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Trump & The NPP

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Trump glows in Nobel Peace Prize chatter
By Rebecca Kheel - 05/01/18 05:12 PM EDT

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/385735-trump-glows-in-nobel-peace-prize-chatter

Over the years, I posted messages critical of the history of Nobel Peace Prizes. Calling it a Peace Prize is a misnomer to begin with because the PP is often awarded for salesmanship rather than achievement. To put it more succinctly it is based on selling the absence of war rather than predicated on preventing governments from engaging in institutional murder.

Remember that Obama got a Nobel Peace Prize for his touchy-feely rhetoric. The things he did, namely getting New START ratified, is more than the rhetoric of a demagogue. His betrayals justify his Nobel to the International community if not to Americans.

Nobel Peace Prizes now favor environmental hustlers. Gorbachev founded Green Cross International. The best Gorby joke is that he got his PP for getting booted out on his rear end by his own people.

Wangari Maathai founded the Green Belt Movement, and top global warming hustler Al Gore shared his 2007 prize with the U.N.’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. A couple more environmental winners and they can name a new category: Nobel Prize for Environmental Bullcrap?

When Ronald Reagan led the fight that defeated the Soviet Union it was a bold stroke for peace, yet no Peace Prize was forthcoming.

Since the end of WWI people with a connection to the League of Nations and its successor, the U.N., have probably won more Nobel Peace Prizes than the New York Yankees won pennants. Maybe that is the reason the world is far from peaceful!

There is no doubt that global government advocates have always had the inside track to Nobel Peace Prizes going all the way back to the early nineteen-hundreds; Socialism’s early years in the U.S. as well as awarding the first Nobel Peace Prize in 1901. I doubt very much if anyone who believed in a world of sovereign nations ever had a chance of winning a Nobel Peace Prize.

The PP is clearly a political trophy. No one denies it. The Nobel Peace Prize, awarded by the NORWEGIAN parliament, has always been recognized as a political award:



The commonly held view is that Alfred Nobel feared that the highly political nature of the Peace Prize would make it a tool in power politics and thereby reduce its significance as an instrument for peace; so he willed his PP to the Norwegian parliament.

Peace Prize winners should never be held in the same high esteem as those who get theirs for actually doing something useful in the exact sciences. I have the utmost respect for the men and women who win a Nobel Prize for physics, chemistry, physiology, or medicine

I refuse to give literature and economics the same respect the exact sciences deserve. Literature is especially troubling. Toni Morrison, black American woman and Nobel Prize Winner for literature (1993) was the first person to see through Bill Clinton’s white epidermis. “Clinton is the first black American president” was a Morrison epiphany. (Obama ran under false pretenses if Morrison is correct about Clinton.) The troubling thing about Nobel prizes for literature is that people who think like Morrison write books.

If the prize for literature is a political joke the prize for economics is five acts of vaudeville.

The first Nobel Prize in Economics was awarded in 1969. In other words it was invented. Alfred Nobel never heard of it. The joke is that the award for the Nobel Prize in Economics is paid by the Sveriges Riksbank.


Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences - Wikipedia

The Sveriges Riksbank pays the Nobel Foundation for the use of the name. The reason is obvious. Nobel Prize for Economics sounds better than Sveriges Riksbank Prize for Economics. It is like Betty Crocker paying a fee to the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences so they can call a baking award an Oscar. A prize awarded by a European bank is more obscene than the propaganda prizes for “peace” and literature.

If President Trump actually gets the prize he should tell the Nobel Committee “I accept. Send the check and forget the rest.”

Finally, President Trump is in trouble when Nutso is pulling for him:


Even Pelosi Admits Trump Could Qualify for Nobel Peace Prize: ‘Let’s See How It Goes’
TRE GOINS-PHILLIPS
APR 30, 2018 | 12:59 PM

https://ijr.com/ijr-red/2018/04/1090042-nancy-pelosi-trump-nobel-peace-prize/
 

Even Pelosi Admits Trump Could Qualify for Nobel Peace Prize: ‘Let’s See How It Goes’
TRE GOINS-PHILLIPS
APR 30, 2018 | 12:59 PM

https://ijr.com/ijr-red/2018/04/1090042-nancy-pelosi-trump-nobel-peace-prize/


John McCain’s lapdog is dead wrong:


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Lindsey Graham Says Liberals Would 'Kill Themselves' if Trump Wins Nobel Peace Prize
TRE GOINS-PHILLIPS | MAY 1, 2018 | 5:21 PM

https://ijr.com/ijr-red/2018/05/1090815-lindsey-graham-trump-peace-prize/

Every Socialist/Communist in the world is praying that Trump wins because his award would glorify every Nobel Peace Prize. To be precise there have been a few good ones mixed in with the others.

