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    Re: Irrational rise in Healthcare Costs

    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    Yep.. and that laptop is really cheap.. that doctors education wasn't. And that education has been increasing. College costs have been rising 3 x the cost of inflation.

    And all those folks get paid right? So that means that you pay for that with your bill.

    Yeah.. I doubt that all of the expensive medical machines are made in china.. but.. one of the major expenses in that office is education.

    Tuition alone for a 2 year dental hygienist's education is about 23,000. That's not counting books, supplies and living expenses while going to school.

    The facts remain:
    Don't you just hate it when a poster edits your words for no other reason than to change the meaning and then presents them as if they have not been changed?
    We huh we'r we're it's it's a we're in the middle of a pandemic that has cost us more than 85,000 jobs as of today. Lives of billions of people. Millions of people. Millions of jobs. You know, we're in a position where, you know, we just got new unemployment insurance... -Joe Biden

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    Re: Irrational rise in Healthcare Costs

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    Don't you just hate it when a poster edits your words for no other reason than to change the meaning and then presents them as if they have not been changed?
    Nope.. never had that happen. I hate when posters divert the conversation from the discussion at hand... to something else because they don't have any logical response. It would be nice if they just said... "gee.. you make good points.. I never thought of that".

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    Re: Irrational rise in Healthcare Costs

    Quote Originally Posted by Aberration View Post
    Why not?
    Because the purpose of government is to help ensure life liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

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    Re: Irrational rise in Healthcare Costs

    Quote Originally Posted by vegas giants View Post
    Because the purpose of government is to help ensure life liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
    It is? Since when?
    “Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry.”
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    Re: Irrational rise in Healthcare Costs

    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    Nope.. never had that happen. I hate when posters divert the conversation from the discussion at hand... to something else because they don't have any logical response. It would be nice if they just said... "gee.. you make good points.. I never thought of that".
    I wouldn't know if you made any good points or not.

    As a matter of course, I don't even read posts in which the poster amputates parts of my post to which the response is made.
    We huh we'r we're it's it's a we're in the middle of a pandemic that has cost us more than 85,000 jobs as of today. Lives of billions of people. Millions of people. Millions of jobs. You know, we're in a position where, you know, we just got new unemployment insurance... -Joe Biden

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    Re: Irrational rise in Healthcare Costs

    Quote Originally Posted by Aberration View Post
    It is? Since when?
    Since I said so

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    Re: Irrational rise in Healthcare Costs

    Medical insurance industry specializes in under insurance thus forcing people into bankruptcy.......

    Be smart = if all one can afford is under insurance don't buy any. By the time the deducible is paid the policy basically useless.

    Put that monthly premium in a savings account then pay as you go it's far more efficient. It payment on demand is acceptable some clinics/doctors will offer reduced rates.

    Is under insurance worth thousands of dollars annually? ......NO

    Clinics keep insurance staff on the payroll to chase down the payments...... this ain't healthcare.

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    Re: Irrational rise in Healthcare Costs

    Quote Originally Posted by Razoo View Post
    Medical insurance industry specializes in under insurance thus forcing people into bankruptcy.......

    Be smart = if all one can afford is under insurance don't buy any. By the time the deducible is paid the policy basically useless.

    Put that monthly premium in a savings account then pay as you go it's far more efficient. It payment on demand is acceptable some clinics/doctors will offer reduced rates.

    Is under insurance worth thousands of dollars annually? ......NO

    Clinics keep insurance staff on the payroll to chase down the payments...... this ain't healthcare.
    This is absolutely positively not correct.

    If all you can afford is an insurance with a high deductible. Definitely buy it... because these policies almost always have a stop loss.. or out of pocket max... which means that instead of being on the hook for 75000 dollars when you get in a wreck with your fourwheeler… you are on the hook for maybe 7500 or 10,000.

    And you can make payments to pay it off. AND more importantly.. you are going to get better care.. because if you have NO insurance.. you are not going to get the therapies, the other things you may need for full recovery... because when a person has no insurance.. all they can get is the minimum to stabilize the patient.

    What you are advocating is pure foolishness.

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    Re: Irrational rise in Healthcare Costs

    Could have something to do with the rise in healthcare administrators.
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    Medicare and Medicaid were created in 1965 to make healthcare more affordable to those less able to afford it. Since 1970, the government has expanded its reach into healthcare with laws such as HIPAA, the HITECH act, and of course the affordable care act. At the state level, you also have certificate of need laws. Now obviously it will take some manpower in order to comply with all of those regulations. You also have a shortage of doctors which is not helped by the aging population or by the current pandemic. In 1910, the AMA managed to lobby congress into limiting the number of physicians per year at 100,000. 36 states restrict or prohibit midwifery from being used to deliver newborns.
    The Evil-Mongering Of The American Medical Association

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