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Socialized health care exposed.

I think you would agree it's better to have insurance than not have it.


Time for universal coverage. I like the Canadian model with a few tweaks

Yes. its better to have universal coverage. We don't need to have single payer to do that.

You would hate the Canadian model if you have insurance in the US. . And it would never fly in America. 85% of americans would have worse insurance than they do now.
 
Yes. its better to have universal coverage. We don't need to have single payer to do that.

You would hate the Canadian model if you have insurance in the US. . And it would never fly in America. 85% of americans would have worse insurance than they do now.

Oooooh looky. You have an opinion. Lol
 
They will bleed you dry the rest of your life.


Only in America!!!!

Well..first..not true.. as I proved that Canada has medical bankruptcy.

So not only in America. AND so? Why shouldn't you have to pay your bills? Is it your expectation that you should say buy a car..and then not have to make the payments on it?
 
Well..first..not true.. as I proved that Canada has medical bankruptcy.

So not only in America. AND so? Why shouldn't you have to pay your bills? Is it your expectation that you should say buy a car..and then not have to make the payments on it?

Canadian medical bankruptcy is as rare as a good idea from trump. Lol


My expectation is my kid is educated thru high school and that be WITHOUT A BILL.


Our health should be handled in a similar fashion
 
Canadian medical bankruptcy is as rare as a good idea from trump. Lol
No.. as my post showed... Canadian medical bankruptcy was sighted by 15% of bankrupt seniors..

That's a lot more prevalent than a good idea from trump. In fact. I can only think of one good idea by trump in his presidency..

My expectation is my kid is educated thru high school and that be WITHOUT A BILL.

That's nice.. me too. and that will happen. However.... why would you not take care of your childs healthcare needs and expect your minor child to pay their way when it comes to medical bills?

Our health should be handled in a similar fashion
There is always a bill... healthcare isn't free.
 
No.. as my post showed... Canadian medical bankruptcy was sighted by 15% of bankrupt seniors..

That's a lot more prevalent than a good idea from trump. In fact. I can only think of one good idea by trump in his presidency..



That's nice.. me too. and that will happen. However.... why would you not take care of your childs healthcare needs and expect your minor child to pay their way when it comes to medical bills?

There is always a bill... healthcare isn't free.

Healthcare free at point of service. Single payer is a huge success.
 
Only in America can you be bankrupted just because you get sick.
That's right, you actually have a way to survive. The rest of the world your family just has to pay funeral costs, so no bankruptcy.

Only in America indeed, which is why everyone rushes to that country for high end healthcare, their own systems leave them to die (but hey, at least they are cheap right!). I'm speaking from experience, as I personally know Canadians who go to the US to get treatment, life saving treatment, that is not only not covered or not available, but not ALLOWED. And Canada is considered the good healthcare country from the list of socialized health care, and compared to the US, we absolutely suck.
 
That's right, you actually have a way to survive. The rest of the world your family just has to pay funeral costs, so no bankruptcy.

Only in America indeed, which is why everyone rushes to that country for high end healthcare, their own systems leave them to die (but hey, at least they are cheap right!). I'm speaking from experience, as I personally know Canadians who go to the US to get treatment, life saving treatment, that is not only not covered or not available, but not ALLOWED. And Canada is considered the good healthcare country from the list of socialized health care, and compared to the US, we absolutely suck.

Let's not be silly. Compare the US to any other first world nation....not Sudan. Lol

Only in America can you be bankrupted for being sick.

Rand paul just went to canada for treatment. So let's look at that....hes a doctor, hes rich, hes powerful and he can go anywhere in the world for treatment.


He went to canada
 
Let's not be silly. Compare the US to any other first world nation....not Sudan. Lol

Only in America can you be bankrupted for being sick.

Rand paul just went to canada for treatment. So let's look at that....hes a doctor, hes rich, hes powerful and he can go anywhere in the world for treatment.


He went to canada

Well.. except that I just proved that no.. not only in American can you be bankrupt for being sick.

In fact. you can go bankrupt for being sick in just about every other country.
 
Well.. except that I just proved that no.. not only in American can you be bankrupt for being sick.

In fact. you can go bankrupt for being sick in just about every other country.

No not really.
 
No not really.

See the research I linked to.

If you have some studies that show that people cannot go bankrupt for a medical illness in any other country but the US.. I'd love to see it.

Especially since most folks go bankrupt not because of medical bills but because of the loss of income when they are sick...

But supposedly you have some "facts"... pony up cowboy.
 
See the research I linked to.

If you have some studies that show that people cannot go bankrupt for a medical illness in any other country but the US.. I'd love to see it.

Especially since most folks go bankrupt not because of medical bills but because of the loss of income when they are sick...

But supposedly you have some "facts"... pony up cowboy.

Frazier institute? Lol


Nobody is going bankrupt in canada for legitimate cancer treatment
 
Well.. except that I just proved that no.. not only in American can you be bankrupt for being sick.

In fact. you can go bankrupt for being sick in just about every other country.

You neglect to mention the difference between going bankrupt due to unpaid medical bills or going bankrupt over unpaid bills. In other words they went bankrupt because they got sick and couldn't pay the mortgage, credit cards, etc. due to medical reasons. It's not the medical bill that caused the bankruptcy.
 
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Well..first..not true.. as I proved that Canada has medical bankruptcy.

So not only in America. AND so? Why shouldn't you have to pay your bills? Is it your expectation that you should say buy a car..and then not have to make the payments on it?

Yeah, you proved it's extremely rare in Canada. Nice job.

Buying a car is a choice. Healthcare is not a choice. How can a free market function properly without choice?
 
Yeah, you proved it's extremely rare in Canada. Nice job.

Buying a car is a choice. Healthcare is not a choice. How can a free market function properly without choice?

Actually.. the information I linked to showed that when the bankruptcy laws were apples to apples with Canada.. it happened at about the same rate.

I see.. so according to you.. buying food.. must be a "choice"... since its a free market system? Or do you think we need to socialize all grocery stores, and farms and meat and produce packaging plants?

What about shelter? Or clothing? They all function in the free market...

Or do you contend that its a choice whether a person has shelter.. or whether they want to wear clothing?
 
You neglect to mention the difference between going bankrupt due to unpaid medical bills or going bankrupt over unpaid bills. In other words they went bankrupt because they got sick and couldn't pay the mortgage, credit cards, etc. due to medical reasons. It's not the medical bill that caused the bankruptcy.

Actually I pointed out in other posts.. but yes.. that's the point.. in other countries people do go bankrupt for medical reasons.. and just like in this country.. the vast vast reason is because of the decrease in INCOME that the medical issue causes.. and not due to medical bills.
 
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