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Thank Goodness For Health Insurance Companies

The Old Soul

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Lucky for America the Insurance providers are stepping up to the plate and working so closely with the government and its customers to stem the pandemic! After a comprehensive review of extended benefits and patient cost containment policies, we can all rest easy - but mostly only if COVID-19 testing is negative; sometimes.

The common thread (and relief) most every Insurance provider offers boils down to basically nothing:

"XYZCare will cover the cost of Coronavirus testing without any out-of-pocket costs for fully insured members. XYZ is working with federal officials to ensure coordination of benefits for Medicare members and those with health savings accounts (HSA). XYZ is also easing access through virtual/phone care, as well as access to regularly prescribed medications."

IN virtually every summary of extended COVID-19 benefits to the fully vested and fully paid patient by the Insurance industry, the second paragraph DOES NOT EXIST.
Th-th-th-th that's all folks!
 
Lucky for America the Insurance providers are stepping up to the plate and working so closely with the government and its customers to stem the pandemic! After a comprehensive review of extended benefits and patient cost containment policies, we can all rest easy - but mostly only if COVID-19 testing is negative; sometimes.

The common thread (and relief) most every Insurance provider offers boils down to basically nothing:

"XYZCare will cover the cost of Coronavirus testing without any out-of-pocket costs for fully insured members. XYZ is working with federal officials to ensure coordination of benefits for Medicare members and those with health savings accounts (HSA). XYZ is also easing access through virtual/phone care, as well as access to regularly prescribed medications."

IN virtually every summary of extended COVID-19 benefits to the fully vested and fully paid patient by the Insurance industry, the second paragraph DOES NOT EXIST.
Th-th-th-th that's all folks!

Wait till you receive your bill ................
 
oh i see so they dont care if you have any other illness? they only give you free treatment if its for whats going on right now. if
only they had free treatment years ago.
you should get free treatment no matter what for anything you need, all the sudden insurance companys have compassion and wanna help.
 
Lucky for America the Insurance providers are stepping up to the plate and working so closely with the government and its customers to stem the pandemic! After a comprehensive review of extended benefits and patient cost containment policies, we can all rest easy - but mostly only if COVID-19 testing is negative; sometimes.

The common thread (and relief) most every Insurance provider offers boils down to basically nothing:

"XYZCare will cover the cost of Coronavirus testing without any out-of-pocket costs for fully insured members. XYZ is working with federal officials to ensure coordination of benefits for Medicare members and those with health savings accounts (HSA). XYZ is also easing access through virtual/phone care, as well as access to regularly prescribed medications."

IN virtually every summary of extended COVID-19 benefits to the fully vested and fully paid patient by the Insurance industry, the second paragraph DOES NOT EXIST.
Th-th-th-th that's all folks!

 
Lucky for America the Insurance providers are stepping up to the plate and working so closely with the government and its customers to stem the pandemic! After a comprehensive review of extended benefits and patient cost containment policies, we can all rest easy - but mostly only if COVID-19 testing is negative; sometimes.
The common thread (and relief) most every Insurance provider offers boils down to basically nothing:
"XYZCare will cover the cost of Coronavirus testing without any out-of-pocket costs for fully insured members. XYZ is working with federal officials to ensure coordination of benefits for Medicare members and those with health savings accounts (HSA). XYZ is also easing access through virtual/phone care, as well as access to regularly prescribed medications."
IN virtually every summary of extended COVID-19 benefits to the fully vested and fully paid patient by the Insurance industry, the second paragraph DOES NOT EXIST.
Th-th-th-th that's all folks!


4/17 - email from BC/BS of TN:

No fees for COVID-19 tests or treatment

If you need a COVID-19 test, we'll pay for it and the visit for it at no cost to you. We’re also waiving all copays and deductibles for COVID-19 treatment from providers in your network through May 31, 2020, so you can focus on your health.
 
4/17 - email from BC/BS of TN:
No fees for COVID-19 tests or treatment
If you need a COVID-19 test, we'll pay for it and the visit for it at no cost to you. We’re also waiving all copays and deductibles for COVID-19 treatment from providers in your network through May 31, 2020, so you can focus on your health.

