Page 1 of 19 12311 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 188

Thread: The right is telling you that your taxes will be doubled to pay for Medicare for all.

  1. #1
    Sage

    Join Date
    May 2013
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:09 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Liberal
    Posts
    7,926

    The right is telling you that your taxes will be doubled to pay for Medicare for all.

    As usual the right are being twisted into little knots by the people who control their party and them, Every company and person who makes massive fortunes keeping us healthy and I say that with a chuckle.It's more like keeping us as sick as possible but still alive to give them our money.
    So they are told that the middle class will have to dive into this to pay for it. Then they say it will cost 26 trillion over the next decade. This is the bull**** part, right now 3.5 trillion is already being paid for by the individual, the insurance company's or the government(that's the amount in the pot now without raising a dime in taxes).. So they don't need the money they claim, in fact in most studies it will cost less then that for 2020. It is expected to increase at a massive 5.5 % per year over the next decade. Many are suggesting that it will cost 7 trillion at the end of the decade.
    The business world will tell you always about the improved profitability through increased production. That is until it has a negative effect on their bottom line, as in medicare for all. Now its the whore of putting it all in a single basket but still something they strive for all the time in business.
    DRAIN THE PIG PEN

  2. #2
    Moral clarity is needed
    Felis Leo's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2018
    Location
    California
    Last Seen
    Today @ 08:35 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    4,241

    Re: The right is telling you that your taxes will be doubled to pay for Medicare for all.

    Quote Originally Posted by jbander View Post
    As usual the right are being twisted into little knots by the people who control their party and them, Every company and person who makes massive fortunes keeping us healthy and I say that with a chuckle.It's more like keeping us as sick as possible but still alive to give them our money.
    So they are told that the middle class will have to dive into this to pay for it. Then they say it will cost 26 trillion over the next decade. This is the bull**** part, right now 3.5 trillion is already being paid for by the individual, the insurance company's or the government(that's the amount in the pot now without raising a dime in taxes).. So they don't need the money they claim, in fact in most studies it will cost less then that for 2020. It is expected to increase at a massive 5.5 % per year over the next decade. Many are suggesting that it will cost 7 trillion at the end of the decade.
    The business world will tell you always about the improved profitability through increased production. That is until it has a negative effect on their bottom line, as in medicare for all. Now its the whore of putting it all in a single basket but still something they strive for all the time in business.
    Alright, jbander. How much will our taxes have to be raised, not merely to cover the current deficit spending caused by current mandatory entitlement programs and tax cuts, but in order to fully pay for Medicare for All? I would ask that you please cite your sources.
    Last edited by Felis Leo; 11-09-19 at 02:05 AM.
    Itís in the small things that the rot starts. Do the wrong thing once, itís easier to do it again. Do the individualistic thing once, it is easy to do it again.

    Fiat justitia, et pereat mundus

  3. #3
    Doctor D
    Oborosen's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2017
    Location
    Heflin, Alabama
    Last Seen
    Today @ 09:56 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    15,464

    Re: The right is telling you that your taxes will be doubled to pay for Medicare for all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Felis Leo View Post
    Alright, jbander. How much will our taxes have to be raised, not merely to cover the current deficit spending caused by current mandatory entitlement programs and tax cuts, but in order to fully pay for Medicare for All? I would ask that you please cite your sources.
    Wasn't it already stated, that even if we hit the top 10% of the country with about a 90% tax rate. We'd never actually make this medicare for all thing work?
    Why do they run?
    Because they have no choice son, such is the way of cowards.
    But even a cornered rat, with no choice, will fight.
    Yes my son, and that should tell you more than you need to know about the coward.

  4. #4
    Engineer
    RabidAlpaca's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    American Refugee in Europe
    Last Seen
    Today @ 11:29 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    18,783

    Re: The right is telling you that your taxes will be doubled to pay for Medicare for all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Felis Leo View Post
    Alright, jbander. How much will our taxes have to be raised, not merely to cover the current deficit spending caused by current mandatory entitlement programs and tax cuts, but in order to fully pay for Medicare for All? I would ask that you please cite your sources.
    Every single country in the world with UHC, without exception, pays dramatically less per capita than we do and dozens rank higher in quality of care, Healthcare outcomes, life expectancy and many other metrics.

    Not sure why you guys are always so keen on paying more to get less while pretending you're not. Your question should be how can we afford not doing it.

  5. #5
    Guru

    Join Date
    Jun 2014
    Location
    UP of Michigan
    Last Seen
    02-11-20 @ 09:14 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    3,307

    Re: The right is telling you that your taxes will be doubled to pay for Medicare for all.

