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"Russian" Revolution at 100: Awkward for Putin?&whats is Communism for you?

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do you agree with CNN? and whats is Communism for you?,

PS by the way it was not any "Revolution" at that day...



"8 mars 2017 - The 100-year anniversary of the Russian "Revolution" is an awkward moment for Vladimir Putin, who would rather not remind people of the ... "
Russian Revolution at 100: Awkward for Putin? - CNN
 
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an awkward moment for Vladimir Putin...

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Litwin said:
an awkward moment for Vladimir Putin...


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Strange, contradictory, and possibly anti-Semitic propaganda. its wise not to believe everything your teachers and the media tell you.
 
Starvos said:
You're aware that the holodmor was not "man made" right? There's no evidence to suggest it was a genocide.It was due to bad weather and kulaks horading crops and killing livestock
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i knew a person who saw it with own eyes, and it was a pure hell . whats about Kurapaty ? also "not man made", as more commies i read as more i get understanding in actions of rightist paramilitary in Latin America, they do great job actually on you guys , you guys have 0 soul
 
Starvos said:
You're aware that the holodmor was not "man made" right? There's no evidence to suggest it was a genocide.It was due to bad weather and kulaks horading crops and killing livestock
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Oh my god. People are still spewing this rubbish?
 
Litwin said:
i knew a person who saw it with own eyes, and it was a pure hell . whats about Kurapaty ? also "not man made", as more commies i read as more i get understanding in actions of rightist paramilitary in Latin America, they do great job actually on you guys , you guys have 0 soul
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Don't care about anecdotes. Are you actually supporting the contras? The right wing death swuad who committed mass rape and genocide of over 40,000 people? How hypocritical. Denounce "genocide" when it doesn't fit YOUR narrative.
 
Starvos said:
Don't care about anecdotes. Are you actually supporting the contras? The right wing death swuad who committed mass rape and genocide of over 40,000 people? How hypocritical. Denounce "genocide" when it doesn't fit YOUR narrative.
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you dont care about my family, i´d care about commie- terrorists killed somewhere in jungles Latin America , you must be joking ...

"commie anecdotes. " in pictures :

The communist cannibals: Shocking images reveal the depravation suffered by peasants forced to eat HUMANS during the 1920s Russian famine

The "Russian" famine of 1921–22, also known as Povolzhye famine, occurred in Bolshevik Russia
It began in early spring of 1921 and lasted through 1922
Civil war and Lenin's policy of seizing food from peasants caused the devastating man-made famine
Around 30 million people were affected and around five million died
WARNING: Distressing images
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Photos show how 1920s Russian famine turned peasants into cannibals | Daily Mail Online
"A starving woman fed her dead daughter to her surviving children to keep them alive in"
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https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2501517/pictures-human-body-parts-cannibals-russian-famine-1921-1922/
 
Starvos said:
You're aware that the holodmor was not "man made" right? There's no evidence to suggest it was a genocide.It was due to bad weather and kulaks horading crops and killing livestock
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This makes you no better than an actual nazi, right?



Like a holocaust denier,.
 
calamity said:
Oh my god. People are still spewing this rubbish?
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+1, he sells himself as "humanist" even thought that all 100% women in GULAG were gang-banged raped many times , often to the death...

"The first posting about the Annals of Communism edited by Anne Applebaum gave a summary of the memoirs that gave a view into daily life in the camps called the Gulag, which was an acronym for the Soviet term, “Main Camp Administration.” This posting is about women in the camps. Most of the memoirs have descriptions that are difficult to read, but I consider these memoirs to be the most difficult. Women were gang raped and/or had to use sex to survive. There is a very brief mention that it wasn’t just women who were victimized. It is described that sexual depravity was rampant, and that raping men was common. My interpretation is that the brutally inhumane conditions and treatment of the people resulted in destruction of their health, but also destroyed the humanity of many if not most of the prisoners. The memoirs of Elena Glinka and Hava Volovich are particularly disturbing.

Elena Glinka was a young engineer when she was arrested in 1950 and imprisoned for six years. She talked little about her experiences. There is a description of how women on a prison transport ship were raped, killed, and thrown overboard. Elena’s third-person memoir, the “Kolyma Tram,” describes how the prisoners gave the guards alcohol until they were in a drunken stupor after the word spread that women had arrived in the camp. (No explanation is given why they had access to so much alcohol.) The prisoners threw rags on the ground for makeshift bedding, lined up, and began to rape the women. One prisoner was the “Kolyma Tram driver.” He would shout, “Mount Up!” to signal it was the next man’s turn until the driver shouted “Show’s over!” Women who died were dragged to a pile of bodies while survivors were doused with water. The lines then formed again. Elena was spared the treatment of the other women. She was young and pretty, and the camp boss chose her for himself. She “…thanked God that she’d become the property of just one."

Gulag Voices, Women in the Gulag | RockyFlatsFacts.com
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
This makes you no better than an actual nazi, right?



Like a holocaust denier,.
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and this commie from NY, call the biggest tragedy of 20c. for "anecdotes"



""Red Famine: Stalin's War on Ukraine" by Anne Applebaum"
 
Litwin said:
+1, he sells himself as "humanist" even thought that all 100% women in GULAG were gang-banged raped many times , often to the death...

"The first posting about the Annals of Communism edited by Anne Applebaum gave a summary of the memoirs that gave a view into daily life in the camps called the Gulag, which was an acronym for the Soviet term, “Main Camp Administration.” This posting is about women in the camps. Most of the memoirs have descriptions that are difficult to read, but I consider these memoirs to be the most difficult. Women were gang raped and/or had to use sex to survive. There is a very brief mention that it wasn’t just women who were victimized. It is described that sexual depravity was rampant, and that raping men was common. My interpretation is that the brutally inhumane conditions and treatment of the people resulted in destruction of their health, but also destroyed the humanity of many if not most of the prisoners. The memoirs of Elena Glinka and Hava Volovich are particularly disturbing.

Elena Glinka was a young engineer when she was arrested in 1950 and imprisoned for six years. She talked little about her experiences. There is a description of how women on a prison transport ship were raped, killed, and thrown overboard. Elena’s third-person memoir, the “Kolyma Tram,” describes how the prisoners gave the guards alcohol until they were in a drunken stupor after the word spread that women had arrived in the camp. (No explanation is given why they had access to so much alcohol.) The prisoners threw rags on the ground for makeshift bedding, lined up, and began to rape the women. One prisoner was the “Kolyma Tram driver.” He would shout, “Mount Up!” to signal it was the next man’s turn until the driver shouted “Show’s over!” Women who died were dragged to a pile of bodies while survivors were doused with water. The lines then formed again. Elena was spared the treatment of the other women. She was young and pretty, and the camp boss chose her for himself. She “…thanked God that she’d become the property of just one."

Gulag Voices, Women in the Gulag | RockyFlatsFacts.com
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Yep. Horrible stuff to be sure.
 
RED TERROR

In the Crimea, Béla Kun and Rosalia Zemlyachka, with Vladimir Lenin's approval,[17] had 50,000 White prisoners of war and civilians summarily executed via shooting or hanging after the defeat of general Pyotr Nikolayevich Wrangel at the end of 1920. They had been promised amnesty if they would surrender.[18] This is one of the largest massacres in the Civil War.[19]

On 16 March 1919, all military detachments of the Cheka were combined in a single body, the Troops for the Internal Defense of the Republic, which numbered 200,000 in 1921. These troops policed labor camps, ran the Gulag system, conducted requisitions of food, and put down peasant rebellions, riots by workers, and mutinies in the Red Army (which was plagued by desertions).[2]


The bitter struggle was described succinctly from the Bolshevik point of view by Grigory Zinoviev in mid-September 1918:

To overcome our enemies we must have our own socialist militarism. We must carry along with us 90 million out of the 100 million of Soviet Russia's population. As for the rest, we have nothing to say to them. They must be annihilated.
— Grigory Zinoviev, 1918[10]


Martin Latsis, chief of the Ukrainian Cheka, stated in the newspaper Red Terror:

Do not look in the file of incriminating evidence to see whether or not the accused rose up against the Soviets with arms or words. Ask him instead to which class he belongs, what is his background, his education, his profession. These are the questions that will determine the fate of the accused. That is the meaning and essence of the Red Terror.
— Martin Latsis, Red Terror[9]
 



"This panel focuses on the October Revolution and early Soviet era. It reassesses after fifty years the first “revisionist” and standard interpretations and looks at the Bolshevik Revolution in world perspective. Western post-war analysis of the October revolution and place the revolution in a global and geopolitical perspective. Early Western post-war analysis of the October Revolution and the early Bolshevik regime differed from mid-Soviet-era Russian interpretations, which viewed the outcomes as a mass movement led and carefully planned and executed by the Bolsheviks. Western historians still affirmed Bolshevik leadership, indeed, manipulation of events. From the late 1960s and 1970s, revisionists emphasized the social, or bottom-up, trends in the October revolution and continued to focus on the two “polarizations”--of state and society and of social classes. Finally, the panel also draws on the history of the larger Revolution, including February, global comparisons of the impact of geopolitics on revolution. Issues for Discussion:  How do revolutions end? Is this a problem for historians as well as revolutionaries?  What made the October Revolution work?  As in the 1930s, global leadership in the economy seems to be shifting toward China and away from older, weaker democratic states, Will the world in the 2030s look increasingly like it did a century earlier?"
 
Starvos said:
You're aware that the holodmor was not "man made" right? There's no evidence to suggest it was a genocide.It was due to bad weather and kulaks horading crops and killing livestock
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BS. The 40-45k or so kulaks has already been stripped of their lands 10 years before the end of Lenin's death.
 
OldFatGuy said:
BS. The 40-45k or so kulaks has already been stripped of their lands 10 years before the end of Lenin's death.
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+ 1

ps

"The Kazakh famine of 1930–1933, known in Kazakhstan as the Goloshchekin genocide (Kazakh: Голощекиндік геноцид),[4] also known as the Kazakh catastrophe,[7] was a man-made famine where 1.5 million (possibly as many as 2.0–2.3 million) people died in Soviet Kazakhstan, of whom 1.3 million were ethnic Kazakhs; 38% of all Kazakhs died, the highest number of any ethnic grouped killed in the Soviet famines of the early 1930s.[8][2]

It was the most severe of all regions affected by famine, percentage-wise, though more people died in the Ukrainian Holodomor, which began a year later.[9] In addition to the Kazakh famine of 1919–1922, in 10–15 years Kazakhstan lost more than half of its population due to the actions of the Soviet power.[10] [11] Some historians assume that 42% of the entire Kazakh population died in the famine.[12] The two Soviet censuses show that the number of the Kazakhs in Kazakhstan dropped from 3,637,612 in 1926 to 2,181,520 in 1937.[13]

The famine made Kazakhs a minority in the Kazakh ASSR, and not until the 1990s did Kazakhs become the largest group in Kazakhstan again. Before the famine, around 60% of the republic's population were Kazakhs, but after the famine, only around 38% of the population were Kazakhs.[3][4][5][6]

Some historians and scholars consider that this famine amounted to genocide of the Kazakhs.[14]"
 
As for me, the Bolshevik revolution was a great experiment, which showed that the communist theories of Karl Marx and Vladimir Lenin turned out to be false and did not lead to anything. Countries that tried to follow the path of communism, as a rule, ended up with great hardships and losses in the cultural, economic and moral spheres. There was also a paranoia that led to mass repression and the destruction of the widest strata of the population.

The only advantage for humanity in the experience of the communist countries can be considered only that they showed the way where should not to go. As they say in science, "a negative result is also a result."
 
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