Thank you for the update - much obliged! A little more information would be helpful, but we'll never see the internal memos on how these waived funds will be accounted for, and just exactly who will not be paying or getting paid (providers, hospitals, equipment suppliers and patients). Financial disclosure will likely be well into the future, if at all; a guess will be that in the long run, post CV19, the lost revenue will be made up by consumers, and not absorbed by BCBS.

BTW, considering the stake the insurance industry has here, they are way late, and doing as little as possible to save face.
 
4/17 - email from BC/BS of TN:

No fees for COVID-19 tests or treatment

If you need a COVID-19 test, we'll pay for it and the visit for it at no cost to you. We’re also waiving all copays and deductibles for COVID-19 treatment from providers in your network through May 31, 2020, so you can focus on your health.

The new dodge: Being a BCBS paying customer, I have been receiving eMails from providers in our network soliciting the IgM and IgG Antibodies test....except, all tests administered are NOT covered by ANY insurance - the 3 notices received carried a price tag from $65 (only available with a Dr.'s order), to $150 for anyone with the money up front - no billing and no checks accepted. I sure am glad that there are No fees for COVID-19 tests or treatment.

This one just came in:
"The cost of this test is $95 and can be paid via the website when you schedule your test. We are not currently accepting insurance for these tests."
That makes 4.
 
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Lucky for America the Insurance providers are stepping up to the plate and working so closely with the government and its customers to stem the pandemic! After a comprehensive review of extended benefits and patient cost containment policies, we can all rest easy - but mostly only if COVID-19 testing is negative; sometimes.

The common thread (and relief) most every Insurance provider offers boils down to basically nothing:

"XYZCare will cover the cost of Coronavirus testing without any out-of-pocket costs for fully insured members. XYZ is working with federal officials to ensure coordination of benefits for Medicare members and those with health savings accounts (HSA). XYZ is also easing access through virtual/phone care, as well as access to regularly prescribed medications."

IN virtually every summary of extended COVID-19 benefits to the fully vested and fully paid patient by the Insurance industry, the second paragraph DOES NOT EXIST.
Th-th-th-th that's all folks!

What are you whining about? Do you even know what you're talking about?

oh i see so they dont care if you have any other illness? they only give you free treatment if its for whats going on right now. if
only they had free treatment years ago.
you should get free treatment no matter what for anything you need, all the sudden insurance companys have compassion and wanna help.

Is this actually true, that you actually do not comprehend the valid reasons for cost-sharing?

Thank you for the update - much obliged! A little more information would be helpful, but we'll never see the internal memos on how these waived funds will be accounted for, and just exactly who will not be paying or getting paid (providers, hospitals, equipment suppliers and patients). Financial disclosure will likely be well into the future, if at all; a guess will be that in the long run, post CV19, the lost revenue will be made up by consumers, and not absorbed by BCBS.

BTW, considering the stake the insurance industry has here, they are way late, and doing as little as possible to save face.

It looks like you 1) are using insurers as a scapegoat because 2) you don't understand how insurance operates. The main purpose copays and deductibles serve is to reduce the utilization of unnecessary care. They don't have to worry as much about meeting that objective during COVID because the virus itself is helping to reduce the utilization of unnecessary care.

The actual total amount of copays and deductibles customers pay is usually a small fraction of the total insurers have to pay out in a given year, which is gigantic mostly because of hospital stays and coverage of expensive drugs for people who meet their out-of-pocket max every year.
 
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Most insurance companies are fully covering all COVID diagnostic tests and treatment, and most fully-insured plans are fully covering other types of treatment not necessarily related to COVID, and waiving normal cost-sharing requirements. Insurers can't offer this to people on self-insured plans because the way those work is the employer sets the cost-sharing rules, not the insurer. The insurer is ASO.
 
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What are you whining about? Do you even know what you're talking about?



Is this actually true, that you actually do not comprehend the valid reasons for cost-sharing?