    Quote Originally Posted by jbander View Post
    As usual the right are being twisted into little knots by the people who control their party and them, Every company and person who makes massive fortunes keeping us healthy and I say that with a chuckle.It's more like keeping us as sick as possible but still alive to give them our money.
    So they are told that the middle class will have to dive into this to pay for it. Then they say it will cost 26 trillion over the next decade. This is the bull**** part, right now 3.5 trillion is already being paid for by the individual, the insurance company's or the government(that's the amount in the pot now without raising a dime in taxes).. So they don't need the money they claim, in fact in most studies it will cost less then that for 2020. It is expected to increase at a massive 5.5 % per year over the next decade. Many are suggesting that it will cost 7 trillion at the end of the decade.
    The business world will tell you always about the improved profitability through increased production. That is until it has a negative effect on their bottom line, as in medicare for all. Now its the whore of putting it all in a single basket but still something they strive for all the time in business.
    Sorry I have to ask, but is Biden, medicare for all?
    Azapizzazz.com
    Exquisitor exquisitly exquisited an exquisit exquisitorial in the exquisitorium of exquisitation exquisitum exquisitilicious.

  6. #6
    Sage

    Join Date
    May 2013
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:09 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Liberal
    Posts
    7,926

    Re: The right is telling you that your taxes will be doubled to pay for Medicare for all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Felis Leo View Post
    Alright, jbander. How much will our taxes have to be raised, not merely to cover the current deficit spending caused by current mandatory entitlement programs and tax cuts, but in order to fully pay for Medicare for All? I would ask that you please cite your sources.
    Yup nothing to add I see. here's the problem dealing with people who can't think, you say it is health cost that causes the deficit , I say it's tax cuts for golden fat boys that is causing the deficit. So your question is how much will the taxes have to be raised., the lowest medicare cost figures you could put saving of $5000.00 in the pocket of every single man women and child in this country, Meaning a increase of about $15000.00 into every family in this country. Or we can go with the CBO saying 34 trillion over a decade. That Would mean a massive amount back into peoples pocket , how much-well most figures suggest that in ten years the price of health cost, as it is now, will be 7 trillion a year. So tell me. . So with medicare for all it looks like it will cost 34 trillion a decade and we are already taking in 3.5 trillion a year. So if the cost of healthcare didn't go up we would have a extra 1 trillion. If we stayed with the system we have now, we will have spent about 53 trillion on healthcare, that is if the Increase in 10 years is as they say up to 7 trillion. So with the 3.5 trillion we are paying now that is already in the bucket without a tax increase. The CBO estimate would put money back into everyone's pocket at the lowest estimate we would get back about $5000.00 per person annually. Or a tax decrease of $5000.00 dollars for every man women and child in this country. You can rattle this around anyway you want/ The money is easy.
    DRAIN THE PIG PEN

  7. #7
    Sage

    Join Date
    May 2013
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:09 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Liberal
    Posts
    7,926

    Re: The right is telling you that your taxes will be doubled to pay for Medicare for all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Oborosen View Post
    Wasn't it already stated, that even if we hit the top 10% of the country with about a 90% tax rate. We'd never actually make this medicare for all thing work?
    No what we are saying is that the minute simple minded group that is led around by the ring in their nose, can't think past what their Gods tell them what to think,
    DRAIN THE PIG PEN

  8. #8
    Sage

    Join Date
    May 2013
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:09 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Liberal
    Posts
    7,926

    Re: The right is telling you that your taxes will be doubled to pay for Medicare for all.

    The right hates this, they will never let the facts get in the way of their opinion/ They have no problem selling a lie and they have the weakest minds in this country to play with. The big thing is, My comment is like taking away their favorite toy, they just can't stand it. They need these type of lies and distortions because without them the right would have never been able to exist ever. Without lies and distortion the right would have or could have existed.
    DRAIN THE PIG PEN

  9. #9
    Sage

    Join Date
    May 2013
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:09 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Liberal
    Posts
    7,926

    Re: The right is telling you that your taxes will be doubled to pay for Medicare for all.

    Quote Originally Posted by Exquisitor View Post
    Sorry I have to ask, but is Biden, medicare for all?
    No He hasn't said that
    DRAIN THE PIG PEN

  10. #10
    Sage

    Join Date
    May 2013
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:09 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Liberal
    Posts
    7,926

    Re: The right is telling you that your taxes will be doubled to pay for Medicare for all.

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Every single country in the world with UHC, without exception, pays dramatically less per capita than we do and dozens rank higher in quality of care, Healthcare outcomes, life expectancy and many other metrics.

    Not sure why you guys are always so keen on paying more to get less while pretending you're not. Your question should be how can we afford not doing it.
    I mean for God sake even Cubans live longer then we do. We are dealing with idiots.
    DRAIN THE PIG PEN

Page 1 of 19 12311 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •