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Vaccines may cause autism

You're forgetting (or not aware of) one important thing. We absorb less than 1% of the aluminum we consume orally. This is because there is no biological reason for the body to absorb it, unless there is a leaky gut problem (something that autistic children tend to suffer from). If you inject 5mg of aluminum into the body, that is a huge burden to a baby whose detoxing pathways (like SOD and glutathione) are still unformed, whose body would not otherwise absorb aluminum. When the infant body cannot excrete the contents, they become stored in body fat and neural tissue. It's the same with any medication. Taking it by injection will be far stronger than taking it orally, which is why injectables have much smaller doses.

Aluminum is just one issue. There are other ingredients that are relatively harmless to adults but could cause developmental problems in susceptible children. I have read testimony from parents of children as old as 14 who suddenly had permanent cognitive changes following vaccinations. If your body can't excrete the harmful ingredients or at least store them in a contained way as is what happens in healthy people, an ADR will be experienced. And the kinds of neurological ADRs I'm talking about aren't even listed in the official ADRs by the drug companies. These ADRs are being completely ignored as unrelated to vaccines because a) it's convenient b) it preserves public safety c) it preserves market shares. There are a lot of people who go to the hospital every year with vaccine related ADRs who are not taken seriously by doctors.

My own best friend, just last year, got a yellow fever vaccine before going to South America. Within two days her tongue swelled up, the left side of her face went numb, and she had a fever. The doctors told her she had an infection, even though they had no evidence for this. She asserted that it was vaccine related and they just said it was unlikely. These are ER doctors, the ones most likely to witness ADRs. They gave her prednisone and sent her home without any real diagnosis. She now has trigeminal neuralgia and has been on disability for 3 months because of intense pain. She was otherwise healthy beforehand.

How many anecdotes is it going to take before somebody listens???

I thought the problem chemical was thiomersal, derived from the heavy metal Mercury, not so much the Aluminum.

No matter, a perfect example of the social pressures and effective conspiracy of silence on this matter was the case with Robert Deniro, if I'm spelling that right. They criticized his efforts even at the Oscars as I recall.
 
We've been through this before here. Deja vu.
 
Then you would have organic formaldehyde.

Trace amounts naturally occur in even organically grown pears, apples, carrots and tomatoes.

All living matter is organic.
 
Not to change the subject, but that's why I refuse the flu shot, too...not to mention there's formaldehyde in them...

There is some reason we're having so many children with autism, which wasn't present so many years ago, before vaccines...

I agree with you. Something is causing the spike in autism and nothing should be ruled out until we know exactly what it is.

There's a lot of societal (and governmental) pressure to squelch any sort of talk that immunizations might be detrimental -- because -- we could be in a world of hurt (on a national basis) if a lot of people decided not to immunize their kids.

Aluminum has been known to affect brains detrimentally for decades. Studies have been done on aluminum deposits in the brain that are associated with dementia as well.
 
Guess Andrew Wakefield's revocation of his medical license, removal from the UK medical board and abject humiliation by the entire medical community has been lost on some.

The story isn't about Wakefield -- it's about Chris Exley and his research. Exley is, by the way, a respected medical researcher whose previous studies about metal's influence on the brain are peer-reviewed and published.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed...and+the+Alzheimer's+disease+peptide+β-amyloid.
 
And stupid morons will lead to the end of civilization as we know it. A person with a double digit IQ questioning science....what could go wrong. Home schooling "morons teaching future morons"
 
My son developed autism immediately after a series of vaccinations at age 5. Before that time he was on a developmentally normal track. We have spent his entire life fighting with the medical system to have this heard, but most MDs are trained to not listen because vaccines are the sacred cow of modern medicine. At the time that he originally became acutely ill with fever and brain swelling, the doctors refused to consider that it was a vaccine ADR. They instead called it idiopathic meningitis, as though there could be no possible explanation. The sad thing is that there are thousands of parents out there who have had similar experiences. We are becoming a movement to be reckoned with. People call us 'anti-vax' but we're not. We're actually pro-research.

After the UK study on autism, it's now incredibly taboo in the medical community to even research potential ADRs from vaccines. As a result there are no longer longitudinal studies done on new vaccines. That in of itself should raise an eyebrow. Researchers are afraid to lose their credentials and credibility for even bringing up the subject. Because of this lack of opposition, newer vaccination formulations are deemed safe and pushed to market faster, where they cause more ADRs. The tragedies caused by the HPV vaccine are a perfect example of that.

We shouldn't undervalue vaccines, they have real-world potential. My problem with the topic is that we can't have a real discussion about it without people mouth foaming or calling each other pro/anti-vax. The tribal politics have to stop and the real science has to recommence. There are so many other medical topics where people show restraint and objectivity, but when it comes to vaccines there is a thick veneer of brainwashing. It's the #1 reason why parents like me can't get our stories out. The level of public denial is too strong. People would rather call me anti-vax than listen.

All we are asking for is a real, honest public debate with all sides represented. I am tired of being treated like I'm a fringe idiot because I have a story that contradicts the brainwashed narrative on how great vaccines are for everybody. Vaccines are pharmaceuticals with real risks. Each vaccine is its own medicine, and each one has its own unique evaluations. Some are safer than others. When people say "vaccines are good" or "vaccines are bad" without any distinction, you know you're dealing with an ignorant person.

People should be free to give their child autism or give their child measles.
 
