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"Putin: First Soviet government was mostly Jewish", putting all blame for Kurapty, GULAG, "RED TERRO

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"Putin: First Soviet government was mostly Jewish", putting all blame for Kurapty, GULAG, "RED TERRO

"Putin: First Soviet government was mostly Jewish", putting all blame for Kurapty, GULAG, "RED TERROR", HOLODOMOR, etc. on the Jews .

does it mean that the pogroms are just matter of time?




Putin: First Soviet government was mostly Jewish | The Times of Israel
https://www.timesofisrael.com/putin-first-soviet-government-wa...

JTA — Russian President Vladimir Putin said that at least 80 percent of the ... The decision to nationalize this library was made by the first Soviet government, ...
80% of the first Soviet government members were Jews -Putin during ...

▶ 0:49
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pDtgWUtdUM
More daily reality snacks at: Russia Insider: Crowdfunded citizen journalism - with a punch! Russian president says predominantly Jewish Soviet ...
 
Re: "Putin: First Soviet government was mostly Jewish", putting all blame for Kurapty, GULAG, "RED T

Putin´s communist party (KPRF) blames The Jews for GULAG and Stalinist killings.


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Why KPRF does it? comments?

""Gulag - was also (in the part of leadership) staffed by Yagoda (a Jew, its KPRF´s main point ) on a national basis.

The chief of the Main Directorate of Camps and Settlements was at that time MD. Berman. His deputy - SG. Rapoport.
The head of the White Sea camps was LI. Kogan.
The chief of the White Sea-Baltic camp (construction of the canal) was S.G. Firin.
Head of the Main Directorate of Prisons of the NKVD of the USSR was H. Apert.
Head of camps in the territory of the Ukrainian SSR were S.B. Katznelson, then Balitsky.
Head of the camps of the Northern Regions was Finkelstein.
Head of the camps of the Sverdlovsk region was Shklyar.
The chief of the camps in the territory of the Kazakh SSR was Pauline.
The head of the camps in Western Siberia was Shabo first, then Gogel.
Head of the Azov-Chernomorsky district camps was Friedberg.
The chief of camps of the Saratov region was Pilar.
In the Stalingrad region, the camps were in charge of Paradise, in the Gorky region - Abrampolsky, in the North Caucasus - Fayvilovich, in Bashkiria - Zaligman, in the Far East - Deribas, in Belarus - Leplevsky.

in general Yagoda´s Jews commanded and practically carried out repression in 95% of GULAG camps. The main contingent of prisoners in these camps were Russian people, Ukrainians, Belarusians, Caucasians ... ""

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Re: "Putin: First Soviet government was mostly Jewish", putting all blame for Kurapty, GULAG, "RED T

"Putin: First Soviet government was mostly Jewish", putting all blame for Kurapty, GULAG, "RED TERROR", HOLODOMOR, etc. on the Jews .

does it mean that the pogroms are just matter of time?




Putin: First Soviet government was mostly Jewish | The Times of Israel
https://www.timesofisrael.com/putin-first-soviet-government-wa...

JTA — Russian President Vladimir Putin said that at least 80 percent of the ... The decision to nationalize this library was made by the first Soviet government, ...
80% of the first Soviet government members were Jews -Putin during ...

▶ 0:49
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-pDtgWUtdUM
More daily reality snacks at: Russia Insider: Crowdfunded citizen journalism - with a punch! Russian president says predominantly Jewish Soviet ...

mind is officially blown!

It's not often I'm surprised at what I read on the internet, but your post qualifies - well done!
 
Re: "Putin: First Soviet government was mostly Jewish", putting all blame for Kurapty, GULAG, "RED T

mind is officially blown!

It's not often I'm surprised at what I read on the internet, but your post qualifies - well done!

this explains everything:

"How a "Russian" Fascist Is Meddling in America’s Election

By TIMOTHY SNYDER


NEW HAVEN — The president of Russia, Vladimir V. Putin, once described the collapse of the Soviet Union as a “geopolitical catastrophe.” But the political thinker who today has the most influence on Mr. Putin’s Russia is not Vladimir Lenin, the founder of the Communist system, but rather Ivan Ilyin, a prophet of Russian fascism.

