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    Re: Cataloging Trump's Sabotage

    Quote Originally Posted by Abbazorkzog View Post
    You mean like dropping BOMBS on foreign countries, much like his predecessors?

    You mean like using GOVERNMENT AGENTS to separate families?

    You mean like expanding Bush-era mass-SURVEILLANCE and detention without TRIAL?

    You mean like using GOVERNMENT to take away people's health insurance?

    You mean like using GOVERNMENT to eliminate choices for women what to do with their own INSIDES?

    You mean like using GOVERNMENT to fund ENDLESS REGIME-CHANGE WARS?

    You mean like using GOVERNMENT to gerrymander and rig ELECTIONS?

    You mean like using GOVERNMENT to widen the divide between the rich and poor, the privileged and underprivileged, the American and non-American, the Republican and Democrat?

    You mean like using GOVERNMENT to silence dissent, attack the freedom of the press, and stoke FEAR in exchange for more POWER?

    You mean like using GOVERNMENT to appoint Party insiders to the Supreme Court?

    You mean like using GOVERNMENT to appoint Party insiders to the Intelligence Community?

    You mean like using GOVERNMENT to disseminate false and baseless accusations along with what is essentially propaganda in the form of Fox News and Infowars?

    You mean like using GOVERNMENT to shelter our adversaries and prop up dictators while gaslighting the Western World into misguided, foolhardy and narcissistic neo-imperialist boondoggles?

    You mean like using GOVERNMENT to ROB the VERY PEOPLE DOING THE LEGWORK IN GOVERNMENT that require them to work for the sake of national security enabling him to essentially hold all non-Executive and middle-class personnel HOSTAGE for POLITICAL PURPOSES INVOLVING A MULTI-****-BILLION-DOLLAR WALL LIKE EAST GERMANY, AN AUTHORITARIAN SURVEILLANCE STATE...

    You mean like... I mean, I could go on but I'm sure you get the picture...
    Well, nothing in your post is based in fact except in some wild night mare fantasy of the propagandists that apparently control your thinking. Probably doesn't take up much of their time...

    Did you find it at all interesting that when Trump was running and Obama controlled the "intelligence" agencies, there was a Russian under every voting booth.

    In the election run AFTER Trump was elected, I didn't hear anything about Russian interference. Not even a whisper. What do you suppose caused the difference?

    Just getting Obama out of the mix seems to have solved the problem.

    Might be some connection there... Don't really know. Maybe you should turn on Don Lemon or "The View" and get more news that's tailored to your belief system..
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    Re: Cataloging Trump's Sabotage

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    Did you find it at all interesting that when Trump was running and Obama controlled the "intelligence" agencies, there was a Russian under every voting booth.

    In the election run AFTER Trump was elected, I didn't hear anything about Russian interference. Not even a whisper. What do you suppose caused the difference?
    That was primarily due to the Clintons. Obama was just a frontman. We all know Hillary was supposed to be the nominee in 2008. The Bushes wanted her to succeed him, not Obama.

    Well, nothing in your post is based in fact except in some wild night mare fantasy of the propagandists that apparently control your thinking.
    Go ahead, keep your head in the sand. "It can't happen here! It can't happen here!" They said. But, even before they said that, people were living in ACTUAL SLAVERY in this country and white supremacist death squads were patrolling the streets for decades after this looking for people to execute for their skin color. You had the Pentagon propose an Eisenhower plan to stage bombings in Florida to justify an invasion of Cuba. And you had the LBJ, Nixon and Reagan foreign and domestic policy that was incredibly violent and aggressive, based on McCarthyist radicalism and the perpetual War on Drugs, which is incredibly racist as well. This kind of behavior from our government has GOT to STOP.

    Just getting Obama out of the mix seems to have solved the problem.
    This isn't about one person, it isn't about Obama, it isn't about Hillary, it isn't even about Trump. This is a symptom of a broken system.

    Focusing on the individual boils does not remedy the infection causing them.
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    Re: Cataloging Trump's Sabotage

    Quote Originally Posted by Abbazorkzog View Post
    That was primarily due to the Clintons. Obama was just a frontman. We all know Hillary was supposed to be the nominee in 2008. The Bushes wanted her to succeed him, not Obama.



    Go ahead, keep your head in the sand. "It can't happen here! It can't happen here!" They said. But, even before they said that, people were living in ACTUAL SLAVERY in this country and white supremacist death squads were patrolling the streets for decades after this looking for people to execute for their skin color. You had the Pentagon propose an Eisenhower plan to stage bombings in Florida to justify an invasion of Cuba. And you had the LBJ, Nixon and Reagan foreign and domestic policy that was incredibly violent and aggressive, based on McCarthyist radicalism and the perpetual War on Drugs, which is incredibly racist as well. This kind of behavior from our government has GOT to STOP.



