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How government regulation destroyed the healthcare market in the US

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Without a doubt, the liberal regulatory state is the most evil thing the political left has imposed upon the American people. The regulatory state allows politically-connected capitalists to mercilessly price-gouge the American public, and nowhere is the gouging deeper than in what's left of the healthcare "market". The following short article written by an expat demonstrates the problem rather well:

Healthcare in the U.S. vs Healthcare Overseas


I have gout.

Sometimes the level of uric acid in my blood gets too high and I get very localized, very painful arthritis...

I take a dose of allopurinol every day. Anywhere in Latin America, I can buy it over the counter at almost any pharmacy, and it costs me about $7 for a month's supply.

I have a feeling that this price is amazingly cheap compared to U.S. prices for allopurinol, but I can't tell you for sure, because I can't get it in the U.S. without first spending close to $1,000.

For some reason, I can't just walk into a pharmacy in the U.S. and say, "I have gout, and I take allopurinol, 300 milligrams once a day. I'd like two months worth please."

The reason he can't is entirely due to government regulation.

Allopurinol is not an over-the-counter drug in the U.S. It requires a doctor's prescription, which requires an appointment with a doctor (ka-ching - that's the sound of the cash register). The doctor must order blood tests (ka-ching). Another appointment is needed to get the results of those tests (ka-ching). Somewhere in there, I have to figure out whether I want to go through the pain of trying to claim all this on my insurance or skip the life-sucking bureaucracy and pay for it out of pocket (ka-ching). Eventually a prescription will be written, and the allopurinol can be purchased at U.S. prices (ka-ching, ka-ching, ka-ching).

If I were stranded in the U.S. and running out of my inexpensive, over-the-counter, Latin American allopurinol, I'd be up the creek for days if not weeks and, I estimate, out about $1,000 after all the appointments and testing.

All due to government regulation. Here's another important part (which I bolded)

Then I realized that this is neither odd nor funny. It's what thousands of people have to do every day to be able to afford their necessary medications in the U.S. For most U.S. citizens in this regrettable situation, they'd typically head over the border to Mexico or Canada…but the fact is that almost every other country on the planet offers more affordable, more accessible medications than the U.S.

And this extends to general medical care as well. I've had same-day doctor appointments in Latin America. I've had same-day surgeries in Latin America. I've had house calls in Latin America.

The regulations which drastically increase the price of healthcare in the US were not demanded by the public, nor were they written by ignorant politicians - they were written by lobbyists from the healthcare industry in order to ass-rape the American public.
 
I agree that there is a problem. I don't think regulation is inherently bad; however, nothing you've posted has connected the dots between the "liberal" regulatory state - or whether such a thing even exists - and the regulations that drive up the costs of medical care and medications in the U.S.
 
Well it is en-par with normal business in the US... screw the consumer and give more money to the rich 1% business owners. Calling them "regulations" is a miss-definition.. more like punishment rules. Regulations in a normal country are there to protect the consumer, not hurt them..

And the worst regulations often come from the right, not the left.
 
Without a doubt, the liberal regulatory state is the most evil thing the political left has imposed upon the American people. The regulatory state allows politically-connected capitalists to mercilessly price-gouge the American public, and nowhere is the gouging deeper than in what's left of the healthcare "market". The following short article written by an expat demonstrates the problem rather well:

Healthcare in the U.S. vs Healthcare Overseas




The reason he can't is entirely due to government regulation.



All due to government regulation. Here's another important part (which I bolded)



The regulations which drastically increase the price of healthcare in the US were not demanded by the public, nor were they written by ignorant politicians - they were written by lobbyists from the healthcare industry in order to ass-rape the American public.

And all of this began with Republican progressivism during the first drug war in the USA....
 
Without a doubt, the liberal regulatory state is the most evil thing the political left has imposed upon the American people.

Don't you claim the "political left" is responsible for slavery and the kkk, "AOC is one dumb whore"?
 