The brilliant political philosopher has been dead for more than 60 years, but his ideas have found new life in post-Soviet Russia. After 1991, his books were republished with long print runs. President Putin began to cite him in his annual speech to the Federal Assembly, the Russian equivalent of the State of the Union address.

To complete the rehabilitation, Mr. Putin saw to it that Ilyin’s corpse was repatriated from Switzerland, and that his archive was returned from Michigan. The Russian president has been seen laying flowers on Ilyin’s Moscow grave. And Mr. Putin is not the only disciple of Ilyin among the Kremlin elite.

Vladislav Y. Surkov, Moscow’s arch-propagandist
, also sees Ilyin as an authority. Prime Minister Dmitri A. Medvedev, who served as president between 2008 and 2012, recommends Ilyin to Russian students. Ilyin figures in the speeches of the foreign minister, the head of the constitutional court and the patriarch of the Orthodox Church.

What are the ideas that have inspired such esteem?....


Ilyin looked on Mussolini and Hitler as exemplary leaders who were saving Europe by dissolving democracy. His 1927 article “On Russian Fascism” was addressed to “My White brothers, the fascists.” Later, in the 1940s and ’50s, he provided the outlines for a constitution of a fascist Holy Russia governed by a “national dictator” who would be “inspired by the spirit of totality.”....
"

more is here

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/21/...fascist-is-meddling-in-americas-election.html
 
Re: "Putin: First Soviet government was mostly Jewish", putting all blame for Kurapty, GULAG, "RED T

The Soviet government was not mostly Jewish, that is Nazi propaganda. Only 6% of the communist party at the time was Jewish. This is misleading and racist propaganda
 
Re: "Putin: First Soviet government was mostly Jewish", putting all blame for Kurapty, GULAG, "RED T

The Soviet government was not mostly Jewish, that is Nazi propaganda. Only 6% of the communist party at the time was Jewish. This is misleading and racist propaganda

what else can you do expect from an Ilyinist ?

"Mr. Putin saw to it that Ilyin’s corpse was repatriated from Switzerland, and that his archive was returned from Michigan. The Russian president has been seen laying flowers on Ilyin’s Moscow grave. And Mr. Putin is not the only disciple of Ilyin among the Kremlin elite.

Vladislav Y. Surkov, Moscow’s arch-propagandist, also sees Ilyin as an authority. Prime Minister Dmitri A. Medvedev, who served as president between 2008 and 2012, recommends Ilyin to Russian students. Ilyin figures in the speeches of the foreign minister, the head of the constitutional court and the patriarch of the Orthodox Church.

What are the ideas that have inspired such esteem?....


Ilyin looked on Mussolini and Hitler as exemplary leaders who were saving Europe by dissolving democracy. His 1927 article “On Russian Fascism” was addressed to “My White brothers, the fascists.” Later, in the 1940s and ’50s, he provided the outlines for a constitution of a fascist Holy Russia governed by a “national dictator” who would be “inspired by the spirit of totality.”..."
 
Re: "Putin: First Soviet government was mostly Jewish", putting all blame for Kurapty, GULAG, "RED T

The actual executive decision to begin the Soviet Communist takeover phase of the Russian Revolution
was made in October 1917 by the 7-member first Politburo, whose members were:

(in order of historical importance during the revolutionary era)

Lenin
Trotsky
Stalin
Kamenev
Zinoviev
Sokolnikov

Bubnov

Of these, the 4 highlighted in bold red were of Jewish ancestry- 57% of the total. Although 4 of 7 is 57%,
well short of 80%, it must be over 20 times more than the proportion of Jews in the total population.

The vote to proceed was close, with Lenin, Trotsky, Sokolnimov and Bubnov voting “yes”, Kamenev and Zinoviev
voting “no”, and Stalin abstaining.

I speculate that the Jews’ relative preponderance was due to their relative alienation. They were then among
the largest of non-Christian demographics of the Russian empire, perhaps the largest, and they had for generations
been the target of government persecution and of mob violence.
 
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