    This isn't about one person, it isn't about Obama, it isn't about Hillary, it isn't even about Trump. This is a symptom of a broken system.

    Focusing on the individual boils does not remedy the infection causing them.
    I posted that the Executive overreach by our government was severely constricted by trump and then you posted a laundry list of things true through past decades and now you reiterate that the overreach is a bad thing.

    Trump is reducing the overreach.

    Are you happy about the reduction of overreach under Trump or upset that he has not extended overreach as was done by his predecessors?
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    Re: Cataloging Trump's Sabotage

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    He didn't lie. He was sabotaged.
    Your response is a prime example of why the left dismisses trump supporters like you. You can watch and listen to our president telling anyone who cares to listen we'll all have health insurance, bigger, better, cheaper health insurance and in some cases the government is paying he said. Yet you can watch the same video and say it wasn't trump lying, he was sabotaged.
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    Re: Cataloging Trump's Sabotage

    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeard View Post
    A coalition of cities is currently suing the Trump administration over its deliberate actions to undermine and harm the ACA (not to mention those people who need it).

    Their complaint is fascinating for the extended cataloging it does of executive actions taken to depress marketplace enrollment, drive up premiums, and increase uninsurance. They spend ~150 pages describing in detail each of these actions and its impacts on their municipalities but the list they've put together is below.

    (Mind you, this is just executive actions taken in the past two years, it doesn't include any sabotage conducted by the GOP Congress since 2011.)

    • Eliminating Protections that the ACA Guarantees
      1. Permitting Exchanges to Strip Individuals of Eligibility for Tax Credits Without Providing Direct Notification
      2. Outsourcing to States the Compliance Review of Insurance Plans to be Offered on Federal Exchanges
      3. Reducing Oversight of Insurance Brokers Participating in Direct Enrollment
    • Deterring Americans from Enrolling in Quality Health Insurance Plans
      1. Making It Harder to Compare Insurance Plans
      2. Undermining the Navigator Program
      3. Making Small Business Exchanges Less User-Friendly
      4. Imposing Unnecessary Income Verification Requirements
    • Driving Up Costs
      1. Curtailing Review of Insurance Rate Increases
      2. Reducing Rebates for Poor Insurer Performance
    • Directing Agencies to Sabotage the Act
    • Attempting to Destabilize the Exchanges
      1. Promoting Bare-Bones Plans to Try to Weaken ACA Exchanges
      2. Undermining the Individual Mandate
      3. Refusing to Grant State Waiver Requests that Would Further the ACA’s Goals
      4. Enabling and Encouraging States to Seek Waivers that Would Undercut the ACA’s Goals .
      5. Attempting to Weaken Public Confidence in ACA Exchanges
    • Working to Decrease Enrollment
      1. Shortening Open Enrollment
      2. Cutting Funding for Advertising and Refusing to Publicize Open Enrollment
      3. Cutting Funding for Navigators and Encouraging Them to Undermine the Act
      4. Failing to Set Numeric Enrollment Targets for 2018 and 2019
      5. Refusing to Participate in Enrollment Events and Other Outreach
    • Arbitrarily Driving Up Premiums
    • Refusing to Defend the Act


    That's a strong list!
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    Re: Cataloging Trump's Sabotage

    Quote Originally Posted by marke View Post
    Socialist medicine is a leftist liberal commie idea that democrats will fight to their death to impose on the already overburdened American taxpayer. "Damn the costs, full New Commie Deal ahead!"
    You sound like MSNBC and CNN with their "everyone I don't like is a Russian Agent!1" hysteria.
    Like, literally this is the EXACT SAME magnanimous acerebral oversimplification ... if not WORSE.

    What is with this country and playing victim all the time?
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    Re: Cataloging Trump's Sabotage

    Quote Originally Posted by Abbazorkzog View Post
    You sound like MSNBC and CNN with their "everyone I don't like is a Russian Agent!1" hysteria.
    Like, literally this is the EXACT SAME magnanimous acerebral oversimplification ... if not WORSE.

    What is with this country and playing victim all the time?
    What is it with politicians and pundits who want to explode the federal budget and balloon the debt while claiming to be fiscally sound guardians of Fort Knox?

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    Re: Cataloging Trump's Sabotage

    Quote Originally Posted by marke View Post
    What is it with politicians and pundits who want to explode the federal budget and balloon the debt while claiming to be fiscally sound guardians of Fort Knox?
    And I rest my case.
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    Re: Cataloging Trump's Sabotage

    Quote Originally Posted by marke View Post
    Socialist medicine is a leftist liberal commie idea that democrats will fight to their death to impose on the already overburdened American taxpayer. "Damn the costs, full New Commie Deal ahead!"
    You seem confused as to which thread you're in.

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