I found it on line. It’s also a pet med. you can buy it from Chewey.com... maybe you will get a free squeaky toy! ;)

Bottom line, it’s out there. Why the domestic high prices I have no idea.
 
Without a doubt, the liberal regulatory state is the most evil thing the political left has imposed upon the American people. The regulatory state allows politically-connected capitalists to mercilessly price-gouge the American public, and nowhere is the gouging deeper than in what's left of the healthcare "market". The following short article written by an expat demonstrates the problem rather well:

Healthcare in the U.S. vs Healthcare Overseas




The reason he can't is entirely due to government regulation.



All due to government regulation. Here's another important part (which I bolded)



The regulations which drastically increase the price of healthcare in the US were not demanded by the public, nor were they written by ignorant politicians - they were written by lobbyists from the healthcare industry in order to ass-rape the American public.

Maybe that writer should go live in Latin America.
 
Many government regulations are put/kept in place to guarantee the profit of a middle man. Of course, they do not have that as their stated purpose but that is their "unintended" side effect. Many Texas court reporting actions/functions must now be eFiled making it necessary to use a lawyer (the only one's allowed to have eFile accounts) for simple reporting actions/functions which used to be able to be done by filling out a paper form available free (or for, at most, a $1 per page copy fee) from the county court clerk's office. Since the state legislators are mostly lawyers it is no shock that they write laws favorable to that profession.
 
Without a doubt, the liberal regulatory state is the most evil thing the political left has imposed upon the American people. The regulatory state allows politically-connected capitalists to mercilessly price-gouge the American public, and nowhere is the gouging deeper than in what's left of the healthcare "market". The following short article written by an expat demonstrates the problem rather well:

Healthcare in the U.S. vs Healthcare Overseas




The reason he can't is entirely due to government regulation.



All due to government regulation. Here's another important part (which I bolded)



The regulations which drastically increase the price of healthcare in the US were not demanded by the public, nor were they written by ignorant politicians - they were written by lobbyists from the healthcare industry in order to ass-rape the American public.

Sometimes you can find a drug sold OTC, at places like Tractor Supply, which is intended for farm/pet use but is identical in its active ingredients and can be dosed by body weight.
 
Then why do the Republicans love them some drug war?

Fair point. The drug war is socialism, it's a vile affront to personal liberty, and completely inconsistent with the constitution. Republicans who support the drug war are a disgrace and an embarrassment.
 
Fair point. The drug war is socialism, it's a vile affront to personal liberty, and completely inconsistent with the constitution. Republicans who support the drug war are a disgrace and an embarrassment.

The Repubs,including Trump, have zero plans to dismantle the war on it's socialism, (please tell me you are not a political science grad..)
 
i hope that people will learn that depending on employers to provide insurance during a pandemic is ****ing stupid. COBRA is massively expensive. i know. i've done it multiple times.

single payer now.
 
The Repubs,including Trump, have zero plans to dismantle the war on it's socialism, (please tell me you are not a political science grad..)

Socialism is public ownership/control of the means of production. The law that created the drug war is literally called the Controlled Substances Act.

I had great hopes for Trump regarding the drug war, but he let me down:

trump on drugs.jpg
 
Socialism is public ownership/control of the means of production. The law that created the drug war is literally called the Controlled Substances Act.

I had great hopes for Trump regarding the drug war, but he let me down:

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If you've followed Trump since 1990 you don't have a life.
 
You don't "protect" adults by restricting their choices.

LOL they are restricting them for profit... regulations should be promoting choices, but that is against the GOPs backers bottom line. Why do you think the insurance and hospital industry do everything in their power to discourage competition? Why do you think the GOP hates Obamacare so much?
 
LOL they are restricting them for profit... regulations should be promoting choices, but that is against the GOPs backers bottom line.

Government regulation can only restrict choices, it cannot expand or "promote" them, whatever that means.

