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Individuals’ Catastrophic Medical costs.

itsforthekids said:
What about "every American will save on average $2400 a year."- barry...2009
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Pre-ACA health spending trends would've put national health expenditures at $4,353.2B this year.

The post-ACA cost savings have national health expenditures on track to instead be $3,675.3B this year.

Savings of $677.9B. Or a little over $2,100 per person. Or about $5,500 per average household.
 
itsforthekids said:
LOL...weird how most world leaders and others who can afford to come to America when they have serious health issues.
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Yeah, pity that you have to make a world leader's salary to be able to afford it.
Thanks for proving why single payer is the only realistic option for the rest of us "little people".

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Greenbeard said:
Pre-ACA health spending trends would've put national health expenditures at $4,353.2B this year.

The post-ACA cost savings have national health expenditures on track to instead be $3,675.3B this year.

Savings of $677.9B. Or a little over $2,100 per person. Or about $5,500 per average household.
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Lol...good god, the things you people come up with.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Yeah, pity that you have to make a world leader's salary to be able to afford it.
Thanks for proving why single payer is the only realistic option for the rest of us "little people".

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Yea, travel is expensive. But that doesn’t mean anything...rich people can go anywhere...they most often choose America.
 
Helix said:
A bit of a broad brush, but yes, a lot of the problems with our health care system can trace their roots to desire for ever increasing profits.
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American health insurance makes its profits by DENYING delivery of health care as much as possible.
That's direct from a former top level CIGNA director, Wendell Potter.

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In 2008, Potter said he went home to Tennessee and attended a free health care clinic where thousands of people showed up to get treated by dozens of volunteer doctors, nurses and dentists.

“I saw it and realized I was playing a role in preventing these people from getting health insurance,” he said. “I could be one of those people if my dad had not saved for my college education.”

Potter said two weeks later, he realized he needed a new job.

“That was my wake-up call.”

“Today, health insurance industry is dominated by very large for-profit companies. Their objective is to pay as little as they can for medical care because their goal is to make money and try never to disappoint Wall Street.”

“The increasing number of uninsured is directly related to policies catered to Wall Street.”
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And NO ONE to date has ever been able to explain to me how massive health insurance company PROFITS enhance the quality of actual health care delivered, which naturally leads me to wonder why profit is such an important central factor in a nation where more and more people simply cannot afford health coverage at all.

If we were talking about transportation, it would be like acknowledging that everyone needs to be able to drive or ride, but the only thing the marketplace sells are Lamborghinis. Sure, a Lambo is a damn fine car, but who the Hell in this country can really afford to purchase one or even drive one, or even ride in one?

Sure, we have a health care system capable of providing excellent quality care, if you can afford it.
Is that really how low we should set the bar in this country?
 
itsforthekids said:
Yea, travel is expensive. But that doesn’t mean anything...rich people can go anywhere...they most often choose America.
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It's amazing that you actually think you can get away with playing dumb in front of everyone here at DP.
 
itsforthekids said:
What about "every American will save on average $2400 a year."- barry...2009
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His idea was based on single payer or a public option....IN 2009.
By mid-year, both single payer and the public option were shot down by Congress, so you may want to ask Congress why they did that, considering if they hadn't, he might be lauded today for being able to keep that promise.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
It's amazing that you actually think you can get away with playing dumb in front of everyone here at DP.
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Your ilk have the opinion that everything about America sucks...I have the opposite view. I'm much closer to the truth than your ilk. Many, many more people think like me than you.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
His idea was based on single payer or a public option....IN 2009.
By mid-year, both single payer and the public option were shot down by Congress, so you may want to ask Congress why they did that, considering if they hadn't, he might be lauded today for being able to keep that promise.
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More bull****. The ONLY goal of barry and the socialists was to pass a law that was SO BAD, that it would crash the system, therefore opening the door to single payer...aka communist style medical.
 
ItsForTheKids, regarding pre-existing conditions:
If there cannot be denial of medical insurance due to pre-existing conditions, the greatest proportion of our population should be medically insured. Otherwise the healthy do not purchase insurance and the per/capita cost and all medical insurance prices are increased.
To the extent that Republicans succeed reducing our population’s proportion of USA's medically insured, they increase the costs and prices of medical insurance or the concept of no price consideration for pre-existing conditions cannot be sustained.

Regardless of your acceptance or opposition to socialized medical insurance, the concept of federal catastrophic medical insurance, similar to the concept of Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, (quasi-government insurance for bank depositors), makes sense. It would reduce the medical costs for any or all (government or non-government) insurance plans, or for all uninsured persons. Its cost would be to our federal budget, and not reflected within the costs charged to any medical insurance plans. Thus, catastrophic not being reflected in costs, would not financially price penalize all those who purchase medical insurance and reduce all prices.
Respectfully, Supposn
 
itsforthekids said:
More bull****. The ONLY goal of barry and the socialists was to pass a law that was SO BAD, that it would crash the system, therefore opening the door to single payer...aka communist style medical.
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Trump is going to cover everyone.....remember. lol
 
itsforthekids said:
He's far too pragmatic to say something like that...most people WANT great healthcare for all...it's an impossible dream for ignorant dreamers.

So back to barrycare...what happened?
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Actually Trump did say that.

Before he was sworn in, President Trump made a bold promise: The as-yet-unreleased Obamacare repeal and replacement plan would have “insurance for everybody.”

“We’re going to have insurance for everybody,” Trump said in an interview with The Washington Post. “There was a philosophy in some circles that if you can’t pay for it, you don’t get it. That’s not going to happen with us.”
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