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The first established colony was Jamestown in 1607. With Jamestown were the first set of 'parents'. From the time of Jamestown, 1607, to current, it has been 411 years. How many generations of 'parents' could 411 years have? If one set of 'parents' live to, let's say 60 as the lowest age expectancy, 6.85 sets can fit into 411 years. Which would mean that the U.S might have seen 6.85 Generations of 'parents' since 1607. 6.85 sets is:

Great, great, great, grandparents, if today, they are themselves 'parents'.


5 generations previous has been able to 'hand' down their blessings and knowledge since the year 1607 IF they were in The U.S then.
 
The new generation doesn't start when the old one dies, but when they procreate.

So if they start hammering out kids at 16, and the kids do likewise, we're looking at 25-26 generations.
 
Different cultures have different ways and methods of discipline and correcting. And the U.S with it having around 6 or so full 60 year generations since 1607 is beginning to form its own stance on their methodology of disciplining and correcting that is being spread around as the 'common' way in The U.S.

Even the near past immigrants and newly arriving immigrants are being 'indoctrinated' into these methodologies of disciplining and correcting.


Because of this, it appears as if The U.S is breaking away from their 'parents', the original founders and fathers, to be joined to their husband or wife to be as 1 flesh. Who is the husband and who is the wife? Maybe the children who are breaking away from the traditions and ways of their past heritage(s).

This 'form' of correcting and disciplining, which might be more 'avant garde' then traditional, is being 'joined' with each and every 'new' Political Administration. So today, the methodology of correcting and disciplining is being placed into the hands of the Political correctness rather than on individual homes and families. One Politics with a common correctness of being 'politically correct or common'.


So who is the U.S being 'married', or joined to, to be as one flesh? The U.S Politics with the House of Representatives, the Supreme Court and the Executive being as surrogate parents.


What they say, we do.


But first this form of 'obedience' should begin and be practiced within individual homes and families.

Obey mother and father and then be Lawful unto Governments. And if mother or father should be unlawful persons asking their children to do unlawful things, what should the child do since there are some parents who do ask and require their children to do unlawfully? What should these children do when those whom they are supposed to 'honor' is asking them or telling them to be 'unlawful'?


And so after 411 years the U.S is beginning to be identified and beginning to form its maturity on and in such current ways. Many suggest that with each new generation and administration that there are 'new' ways overall. I do not believe this is true. Each new generation and administration is a continuation from the previous, and that being a continuation of its previous. For a 'new' way to arrive with each and new generation is not true. Why do I say that it is being formed into maturity and why do I say that it is being identified in such current ways? Because the only ones who know of any 'past' ideologies and methodologies in The U.S are also aging and becoming 'retired' citizens in every Country/Nation that knew of how the U.S was prior to current ways. The newly watching ones, in all places, did not nor did they witness what the past generations were like within the U.S.
 
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A "generation" does not exist as a societal thing.

It's a label people use, but it's quite absurd seeing as people aren't born in calculated batches but rather whenever the hell it ends up happening
 
crazyme said:
The first established colony was Jamestown in 1607. With Jamestown were the first set of 'parents'. From the time of Jamestown, 1607, to current, it has been 411 years. How many generations of 'parents' could 411 years have? If one set of 'parents' live to, let's say 60 as the lowest age expectancy, 6.85 sets can fit into 411 years. Which would mean that the U.S might have seen 6.85 Generations of 'parents' since 1607. 6.85 sets is:

Great, great, great, grandparents, if today, they are themselves 'parents'.


5 generations previous has been able to 'hand' down their blessings and knowledge since the year 1607 IF they were in The U.S then.
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that is WAY off lol family generations dont start when others die, they start when others are born
 
Here is an example.

China has seen its first case of AIDS deaths in numbers that almost meet up with the total combined infectious disease deaths in the year 2008. China saw 7000 AIDS deaths in the first 9 months of that year which was only 1000 less than the combined total number of deaths due to ALL infectious diseases of its past 3 years, prior to 2008. But how is China, with a population of over 1 billion and with an AIDS death number, in 2008, at 7000, dealing with this new growing problem and concern? They are trying to show how AIDS and the lifestyles of such members who are at high risk should be welcomed, understood and encouraged to not feel any form of shame. And while some businesses within China is leery of participating in this methodology, they are beginning to be scrutinized by Government as being individual 'haters' more than National protectors. Why do I say this? Because to a Nation with over 1 billion persons, 7000 individuals is changing what China was known for in every generation before the year 2008.


It seems as if China was pretty healthy if the combined deaths of ALL infectious diseases for 2005-2008 was only 8000, eh?

My guess as to why China has seen the rise of AIDS which it never did previously: 'Yaba'. The crystal meth and caffeine pill which is now being found in The United States, Europe and even Israel.

Popular among even the 10 year olds and making the well to dos even more 'posh' by doing 'Yaba'.

Not only that but the Junta party in Thailand is seeking to 'legalize/decriminalize' Yaba in Thailand.


