter political career than Mao or Stalin though.
 
...And no, the ability to usurp political power only rests with the use of a gun. But then you need to make the argument that a revolution is necessary....


In Sweden there are many laws - like in any developed country

Let's say you break one...or refuse to comply with one

You get a summons to court

What happens if you refuse to go?

The police come for you

What happens if you resist ?

The police will make you go

What happens if you continue to resist and match the police violence with your own ?

Ultimately, n matter how civilized a country is, political power is exerted through the barrel of a gun.
The Swedish policeman will point a gun at you.
 
So as we all know that commies have killed much more people ( i am not talking even about enslavement peasants , in which commies are absolute champions ) than Nazis,

So why is it still Ok in the western world to be a commie, even today?

Who says it is okay to "be a commie" in the west today?
 
The greek city states were not "limited" democracies. In fact, ever since then, the discussion has been about how to limit democracy so that its worst tendencies don't come to fruition.

So you didn't actually read my post.
Figures.
 
Once big bonus for Communism is that it produces desperate, morally soulless attractive young women that will spread their legs in exchange for the smallest comfort. I know of guys in Cuba (not me) that successfully traded a six pack of bath soap and a pack of toilet paper for sex.

They charge you more?
 
Then again, when it comes to killing the Comunists and Soviet Socialists far out shined National Socialists--
killers.png

--which may have been because the National Socialists insisted that they were neither Communist nor capitalist, that they were the "third way" half way between the two:

lololol

Stalin's death count was between 7-10 million. Not 60 million. That number is ridiculous.
 
No, what you to need to understand is that mao was referring to revolution. You know the same crap americans keep guns and masterbate about but do nothing about.

Like marx, mao was faced with a situation where only violence would prevail against an entrenched authority. Where as in todays world workers can gain political power through less violent form of the vote.

And yet, the killing continued long after Mao's regime secured control over mainland China. If anything, the slaughter got worse once the Chinese Communists gained full control of the country.

So your weak excuse simply doesn't fly.
 
They charge you more?

I offer a hell of a lot more than that: Entry into tourist establishments not commonly accessible to Cubans and try to give the chick an unforgettable, once-in-a-lifetime experience. She returns the favor. It's a win-win for all involved. I'm extremely picky and I get the best.
 
lololol

Stalin's death count was between 7-10 million. Not 60 million. That number is ridiculous.
If you want you can say he only killed 7-10 dozen, buy most historians peg the Holodomor alone at 10 million alone. It's been 3/4 of a century and they're still finding new mass graves.

Any way we look at it this is definately not something we want (as you put it) to "laugh out loud" about.
 
If you want you can say he only killed 7-10 dozen, buy most historians peg the Holodomor alone at 10 million alone. It's been 3/4 of a century and they're still finding new mass graves.

The Holodomor killed around 3-5 million people. Anything higher isn't supported by demographic data, as shown here. http://history.org.ua/JournALL/journal/2015_4.pdf

This could be found in the third link of your search by the way, so maybe read a little bit further before you make such claims that the evidence backs you up.


 
In Sweden there are many laws - like in any developed country

Let's say you break one...or refuse to comply with one

You get a summons to court

What happens if you refuse to go?

The police come for you

What happens if you resist ?

The police will make you go

What happens if you continue to resist and match the police violence with your own ?

Ultimately, n matter how civilized a country is, political power is exerted through the barrel of a gun.
The Swedish policeman will point a gun at you.

If you set out to create violence then do not be surprised when violence happens. The point of any society whether it be two people or two million is that of cooperation and not just insisting your own way or else you will start shooting people.

This argument is nothing more than pushing an idea to its extreme at which point it will inevitably break down.
 
And yet, the killing continued long after Mao's regime secured control over mainland China. If anything, the slaughter got worse once the Chinese Communists gained full control of the country.

So your weak excuse simply doesn't fly.

The killing is probably still continuing today. As to whether it is worse that, considering the alternatives at the time, is a questionable statement.

But again i need to repeat that a one state government is not specifically a communist idea. It belongs to the philosophy of dictatorship and not socialist. Communism is a theory of economics not politics.

Nor is china a communist state. After all can you point out where in any communist doctrine that allows for extreme poverty among the workers while capitalist entrepreneurs live in luxury and are millionaires. Which is also along with the killing going on in china today.

You obviously have not quite managed to understand the point here. Mao along with lenin were faced with a situation where violent revolution was the only course of action. What there regimes continued to do after the revolution is beside the point. After all i am not the one arguing for their kind of dictatorship. It is the anti socialists who seem to think that theirs was a communist country yet fail as usual to point out in what way it could be called communist.
 
its a well-known fact, unfortunately

If it is a "well-known fact," then these abundant facts should be easy for you to find and share in DP. Why do not you go ahead and post some of those here please?

Also, avoid those hours and hours of multimedia links again.
 
Then again, when it comes to killing the Comunists and Soviet Socialists far out shined National Socialists--
killers.png

--which may have been because the National Socialists insisted that they were neither Communist nor capitalist, that they were the "third way" half way between the two:

The numbers on that graph are way out. Stalin killed nowhere near 60 million.
 
Hitler had a shorter political career than Mao or Stalin though.

Apart from time, it is also a matter of methodology and the number of mass murderers involved. For instance, if the number of governmental mass murderers is smaller than Mao or Stalin, and less organised, then the number of victims also drops even if they have more time.

Take for instance Serbia's Slobodan Milosevic. He is next to last of worldwide known evil dictators if only the number of mass murderers are taken into consideration:

https://www.scaruffi.com/politics/dictat.html

Unlike Hitler, Milosevic had more time, but lacked the methodology, organisation, and the number of Serbian mass murderers involved, else he might have been even more lethal considering the amount of time that he stood on power.
 
