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How the Nazis Were Inspired by Jim Crow

jet57 said:
So, now you're out pimping for Dinesh D'souza?
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This isn't about me, but we can make it about you. Do you know anything about history, or haven't you gotten to that yet?
 
Jredbaron96 said:
The Nazis actually pretty friendly to the Chinese until they decided Japan was a more worthy ally.
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Funny, because neither of those two are Arian.
 
American said:
Funny, because neither of those two are Arian.
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The Germans weren't Aryan either: Aryans and British India; Thomas R Trautmann, Universtiy of California Press, 1997.

You should read up.
 
WCH said:
When you're eyeing world domination, you need friends.
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Exactly. Friends who can be deceived and then ruled over by an iron hand once the coup is accomplished.
 
American said:
https://www.history.com/news/how-the-nazis-were-inspired-by-jim-crow


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Crow_laws

I had no idea that the Nazi's had studied Jim Crow laws.
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Well the basis of the Nazi ideology is often not taught in basic school so to say. But yes the Nazies based many of their racial policies on US and Swedish eugenics ideology and laws going back half a century or more before WW2.

Add to that, that basic American history lessons (yes I went to a school with American history books), basically ignore the racial dominated legislation of the 1800s to the mid 1900s, and it is no wonder that most Americans know next to nothing of this part of their history. And where it is mentioned, it is often glossed over...for example the immigration laws of the early 1920s. They were clearly designed to allow in "blond haired blue eyed" immigrants and block Jewish immigration. But it is never described as such inmost history books...

Fact is America was one of, if not the most anti-semtic countries in the world until the 1930s.

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jet57 said:
The Germans weren't Aryan either: Aryans and British India; Thomas R Trautmann, Universtiy of California Press, 1997.

You should read up.
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Look at you, Google hero.
 
And now there is Nazi speed.

Yaba or Methamphetamine Worse Than Heroin – Chiang Rai Times English News Paper

Meth is also known as “Nazi Speed”, a reference to its widespread use (under the brand name “Pervitin”) by Hitler’s men during World War II. Malaysians would know it better by its street name, Shabu.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ya_ba

On 16 June 2016, the National Council for Peace and Order, the military junta ruling Thailand, stated that it was planning to decriminalise ya ba in the country.


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The Yaba pills come in pretty colours of dusky rose, green, red and orange. Placed in a palm, they look innocent enough, like pencil-eraser sized pieces of candy, – something a child would love. Closer inspection will show that there are imprints of these alphabets “R” or “WY” which tell you that what you’re looking at is the drug called Yaba – which is set to become, if not already, Thailand’s most abused drug after heroin.

Call it what you may, the names do nothing except to claim more fans. The fact that it is sometimes flavoured – grape, vanilla and orange – and referred to by the Thais as “chocalee” helps with its popularity among children young as 10 years old.

Yaba is considered to be even deadlier than pure Meth, its counterpart more popular in the western hemisphere. Incidentally, Yaba has already made its entrance into the United States.

https://www.chiangraitimes.com/yaba-or-methamphetamine-worse-than-heroin.html
 
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What are meth users known for?

Mental delusions/ideas/thoughts/reality....


Is it really sane to fly a jet into a ship, as the Japanese Kamikaze pilots who also used meth, did?


Not only kamikaze pilots but Adolph Hitler also, almost daily, used meth of sorts.


Is being attentive and keeping an eye out on your surroundings ever the bad/wrong thing to do?
 
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crazyme said:
What are meth users known for?

Mental delusions/ideas/thoughts/reality....


Is it really sane to fly a jet into a ship, as the Japanese Kamikaze pilots who also used meth, did?


Not only kamikaze pilots but Adolph Hitler also, almost daily, used meth of sorts.
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If Adolf had used pot, perhaps he might have been a better statesman.
 
Rich2018 said:
If Adolf had used pot, perhaps he might have been a better statesman.
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Some felt that National Socialism was an ideology where you helped the needy.
 
One of the most interesting aspects of the German foreign policy was the economic and military relationship with China and Japan. Hitler saw China and Japan as equals to Germany and established strong economic links with these countries, particularly with China. Chinese and Japanese were seen as “honorary Aryans” and in The Political Testament of Adolf Hitler, he wrote

“Pride in one’s race – and that does not imply contempt for other races – is also a normal and healthy sentiment. I have never regarded the Chinese or the Japanese as being inferior to ourselves. They belong to ancient civilizations, and I admit freely that their history is superior to our own.

They have the right to be proud of their past, just as we have the right to be proud of the civilization to which we belong. Indeed, I believe the more steadfast the Chinese and the Japanese remain in their pride of race, the easier I shall find it to get on with them.”

https://www.thevintagenews.com/2017...ly-that-their-history-is-superior-to-our-own/
 
BS

The Nazis were in no way inspired by racial stereo typing of other countries.

Hitler had his very only unique racial purity ideas.
 
American said:
I had no idea that the Nazi's had studied Jim Crow laws.
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The thing is, many of those laws still existed in other areas of Europe. Hence the "Ghettos" of countries like Poland. Laws and institutions like that had died off in Germany because of the Kaiser. Hitler simply used Jim Crowe to find a way to bring them back into a "Modern Democracy".

Jredbaron96 said:
Even weirder, the Nazis saw Native Americans as "Aryan", and actually hoped to used them to undermine the United States once Europe was dealt with.
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That was hardly unique. A great many in that era believed the Indians to be the "Lost Tribe" of Israel. To the Mormons, they are the Lamanites.