It looks like you 1) are using insurers as a scapegoat because 2) you don't understand how insurance operates. The main purpose copays and deductibles serve is to reduce the utilization of unnecessary care. They don't have to worry as much about meeting that objective during COVID because the virus itself is helping to reduce the utilization of unnecessary care.

The actual total amount of copays and deductibles customers pay is usually a small fraction of the total insurers have to pay out in a given year, which is gigantic mostly because of hospital stays and coverage of expensive drugs for people who meet their out-of-pocket max every year.

As a clinician from the late 1960's throughout the 1990's, I watched, and actively participated in the transition from provider-billed healthcare, to the complete takeover of the payment scheme by insurance companies. The same psysicians and institutions that pushed to hand off the financials of healthcare because "We're not accounting firms, and 3rd party insurance unloads this burden," are the same bunch that rail against healthcare being turned into a patient volume and profit directed patient processing structure.

Doing approvals, coding, and department billing changes over the years has been an eye opener. Watching old-school providers who went into medicine for the right reasons drop out (retire), to be replaced by providers who chose medicine for profit and prestige is a sad reality, and why the stranglehold for-profit insurance has been slowly and methodically destroying our system. Working closely with MD's and administrators, many would candidly voice their views, opinions, and expectations - over the years too many discussions went from helping and caring for the patient, to how to get things done in spite of insurance company rules and regulations.

Up until the early '80's while doing budgets and balance sheets, there was a section for 'other; write-offs; Dr.s, clinics, and hospitals could wave fees and credit bills for those uninsured, too poor, or incapable of generating income, but insurance companies did away with all that. The 'Emergency Room' dodge doesn't work either; Most medical issues people face, regardless of income or insurance, are NOT emergencies, and there is little or no positive outcome for most with chronic conditions. Only singe payer Universal Healthcare for everyone will fix this mess.

When I left the medical field, it was much for the same reasons; when I personally had to turn away patients needing the now extortionately expensive tests and procedures because of shoddy or no insurance, and sail other patients with excellent coverage through the same tests they didn't really need but were approved, it became personal. The department I worked in was one of the only departments that actually made hospitals and clinics money, and when insurance companies started making the rules, our levels of patient care decreased substantially while costs skyrocketed - all in the name of profit.

I've held the hand of dying indigents waiting on gurneys to be seen in the ER that never happened, and watched parents plead and cry arguing with billing departments trying to get basic care for their sick child or loved one.
Anecdotally, back in the 1950's, my 9 day old brother almost died of starvation from congenital esophageal stenosis. Money kept my parents (we were what would now be classified as the Working Poor) from going to our family doctor until he passed out and wouldn't wake up. My mom rushed him to our Dr. office, he diagnosed the problem on the spot, and drove my brother to the hospital where he performed the abdominal surgery himself that day. 'Kiddo' pulled trough, and I remember the belt tightening the family went through tying to pay off the bills. About 6 months in when paying the Dr. - dad went to the office, and paid in cash, in person - Dr. P. told him that since he was doing everything he could to get paid up, he was washing the rest of the bill, and also absolving the hospital bill. If that happened today, I would be an only child.
 
Most insurance companies are fully covering all COVID diagnostic tests and treatment, and most fully-insured plans are fully covering other types of treatment not necessarily related to COVID, and waiving normal cost-sharing requirements. Insurers can't offer this to people on self-insured plans because the way those work is the employer sets the cost-sharing rules, not the insurer. The insurer is ASO.

Wrong; this is not an employer sponsored self-insured 'plan.' No notice of patient payment or amount charged came from the insurance company. All these notices came from the clinics, specialists, hospitals and labs I am now or have in the past been a patient of. All of these basically solicitations do not specify any insurance or company; the common thread is the statement: "We are not currently accepting insurance for these tests." Any insurance.
 
4/17 - email from BC/BS of TN:

No fees for COVID-19 tests or treatment

If you need a COVID-19 test, we'll pay for it and the visit for it at no cost to you. We’re also waiving all copays and deductibles for COVID-19 treatment from providers in your network through May 31, 2020, so you can focus on your health.

Insurance rip offs are being paid with our tax dollars........

Bring on tax dollar supported single payer to contain the ruthless health insurance industry
 
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