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Yes, you have well demonstrated that you have no interest in communism. To the point where you do not even understand it. Russia never was communist. It was a dictatorship. Apart from calling itself communist it dod not one thing that is communist. Just because someone takes on a label does not mean they are that thing.

"Russia was never communist!" they say.

Ask any russian if the soviet union was communist,
"oh no, it was going to get a lot worse!"
 
The killing is probably still continuing today. As to whether it is worse that, considering the alternatives at the time, is a questionable statement.

But again i need to repeat that a one state government is not specifically a communist idea. It belongs to the philosophy of dictatorship and not socialist. Communism is a theory of economics not politics.

Nor is china a communist state. After all can you point out where in any communist doctrine that allows for extreme poverty among the workers while capitalist entrepreneurs live in luxury and are millionaires. Which is also along with the killing going on in china today.

You obviously have not quite managed to understand the point here. Mao along with lenin were faced with a situation where violent revolution was the only course of action. What there regimes continued to do after the revolution is beside the point. After all i am not the one arguing for their kind of dictatorship. It is the anti socialists who seem to think that theirs was a communist country yet fail as usual to point out in what way it could be called communist.

Which doubly condemns your ideology; there certainly isn't any serious threat to communist control over mainland China today, yet the slaughter continues.

There hasn't been a single communist state which hasn't slaughtered thousands of its own people. Every single time the system has been implemented it has led to nothing but slaughter and suffering, and desperate shrieks of "that's not real communism" are A) an incredibly weak attempted retort and B) fall short when, again, compared to the fact that it has happened every single time.

I get that New Zealand is the last redoubt of tankies, but your desperate justifications for the mass slaughter simply do not hold up.
 
"Russia was never communist!" they say.

Ask any russian if the soviet union was communist,
"oh no, it was going to get a lot worse!"

What an incredibly naive argument you make.

Go and ask any north korean and they will tell you that they live in a democratic republic.

Just because those in power call it something is not a reason to believe it. Which is basically what your argument is.

I will stand on the fact that you cannot point to anything in russia that fits the ideology of communism. That would be despite the fact that you along with others here do not know enough about the communist ideology to spot it any way.
 
Which doubly condemns your ideology; there certainly isn't any serious threat to communist control over mainland China today, yet the slaughter continues.

There hasn't been a single communist state which hasn't slaughtered thousands of its own people. Every single time the system has been implemented it has led to nothing but slaughter and suffering, and desperate shrieks of "that's not real communism" are A) an incredibly weak attempted retort and B) fall short when, again, compared to the fact that it has happened every single time.

I get that New Zealand is the last redoubt of tankies, but your desperate justifications for the mass slaughter simply do not hold up.

It is not communist control when those in power are not following any form of communist doctrine.

There has not been a single communist state, period.

Again i will point to north korea which calls itself a democratic republic According to your argument then we can now say that democracy and republics are also responsible for killing their own people.

I do understand the reason for the stupidity of your argument. You simply take the most shallowest of effort to reason. Someone calls it communist and without bothering to check whether it is , you believe it. Possibly because you have never actually bothered to learn anything about communism. Your not alone there. Others here follow your example of doing absolutely nothing more than demonstrating a similar shallow reasoning of just obediently believing what those in authority tell them.
 
If you want you can say he only killed 7-10 dozen, buy most historians peg the Holodomor alone at 10 million alone. It's been 3/4 of a century and they're still finding new mass graves.

Any way we look at it this is definately not something we want (as you put it) to "laugh out loud" about.

you made a great point here, a good example Kurapaty , how many the satanists killed Belarusians there? NKVD archives are classified in Belarus

"Kurapaty (Belarusian: Курапаты, IPA: [kuraˈpatɨ]) is a wooded area on the outskirts of Minsk, Belarus, in which a vast number of people were executed between 1937 and 1941 during the Great Purge by the Soviet secret police, the NKVD.

The exact count of victims is uncertain, as NKVD archives are classified in Belarus.[1] According to various sources the number of people who perished in Kurapaty is estimated in at least 30,000 people (according to attorney general of BSSR Tarnaŭski), up to 100,000 people (according to “Belarus” reference book),[1][2] from 102,000 to 250,000 people (according to the article by Zianon Pazniak in “Litaratura i mastactva” newspaper),[3][4] 250,000 people (according to Polish historian and professor of University of Wrocław Zdzisław Julian Winnicki),[5] and more (according to the British historian Norman Davies).[6] "


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kurapaty



 
It is not communist control when those in power are not following any form of communist doctrine.

There has not been a single communist state, period.

Again i will point to north korea which calls itself a democratic republic According to your argument then we can now say that democracy and republics are also responsible for killing their own people.

I do understand the reason for the stupidity of your argument. You simply take the most shallowest of effort to reason. Someone calls it communist and without bothering to check whether it is , you believe it. Possibly because you have never actually bothered to learn anything about communism. Your not alone there. Others here follow your example of doing absolutely nothing more than demonstrating a similar shallow reasoning of just obediently believing what those in authority tell them.

name the party which was in charge in ussr?
 
name the party which was in charge in ussr?

Again the stupidity amazes me. Ask yourself what is the name of the party which is in charge of north korea.

Once again i will repeat. Just because those in power give themselves titles, does not mean they actually believe in or will act of those titles.
 
Again the stupidity amazes me. Ask yourself what is the name of the party which is in charge of north korea.

Once again i will repeat. Just because those in power give themselves titles, does not mean they actually believe in or will act of those titles.

north korea has always been a small satellite of ussr and china, who cares about this %hitt hole ? , you are a commie (satanist ) its no chance for salvation for you. i hope you will end up in Gulag´s hell (commie made world ) after your death


 
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