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    Re: If Medicare for All is so bad, what should Americans have instead?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Old Soul View Post

    And given that the USA will be one of the last major countries to design and implement MFA (for lack of a better acronym), would it not enable us to build our system with safeguards and policies to eliminate or reduce the pitfalls naysayers use to argue against MFA? We could pay at the same Negotiated Rate(s) that Insurance now pays hospitals and physicians, and distribute preventative care (which the poor and un/under insured cannot access), to Nurse Practitioners, PA's, and screening clinics. This would free-up physician's time for MD-specific procedures and diagnostics, rather than the endless follow-up and 'routine' exams, complete with overbookings and rushed appointments dictated by Insurance Providers and 'head-count' style medicine.
    I don't think you understand your intellectual disconnect here. AS a result of the lowered reimbursement that insurances are paying.. (of which medicare is one of the lowest).. we have arrived at the
    the endless follow-up and 'routine' exams, complete with overbookings and rushed appointments dictated by Insurance Providers and 'head-count' style medicine.
    We have arrived at this system in large part because of declining reimbursement.

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    Re: If Medicare for All is so bad, what should Americans have instead?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luther View Post
    Why should people who are happy with their insurance be forced into such a folly?
    Because everyone can lose a job or business and end up without any insurance, and a pre-existing condition...

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    Re: If Medicare for All is so bad, what should Americans have instead?

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    Because everyone can lose a job or business and end up without any insurance, and a pre-existing condition...
    That's not a sufficient reason to subvert people's freedoms. Socialized medicine is on the down turn anyway.

    While Americans pine for 'Medicare for all,' Canadians look for US-style private insurance

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    Re: If Medicare for All is so bad, what should Americans have instead?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Donkey View Post
    That can be said about any health care plan. Why would you expect MFA to suck?
    The world wide examples tend to have draw backs from huge waits that are detrimental to your health and costs that cripple economic growth.
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    Re: If Medicare for All is so bad, what should Americans have instead?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Donkey View Post
    I am not sure what to think about Medicare for All - whether it specifically is the right idea or something else should be made up by the federal government. But this much is clear: private health insurance companies are to blame for millions of patients not getting what they need every day. Conservatives are constantly criticizing the MFA proposals without offering any alternative ideas that would take for-profit insurers out of the picture. What is wrong with MFA and what is a better single player plan for American health care? (Note: Universal health care coverage is an obligation the government has to serve the American people, so nothing involving private insurance companies will be accepted.)
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    Re: If Medicare for All is so bad, what should Americans have instead?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Donkey View Post
    I am not sure what to think about Medicare for All - whether it specifically is the right idea or something else should be made up by the federal government.
    Let me help you. What you should think about it is that it's the best choice. The Lancet just released a study showing Medicare for All would reduce US healthcare costs by $450 billion, and save 68,000 lives (more than all the US casualties in Vietnam) every year.

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    Re: If Medicare for All is so bad, what should Americans have instead?

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    Re: If Medicare for All is so bad, what should Americans have instead?

    Quote Originally Posted by Craig234 View Post
    Let me help you. What you should think about it is that it's the best choice. The Lancet just released a study showing Medicare for All would reduce US healthcare costs by $450 billion, and save 68,000 lives (more than all the US casualties in Vietnam) every year.
    That is exactly what I want - more lives saved, more people getting healthy, more people staying healthy. But how will an economic disaster be avoided? How will longer wait times be no worse than it already is now? I don't know how it will work logistically.
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    Re: If Medicare for All is so bad, what should Americans have instead?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Donkey View Post
    I am not sure what to think about Medicare for All - whether it specifically is the right idea or something else should be made up by the federal government. But this much is clear: private health insurance companies are to blame for millions of patients not getting what they need every day. Conservatives are constantly criticizing the MFA proposals without offering any alternative ideas that would take for-profit insurers out of the picture. What is wrong with MFA and what is a better single player plan for American health care? (Note: Universal health care coverage is an obligation the government has to serve the American people, so nothing involving private insurance companies will be accepted.)
    I m against Medicare for all.

    Why? It's too freakin good.

    I got it one year ago and it is the least expensive, by far, even with the supplement, that I have ever had.

    Not only that, I have seen the best doctors in the world, literally, this past year.

    (BTW, the Bush prescription plan, is a disaster. A complete rip off. A give away to the insurance companies and big pharma.

    I waited 65 years to get it, if they give it to all, it will not be the same. Can't be, it's too perfect now.
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    Re: If Medicare for All is so bad, what should Americans have instead?

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Donkey View Post
    I am not sure what to think about Medicare for All - whether it specifically is the right idea or something else should be made up by the federal government. But this much is clear: private health insurance companies are to blame for millions of patients not getting what they need every day. Conservatives are constantly criticizing the MFA proposals without offering any alternative ideas that would take for-profit insurers out of the picture. What is wrong with MFA and what is a better single player plan for American health care? (Note: Universal health care coverage is an obligation the government has to serve the American people, so nothing involving private insurance companies will be accepted.)
    If Medicare is so great why do so many seniors have to buy supplemental insurance out of pocket? Multiply that answer by "for all".

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