George C. Marshall and Mother Teresa were two of the good Peace Prize winners; so it is really upsetting to see their names on a list that also includes characters like Woodrow Wilson, Jimmy Carter, Albert Schweitzer, Nasser Arafat, Goofy Annan, Nelson Mandela, Mikhail Gorbachev, Mohamed ElBaradei, Al Gore, and Barack Obama.


NOTE: Agent 006 & 7/8ths reported that the Norwgians wanted to give Obama a second one, while the Swedes wanted him to return the first one:

One Last Treasonous Act=> Obama Approves Uranium Shipment to Iran – Enough to Build 10 Nuclear Weapons
Jim Hoft
Jan 9th, 2017 12:00 pm

Just a moment...

Here are a few winners the global government crowd simply adores:

Ralph Bunche (1904 - 1971) got his PP in 1950 for his work on the United Nations Palestine Commission. In light of what is happening over there these days his heirs should return the money.

Another “winner” worth mentioning is Philip John Noel-Baker (1889-1982), a British politician who helped draft the Covenant of the League of Nations (1919) and, also, the United Nations Charter (1945). League of Nation global villagers were determined not to be denied success the second time around. Still promoting the same old Wilsonian crapola they moved their desks over to the United Nations in 1945. In short: Same jockey —— different horse. Noel-Baker won the 1959 Nobel Peace Prize.

When Wangari Maathai (1940 - 2011) won the Nobel Peace Prize in 2004 she was identified as a “Kenyan ecologist.” She won the PP for her work in human Rights and reversing deforestation across Africa.

NOTE: Human Rights is a catchall term Socialists love to throw around. Every Third World human Right must be paid for with First World tax dollars according to the United Nations.

I knew what a Kenyan was, but I was not sure what an ecologist did? I soon learned that stopping deforestation was another environmental con job on par with global warming.

Environmental wack jobs are one thing, but nobody moved Wangari over to the screwball column when she said the West created HIV in a lab. I do not know if that unproven charge was considered by the Nobel Awards Committee along with human Rights and the evils of deforestation. I do know that if a real scientist made such a statement without proof he or she would be ostracized by fellow scientists.

NOTE: A fair guestimate of the number of people who ever hear of the Nobel PP is less than 2 percent of the 6 billion adults in the world. The number of people who care drops to a minute fraction of 1 percent.

It came as no surprise to see that the 1981 winner in economics was James Tobin of Tobin Tax fame. Mr. Tobin claimed he was for free markets at the same time he was a big supporter of globalization —— globalization being code talk for giving the U.N. taxing authority over the American people, as well as putting central control in the U.N.’s hands. Am I the only one that sees a big contradiction there?

In any event the prize in economics is as political, and as meaningless to most Americans as is the Nobel Peace Prize and Nobel Prize for Literature.

Parenthetically, economists always remind me of priests. The only significant difference between the two is that religious missionaries preach to the masses while economists preach to those who control the masses.

Not to be outdone by men of the cloth, economists convinced First World governments that economists are the only ones who know enough about money to talk about it in the halls of power. I am probably being unfair on this point. One cannot seriously expect congressional committees to seek testimony from people working for a minimum wage. The justification for such testimony would be hampered by an overabundance of available witnesses.
 
Too long and politically motivated. Not competent as a subject of history.
 
When Ronald Reagan led the fight that defeated the Soviet Union it was a bold stroke for peace, yet no Peace Prize was forthcoming.

This is an interesting review that might encourage one or two to read the book. I might read it just to see if Bret Baier mentions the Nobel Peace Prize:

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Students are right without a reason:



Every Socialist/Communist in the world is praying that Trump wins because his award would glorify every Nobel Peace Prize.

Governors are not doing Trump a favor:

S.C. Gov. Henry McMaster is joining the push to get President Donald Trump a Nobel Peace Prize.

McMaster is one of seven Republican governors who wrote Monday to the Nobel committee in Norway, asking it to consider Trump for the prize, to be awarded later this year.​

SC Gov. McMaster is getting other governors to nominate Trump for Nobel Peace Prize
By Bristow Marchant
May 15, 2018 10:40 AM
Updated 11 hours 17 minutes ago

How SC Gov. Henry McMaster could get Trump the Nobel Prize | The State

Not giving Trump the PP is the best thing the Nobel Committee can do for him.
 
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