Why do you think the insurance and hospital industry do everything in their power to discourage competition?

Because it benefits them financially, but the important question is how they discourage competition, and the answer is through government regulation, written by healthcare lobbyists and enforced by the state.

Why do you think the GOP hates Obamacare so much?

Because they hate Obama, as do I.

They don't hate the idea of it, Obamacare was modeled after Romneycare after all.
 
Government regulation can only restrict choices, it cannot expand or "promote" them, whatever that means.

Bull****... In Europe many of our regulations open up markets, and promotes competition.

Because it benefits them financially, but the important question is how they discourage competition, and the answer is through government regulation, written by healthcare lobbyists and enforced by the state.

No ****.. because your political system is so easily corrupted by money.

Because they hate Obama, as do I.

They don't hate the idea of it, Obamacare was modeled after Romneycare after all.

And you miss the point. Obamacare with all its flaws, forced open the markets and took power away from the healthcare industry and insurance companies and put it in the hands of the consumers.. Sure it was no where near enough, but it was better than it was before... THAT is why the GOP hates Obamacare, because their big money backers hate it.. oh and that he was black of course.
 
Bull****... In Europe many of our regulations open up markets, and promotes competition.

Then provide some examples.

And you miss the point. Obamacare with all its flaws, forced open the markets and took power away from the healthcare industry and insurance companies and put it in the hands of the consumers.

How, by forcing people to buy expensive health insurance policies they didn't want?

lol, that's real consumer empowerment alright.
 
You don't "protect" adults by restricting their choices.

This is absurd. Yeah, limiting your choice so you can't buy a health plan or a mortgage that's basically a con job definitely protects adults, and children.
 
Then provide some examples.



How, by forcing people to buy expensive health insurance policies they didn't want?

lol, that's real consumer empowerment alright.

They preferred worthless ones. They're cheaper. Smart.
 
Without a doubt, the conservative pursuit of capital is the most evil thing the political right has inflicted upon the American people.

It permits the wealthy to make profit by denying health care to the ill.
 
This is absurd. Yeah, limiting your choice so you can't buy a health plan or a mortgage that's basically a con job definitely protects adults, and children.

Well then if Trump declares himself President for life, then the American people would benefit since government limiting their choices is a good thing.
 
Without a doubt, the liberal regulatory state is the most evil thing the political left has imposed upon the American people. The regulatory state allows politically-connected capitalists to mercilessly price-gouge the American public, and nowhere is the gouging deeper than in what's left of the healthcare "market". The following short article written by an expat demonstrates the problem rather well:

Healthcare in the U.S. vs Healthcare Overseas




The reason he can't is entirely due to government regulation.



All due to government regulation. Here's another important part (which I bolded)



The regulations which drastically increase the price of healthcare in the US were not demanded by the public, nor were they written by ignorant politicians - they were written by lobbyists from the healthcare industry in order to ass-rape the American public.

There is a danger to lining our grocery store shelves with powerful medications. Some of them can be used to make illegal drugs like meth. Many can be used by teenagers. People taking strong medications improperly will cost our healthcare system with a lot of people overdosing and doing themselves a lot of harm.

And there is the problem of self-medicating. Lots of people will self-diagnose and as a result will diagnose themselves incorrectly, buy the wrong drug, or take the wrong dose. This will make a lot of desperate sick people even more sick. And if these drugs are overused, it might even create shortages for those who need the drugs the most. Antibioltics are being over-used and as a result bacteria are building resistance to them. Thowing antibiotics on the shelves can create a pandemic worse than this one.

If you need a strong medication, you really should see a doctor. He is trained to know what you should take and how much. If you are worred about money, you should have insurance, and hopefully we will have universal healthcare one day. Getting a perscription can be as easy as a phone call these days. Doctors visits aren't actually the biggest cost to our healthcare system. Its those expensive treatments, expensive drugs, long-term care for very sick people, and cancer treatments that is costing people.
 
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