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Was Jesus the First Republican?

The Mark said:
This thread title is silly, the definition of "republican" has changed over time, and probably differs depending on the individual you ask.

So which era of republican are we talking, here?
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no changes actually. Since Plato and Aristotle the battle in human history has been between freedom and government. Do you understand?
 
James972 said:
no changes actually. Since Plato and Aristotle the battle in human history has been between freedom and government. Do you understand?
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If you're arguing that Republicans haven't changed since their establishment, I want some proof.
 
The Mark said:
If you're arguing that Republicans haven't changed since their establishment, I want some proof.
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I"m arguing that there are 2 main ideas in human history: freedom and govt. Do you understand?
 
James972 said:
I"m arguing that there are 2 main ideas in human history: freedom and govt. Do you understand?
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I understand that you're arguing that.

I don't think I agree, though.

It's entirely possible, IMO, to combine freedom and government, because government is how you ensure freedom against those who would take it away - assuming you can keep government in line.
 
Oh noes!

I think Jesus just kicked the Republican's to the curb...........

Naughty Republicans. Jesus is gonna spank y'all.
 
The Mark said:
I don't think I agree, though.

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so then why did you forget to tell us what the battle in human history is about if not freedom versus govt??
 
The Mark said:
government is how you ensure freedom.
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of course but our subject is not how you ensure it but whether main battle in history is govt versus freedom?


notice how govt and freedom are presented as opposites?
Thomas Jefferson:
The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground.
 
James972 said:
of course but our subject is not how you ensure it but whether main battle in history is govt versus freedom?


notice how govt and freedom are presented as opposites?
Thomas Jefferson:
The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground.
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Now james boy says that Sanders is a socialist because anything with social in the name makes them a commie , something you don't even know the meaning of. Good Good Good, this is Another chance to show what stupid is/ Ok bring back your main tenets of socialism james that you wrote down for me, with their source of course. and with those tenet show us how Sanders is a socialist. This is so much fun .again he will show all of us that he has no clue. he will disappear or he will try to bull**** his way through this or he will try to change the subject and guess what I won't let him. Do you understand?
 
jbander said:
Now james boy says that Sanders is a socialist because anything with social in the name makes them a commie
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actually no, I say he's a socialist because he says he's a socialist an I believe him. Do you understand now?
 
James972 said:
actually no, I say he's a socialist because he says he's a socialist an I believe him. Do you understand now?
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You said you could prove it so go ahead and prove it ---Good Good Good, this is Another chance to show what stupid is/ Ok bring back your main tenets of socialism that you wrote down for me with their source of course. and with those tenet show us how Sanders is a socialist. This is so much fun .again he will show all of us that he has no clue. he will disappear or he will try to bull**** his way through this or he will try to change the subject and guess what I won't let him." we will now wait for him to come back blithering nonsense about God know what, but I promise you it will be funny. Do you understand now???????????????????????????????????????
 
James do you understand now???????
 
James has no clue, this is the problem with people who don't have a clue ,Most people who can think know the main tenets of socialism and in knowing that they realize that sanders has none of the main tenets of socialism in his thinking or politics. but you then have the other group that just says anything , lie, distort, twist reality anything at all and expect people to respect their opinion. That person I will guaranty wont support their bull****.
 
James972 said:
no he cut Caesar in half by saying give to Caesar what is his to God what is his. This was a huge an attack on the liberal statist central govt
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silly nonsense
 
James972 said:
yes he taught personal including to love God not liberal statist rulers on earth
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nobody is interested in your God or any right wing God because your simply part of a very large hate group in this country and guess what God won't have anything to do with supporting your non stop hate.
 
james do you understand now????
 
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