Mongol Juchi "Orthodox" Church cuts ties with Constantinople over Ukraine

Tigerace117 said:

In other words, you continue to operate under the delusion---born out of your racial hatreds---that superficial building design means.....anything, actually.

Which really does expose you quite a bit.

The real question, of course, is who cares?

Who cares how the Russians design their buildings?

Who cares that there are lots of ethnic groups in Russia?

Why is any of this supposed to matter?

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i am sure you are a very old grandpa much possible from the peasants. which part of the Mongolian form of governance (despotic one) have missed ???? where did you find a race here?


"Despotism (Greek: Δεσποτισμός, Despotismós) is a form of government in which a single entity rules with absolute power. Normally, that entity is an individual, the despot, as in an autocracy, but societies which limit respect and power to specific groups have also been called despotic.[1]

Colloquially, the word despot applies pejoratively to those who abuse their power and authority to oppress their populace, subjects, or subordinates. More specifically, the term often applies to a head of state or government. In this sense, it is similar to the pejorative connotations that are associated with the terms tyrant and dictator.[2] "

"One method of classifying governments is through which people have the authority to rule. This can either be one person (an autocracy, such as monarchy), a select group of people (an aristocracy), or the people as a whole (a democracy, such as a republic).

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Tigerace117 said:

The atomic bomb made a mushroom shaped cloud.....oh no! America must have a Mongolian government too!


:roll::mrgreen:

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well it would be much better off,if it did

Litwin said:

i am sure you are a very old grandpa much possible from the peasants. which part of the Mongolian form of governance (despotic one) have missed ???? where did you find a race here?


"Despotism (Greek: Δεσποτισμός, Despotismós) is a form of government in which a single entity rules with absolute power. Normally, that entity is an individual, the despot, as in an autocracy, but societies which limit respect and power to specific groups have also been called despotic.[1]

Colloquially, the word despot applies pejoratively to those who abuse their power and authority to oppress their populace, subjects, or subordinates. More specifically, the term often applies to a head of state or government. In this sense, it is similar to the pejorative connotations that are associated with the terms tyrant and dictator.[2] "

"One method of classifying governments is through which people have the authority to rule. This can either be one person (an autocracy, such as monarchy), a select group of people (an aristocracy), or the people as a whole (a democracy, such as a republic).

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And that is one of the weakest excuses I've ever heard on this board, and that really is saying a lot.

Arbitrarily labeling despotism as "Mongolian government" is beyond stupid. Your own quote admits the concept existed long before the Mongols forged their empire. You might as well call Russia and China "Greek governments" if that is the level of logic you are using.

Which, of course, brings me back to my previous point--- who cares what Russian bulidings look like? Who cares about the patently false claims that Russian helmets had prayers to Allah on them? Why do you think those are insults?

theliq said:

well it would be much better off,if it did

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No, not really. There's a lot of reasons why none of the massive tribal held themselves together for very long.

Tigerace117 said:

No, not really. There's a lot of reasons why none of the massive tribal held themselves together for very long.

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and it will be the same for the US in time

Litwin said:

Muscovite architecture is clearly Oriental , Asiatic with other worlds : Mongolian

Karl Marx : "....The bloody mire of Mongolian slavery, not the rude glory of the Norman epoch, forms the cradle of Muscovy, and modern Russia is but a metamorphosis of Muscovy."

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That is not mongolian architecture at all, infact mongolian infrastructure was far different, and only started looking similar after the invasion of rus. Fyi russia used the onion domes before the golden horde invaded rus, and ukraine and belarus use them as well, with ukrains being a little different.

That architecture originates from ancient rome with the common use of the dome, and was further moved along with the byzantine or east roman empire. The middle east heavy copied the byzantine model of construction as that empire was mostly in the middle east, russia used their domed design on their orthodox cathedrals as it was a byzantine tradition and byzantine orthodox christianity was the main religion of rus. In the middle east they copied the same designs when islam spread, but with broader domes.


So to keep it short russia did not copy oriental architecture, the mongolians copied russian/ rus/ vladamir architecture which was copied from byzantine empire.

beerftw said:

That is not mongolian architecture at all, infact mongolian infrastructure was far different, and only started looking similar after the invasion of rus. Fyi russia used the onion domes before the golden horde invaded rus, and ukraine and belarus use them as well, with ukrains being a little different.

That architecture originates from ancient rome with the common use of the dome, and was further moved along with the byzantine or east roman empire. The middle east heavy copied the byzantine model of construction as that empire was mostly in the middle east, russia used their domed design on their orthodox cathedrals as it was a byzantine tradition and byzantine orthodox christianity was the main religion of rus. In the middle east they copied the same designs when islam spread, but with broader domes.


So to keep it short russia did not copy oriental architecture, the mongolians copied russian/ rus/ vladamir architecture which was copied from byzantine empire.

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no they dont , only on those which were build by mongol Asian occupants (Muscovites) , you know your friends

Litwin said:

no they dont , only on those which were build by mongol Asian occupants (Muscovites) , you know your friends

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The onion domes were built around 100 years before the mongol invasion, and there is zero evidence of those domes being mongol architecture. The first cathedral with onion domes was built when russia was still called vladamir and was a country within the kingdom of rus.

You can seriously research this stuff, or even look at a timeline of architecture and realize nothing mongolian looks even close except for mosques built long after the golden horde in a middle east style. Now if you can convince me that russia was building yurts and mud buildings for their buildings you would have a point, however you do not and ukraine and belarus also use similar structures, that all appeared after converting to orthodox christianity.

great news from Greece:

"Greece denies visa to "Russian" Orthodox Church official
The Chancellor of Moscow Patriarchate, Metropolitan Varsonofy of St. Petersburg and Ladoga has been refused a Greek visa ahead of his planned pilgrimage to Athos. "For many years the archbishop has been going on a pilgrimage to Athos. This year, he was denied a Schengen visa," the Chancellery told TASS. As UNIAN reported earlier, the priests of the "Russian" Orthodox Church (ROC) had been facing problems obtaining Schengen visas through the Greek consulate amid the conflict between the Russian Orthodox Church and the Patriarchate of Constantinople over the issue of granting autocephaly to the Ukrainian Orthodox Church (UOC). "This is the policy of the Greek government. Now the priests of the ROC are perceived as potential spies and agents of influence," a source close to Constantinople told the BBC Russian Service. If you see a spelling error on our site, select it and press : https://www.unian.info/world/10253940-greece-denies-visa-to-russian-orthodox-church-official.html