Is it politically incorrect to have a negative 'eye' towards these things in China? Is it non-humanitarian to keep a Nation safe from uncleanliness such as infectious diseases if it is only beginning to surface? If this is not corrected but 'smooth talked' over, China might one day see an increase of AIDS more than X to the exponent time(s) amount over its current.


I have learned, living during these changing times in The U.S that it is okay to bring grievances. And if those grievances are not redressed to make even more grievances.


The 'petitioning' part was not covered in basic 'grievances' school.
 
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crazyme said:
The first established colony was Jamestown in 1607. With Jamestown were the first set of 'parents'. From the time of Jamestown, 1607, to current, it has been 411 years. How many generations of 'parents' could 411 years have? If one set of 'parents' live to, let's say 60 as the lowest age expectancy, 6.85 sets can fit into 411 years. Which would mean that the U.S might have seen 6.85 Generations of 'parents' since 1607. 6.85 sets is:

Great, great, great, grandparents, if today, they are themselves 'parents'.


5 generations previous has been able to 'hand' down their blessings and knowledge since the year 1607 IF they were in The U.S then.
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My family came over on the Mayflower... 1620.
 
All I learned in basic 'grievances' school was that there is a thing known as 'filibustering' to which grievances, either petitioned or not, can be swept under the rug as if the breath never existed.

And so, please excuse and forgive my ignorant knowledge to grievances education.

But since every criticism does not end in an offense, what I have learned with grievances and the redressing of such is this:

There is a way which is called receiving forgiveness for acting in a way which is/was non appreciated by any other being. Especially is no 'physical' harm was done to any other although emotions might have been hurt.

National Security revolves around 'physical' well being, not emotional well being. Once again, National Security, as a physical safety issue, might only be a thing known by past generations which are 'retiring' into retirement age in all Countries and Nations. Now days, National Security might have more to do with Internet and the World Wide Web more than borders and persons. Surely there are still some Countries which are still within its past heritages, right?

A basic rule of thumb I have learned:

Never treat another as if that person was another. Always treat the individual as the individual and do not think to yourself that that individual is a spy, of sorts, especially if you have known that person for a long enough time. This gets into 'suspicion' based on 'strange ideas'.

The Fort Lauderdale Airport gunman had these 'strange ideas' coming from NSA supposedly. Although he was an ex U.S military personnel, the strange ideas might have led him to believe that Fort Lauderdale was a covert sleeper city for terrorists or something... His suspicion led him to believe that he was around the U.S longer than Fort Lauderdale was.


Living in safety among neighbors requires combined effort. Singular desires of rights over the safety rights of the others is not the way to promote peace. Living in safety.. The key word of the underlining feelings of security and safety in a neighborhood is 'SAFETY'. 'Cumulative' Safety; not just 'individual' Safety.

And what's a neighbor to do if their safety is based around submission to which another individual does not want to be a part of? That person's unwillingness to be submissive might cause non safety to the submissive ones if they should begin to voice their own concerns.
 
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When Federal Court Judges, Chief of Police and State Attorney are all being tried and investigated into for 'wrong doing', it could make sense that there might have been something 'oppressive' going on while they were in their jobs.

This on the State level. What about on the public citizened level where private properties and personal well being are needed?


There is always something a citizen can do. Always.

Number 1 thing: Not make nor live in excuses.


What sort of male makes or lives in excuses?

It takes more of a male to turn self into the Authorities for wrong doing if he truly committed the wrong than to be constantly on the run and hideout and deceiving and lying. If they do not want to turn self over to Authorities, then repentance and a change of life, to the better, away from the wrong doings, could help them be cleansed and forgiven to start a new life path.
 
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It's a good thing that there is a road that leads off the road of wrong in Life lest we all end up walking or running or driving over the edge.
 
crazyme said:
The first established colony was Jamestown in 1607. With Jamestown were the first set of 'parents'. From the time of Jamestown, 1607, to current, it has been 411 years. How many generations of 'parents' could 411 years have? If one set of 'parents' live to, let's say 60 as the lowest age expectancy, 6.85 sets can fit into 411 years. Which would mean that the U.S might have seen 6.85 Generations of 'parents' since 1607. 6.85 sets is:

Great, great, great, grandparents, if today, they are themselves 'parents'.


5 generations previous has been able to 'hand' down their blessings and knowledge since the year 1607 IF they were in The U.S then.
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And those brave colonialists back then would've hated the thought of their descendants being ruled by Republicanism.
 
crazyme said:
The first established colony was Jamestown in 1607.
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Wrong, that is the first successful colony.

There had been a lot of attempts prior to that. Vineland, Cantino, Pensacola, Paris Island, Saint Croix, Fort Saint Louis, even most famously Roanoke and Popham.