A lot of Europeans looked at the more "European" facial features of the East Coast Indians, and believed them to be descendants of voyagers from across the Atlantic. Look at pictures and drawings of say Mohawk or other Eastern tribes, they look much more European than those from say the Penutian or West Coast tribes.

You even have some debating this even today, as you have the "Asia Immigration Only" believers, trying to suppress any data collected that support the Solutreans theory (that the immigration came in both directions, with the European being earlier, but the Asian being larger). Even though increasingly we are finding ancient roots of Soultrean DNA has it's roots in Europe. But because of politicization, many try to pass it off as either early groups that went all the way from Europe to America through Asia, or even co-evolution of identical genetic groups.

Ignoring things like tools that existed at the earliest on the East Coast which had first been developed in Europe, and that a key genetic marker (Haplogroup R1) is almost exclusively found in Europe, and is also found in high numbers in East Coast Indians, but decreases as you move West.

Even under modern studies, the Algonquin Nation members to the Germans would likely be Aryan. But the Stillaguamish Tribe of Washington likely would not be, nor the Inuit.
 
zyzygy said:
One of the most interesting aspects of the German foreign policy was the economic and military relationship with China and Japan. Hitler saw China and Japan as equals to Germany and established strong economic links with these countries, particularly with China.
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Actually, you are missing part of history.

After the Boxer Rebellion, the countries that took part in the Multinational Mission to relieve the siege of the Legation Quarter each took control of a region of China to occupy.

For Germany, it took the Kiautschou Bay concession, where it leased (then occupied) the area around the modern city of Qingdao. This was a major economic overseas colony of the German Empire, which was seized by Japan during the First World War. And even though it was now nominally under Japanese control, there were still major German interests in the region.

Germany had been tied economically for over 80 years with China, and Der Paper Hanger was smart enough to realize that.
 
HowardBThiname said:
I didn't know that either -- I did know that they studied our eugenics programs and emulated some of them.
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They were influenced by Charles Davenport, an American. One can find some of his articles in early magazine journals of Psychology and scientific mags over at the HEARTH archives at Cornell. I don't recall the names, but there are there, and not that big a site.

The northern states had their own 'Back Codes', especially the Midwest. They strengthened them in the 1850's, and in Illinois, where Lincoln helped pass them, making it impossible for black people to make a living legally there. They also had slavery, via renting 'convicts' out as labor to farmers and factory owners. Many thousands of 'freed' slaves perished in 'Contraband camps' during the war, some estimates run as high as a million, even though they could have easily dispersed them along the river networks and rail networks. That probably also inspired the Nazis, as did Sherman's butchery in his 'March'.
 
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Oozlefinch said:
The thing is, many of those laws still existed in other areas of Europe. Hence the "Ghettos" of countries like Poland. Laws and institutions like that had died off in Germany because of the Kaiser. Hitler simply used Jim Crowe to find a way to bring them back into a "Modern Democracy".



That was hardly unique. A great many in that era believed the Indians to be the "Lost Tribe" of Israel. To the Mormons, they are the Lamanites.

A lot of Europeans looked at the more "European" facial features of the East Coast Indians, and believed them to be descendants of voyagers from across the Atlantic. Look at pictures and drawings of say Mohawk or other Eastern tribes, they look much more European than those from say the Penutian or West Coast tribes.

You even have some debating this even today, as you have the "Asia Immigration Only" believers, trying to suppress any data collected that support the Solutreans theory (that the immigration came in both directions, with the European being earlier, but the Asian being larger). Even though increasingly we are finding ancient roots of Soultrean DNA has it's roots in Europe. But because of politicization, many try to pass it off as either early groups that went all the way from Europe to America through Asia, or even co-evolution of identical genetic groups.

Ignoring things like tools that existed at the earliest on the East Coast which had first been developed in Europe, and that a key genetic marker (Haplogroup R1) is almost exclusively found in Europe, and is also found in high numbers in East Coast Indians, but decreases as you move West.

Even under modern studies, the Algonquin Nation members to the Germans would likely be Aryan. But the Stillaguamish Tribe of Washington likely would not be, nor the Inuit.
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Don't know much about genetics, myself, and I recall Hitler loved American westerns and was a fan of Indians, but I don't recall his considering any of them 'Aryans'.

In any case, I remember Barry Fell, the Harvard linguist, wrote a couple of books on what he believed were the ancient Greek an middle eastern roots of many Indian dialects of North America, America, B.C is one iirc, and I can't remember the second one; I do remember he made a decent case for his theories, though.
 
Zachariah said:
Don't know much about genetics, myself, and I recall Hitler loved American westerns and was a fan of Indians, but I don't recall his considering any of them 'Aryans'.

In any case, I remember Barry Fell, the Harvard linguist, wrote a couple of books on what he believed were the ancient Greek an middle eastern roots of many Indian dialects of North America, America, B.C is one iirc, and I can't remember the second one; I do remember he made a decent case for his theories, though.
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Languages can be a hard thing to trace, especially as the Indians had left behind no written records until fairly recently in the archaeological record. This is very different from Asia-Europe-Africa, which had written records stretching back thousands of years, when most of the human population was still nomadic.

All we have are fragments at most, from only a few tribes and civilizations, not enough to make a reasonable tree of the transition of words from one to another over hundreds, let alone thousands of years. So it is impossible to tell where a word came from moving from Europe or Asia tens of thousands of years ago, and more recent "contamination" from Phoenician, Norse, or European travelers.
 
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