Jamestown was simply the first to not die out or abandon the colony.
 
crazyme said:
The first established colony was Jamestown in 1607. With Jamestown were the first set of 'parents'. From the time of Jamestown, 1607, to current, it has been 411 years. How many generations of 'parents' could 411 years have? If one set of 'parents' live to, let's say 60 as the lowest age expectancy, 6.85 sets can fit into 411 years. Which would mean that the U.S might have seen 6.85 Generations of 'parents' since 1607. 6.85 sets is:

Great, great, great, grandparents, if today, they are themselves 'parents'.


5 generations previous has been able to 'hand' down their blessings and knowledge since the year 1607 IF they were in The U.S then.
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A generation is usually stated between 20-25 years. Depending.

https://www.ancestry.ca/learn/learningcenters/default.aspx?section=lib_Generation
 
Data, data, data

enderpotato00 said:
American Indian is not a country. The U.S. is a country.
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The OP merely talks about colony. If the Native Peoples are still here, & were here continuously until the Europeans showed up in what's now the US (FL, Spain in 1513CE), then that argues that the NPs successfully colonized North America, flowing down Alaska into the continent & across the hemisphere.

Therefore, primacy - the status of plank holders, if you will - belongs to the NPs.
 
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southwest88 said:
The OP merely talks about colony. If the Native Peoples are still here, & were here continuously until the Europeans showed up in what's now the US (FL, Spain in 1513CE), then that argues that the NPs successfully colonized North America, flowing down Alaska into the continent & across the hemisphere.

Therefore, primacy - the status of plank holders, if you will - belongs to the NPs.
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Ok. Gotcha
 
ashurbanipal said:
Uh...why are you saying this?
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Because it should be obvious, unless somebody is ignorant of Indian culture.

Indians did not believe in something we would recognize as a "Nation".

They were tribes, they were clans. They were families.

To be a nation, you must own the land that nation occupies. And Indians did not comprehend the concept of "owning" land.

You could not own land, it simply was. You could not own the land, no more than you owned a river, or the air, or the deer.

You might walk upon it for a while, but you did not "own" it. It simply was. And somebody else walked upon it before you, and somebody else would walk upon it after you were gone. Another family, another tribe, another clan. It is only strangers that talk about owning something like the land, the Indians did not comprehend such a concept.

And yes, I am proud of my heritage. I am Potawatomi, part of the Council of Three Fires.

Which was founded according to legend by 3 brothers. They compose the Algonquin Family.

In this family of tribes, the Ojibiwa were the "Elder Brother". They were the "Keepers of the Faith". The Ojibawe were the "Middle Brother", the "Keepers of the Trade". And the Potawatomi were the "Younger Brothers", they were the "Keepers of the Fire (Hearth)".

Three tribes (clans), all descended form the same family. Who moved around as needed, only lived where they lived then moving on. They owned nothing that they did not carry on their backs.

So no, they were not a "country", as most people understand the concept. The "country" to them was the people, the land they were on at the moment was meaningless.

To put it in a European perspective, who were the "French"? Are the French a country or nation?

Remember, for thousands of years the Franks (French) were nomads, who wandered around first Central then Western Asia, before they ran into the Romans in what is now the Rhine Valley (Germany). They then moved on to the far reaches of Western Europe, where they finally settled in what is now France.

So ultimately, what is France? The land, or the people that live there?

Myself, I vote the people. Destroy the US and move all of the people to Greenland, and they are still Americans. The land matters not.
 
enderpotato00 said:
Because I hate when people act like American Indians are a country of their own and thus hold value.
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Hmmm...are you saying that Indians don't hold value? Also, when did I act like American Indians are a country? What exactly is a country, in your view? A nation? A state?
 
Oozlefinch said:
Because it should be obvious, unless somebody is ignorant of Indian culture.

Indians did not believe in something we would recognize as a "Nation".
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The word in question is not "nation." It is "country." Anyway, you should click the traceback links to see where I originally posted in this thread, and to what I was responding, before you make many assumptions about my motives (or my knowledge of my own culture). If you do, you'll see there was no question of "countries" at stake. Were the Mayflower colonists a "country"?
 
ashurbanipal said:
The word in question is not "nation." It is "country." Anyway, you should click the traceback links to see where I originally posted in this thread, and to what I was responding, before you make many assumptions about my motives (or my knowledge of my own culture). If you do, you'll see there was no question of "countries" at stake. Were the Mayflower colonists a "country"?
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No, it was a colony.

In fact, a Crown Colony, that was simply an extension of it's home country, Great Brittan. It was not in any way a country, but an extension of a country.

Just as the 13 Colonies were before they broke away.
 
ashurbanipal said:
My family came over from Siberia...21,000 B.C.
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No North American Native Americans had a written language... that means no records. That means your relatives could have come over much later and been assimilated.
 
Bodhisattva said:
No North American Native Americans had a written language... that means no records. That means your relatives could have come over much later and been assimilated.
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I've had the DNA test. We know from multiple lines of evidence that Indians came over in a single migration from Siberia roughly 21,000 B.C.E., and weren't disturbed, genetically speaking, until the early 16th century. Doesn't get any more sure than that.
 
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