Aluminium in vaccines may cause autism | Daily Mail Online

'Perhaps we now have the link between vaccination and autism': Professor reveals aluminium in jabs may cause sufferers to have up 10 times more of the metal in their brains than is safe.

1. This guy has been writing about this supposed link for quite a while. The article in the journal that is mentioned appears to be written back in 2013 and he just keeps rehashing it.

2. This is an actual headline from the "study, and an actual diagram in the study. These are real, I didn't make them up. It makes me very leary to say the least. Smells like bull****.

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I agree with you. Something is causing the spike in autism and nothing should be ruled out until we know exactly what it is.

There's a lot of societal (and governmental) pressure to squelch any sort of talk that immunizations might be detrimental -- because -- we could be in a world of hurt (on a national basis) if a lot of people decided not to immunize their kids.

Aluminum has been known to affect brains detrimentally for decades. Studies have been done on aluminum deposits in the brain that are associated with dementia as well.

I'd argue that the changing in definitions is mostly to cause. I can't say this for a fact, but many kids that would have never been diagnosed decades ago fall now in to the autism spectrum. When my son was 2 he was behind on talking and feeding himself, though he could walk fine and play with toys fine and everything else. When we signed him up for speech therapy the lady told us they offer a free autism screen but don't do it cause he will be labeled as autistic just cause he wasn't speaking enough words and eating enough different foods at his age. Was amazing to me that someone thinks that's a legitimate way to diagnose, but that's apparently the guidelines. A couple months later with speech therapy and he was talking non stop like the other kids and eating new foods just like the other kids.
 
I agree with you. Something is causing the spike in autism and nothing should be ruled out until we know exactly what it is.

There's a lot of societal (and governmental) pressure to squelch any sort of talk that immunizations might be detrimental -- because -- we could be in a world of hurt (on a national basis) if a lot of people decided not to immunize their kids.

Aluminum has been known to affect brains detrimentally for decades. Studies have been done on aluminum deposits in the brain that are associated with dementia as well.

Autism is being diagnosed more often, that doesn't mean it's spiking.
 
I thought the problem chemical was thiomersal, derived from the heavy metal Mercury, not so much the Aluminum.

No matter, a perfect example of the social pressures and effective conspiracy of silence on this matter was the case with Robert Deniro, if I'm spelling that right. They criticized his efforts even at the Oscars as I recall.

Because he was peddling horse****.

Did you know you eat two chemicals every day, one is an explosive and the other is used to sterilize swimming pools. And you just put it on your French fries.
 
Which most take as yelling :roll:

With me if you see caps it is nothing but complete bullplop unless it is followed by !!!!! or !!!!111 or !!!!!1111one. Most of the time I accidentally bump caps between sentences.
 
I'd argue that the changing in definitions is mostly to cause. I can't say this for a fact, but many kids that would have never been diagnosed decades ago fall now in to the autism spectrum. When my son was 2 he was behind on talking and feeding himself, though he could walk fine and play with toys fine and everything else. When we signed him up for speech therapy the lady told us they offer a free autism screen but don't do it cause he will be labeled as autistic just cause he wasn't speaking enough words and eating enough different foods at his age. Was amazing to me that someone thinks that's a legitimate way to diagnose, but that's apparently the guidelines. A couple months later with speech therapy and he was talking non stop like the other kids and eating new foods just like the other kids.




Not only a change in definition, but a zeal to diagnose. activist doctors are quick to diagnose Autism spectrum because of the funding the state gets. I know of two kids who recieved the diagnosis which automatically gets reported to the state. The diagnosis in both cases under a separate and far more thorough examination dismissed the diagnosis as bunk. guess what the statistic remains.
 
Not to change the subject, but that's why I refuse the flu shot, too...not to mention there's formaldehyde in them...

There is some reason we're having so many children with autism, which wasn't present so many years ago, before vaccines...

How do you know it wasn't present so many years ago? In years past, there were kids that seemed 'weird' or 'slow,' that weren't diagnosed as anything.
 
Not only a change in definition, but a zeal to diagnose. activist doctors are quick to diagnose Autism spectrum because of the funding the state gets. I know of two kids who recieved the diagnosis which automatically gets reported to the state. The diagnosis in both cases under a separate and far more thorough examination dismissed the diagnosis as bunk. guess what the statistic remains.

Probably very true. My son was never officially diagnosed (and now that he's 4 any;one that meets him would laugh that at one point he qualified as being on the spectrum).
 
Was your son's diagnosis criteria for ASD behavioural, or did they look for neurological/genetic signs as well? Research has shown people with ASD usually have differences in neurological structure from birth, and there are often signs of a genetic basis as well (siblings/family with ASD or other developmental disorders (the father having a low IQ is also another commonality between many people with ASD, which I find interesting, and in my line of work have definitely seen a correlation)). While people with ASD often have brain inflammation, it's thought to be correlative, not causative. Do you think there could be a possible of your son having an aquired brain injury which causes ASD-like symptoms, rather than classic ASD, that seems to have a basis from genetics/birth?

Thank you for asking such an intelligent and pointed question.

My son does not have the genetic markers for ASD, though this research is still unfolding so maybe there's some other genetic factor that we haven't discovered yet. Nobody in my partner's or my extended family is on the spectrum. My son has extensive MTHR gene mutations though, coming from my partner's side, so this may be a contributing factor. My partner did not have vaccines at all growing up so we can't draw comparisons. My son's onset was obvious. There were no new factors in life, not even changes in diet, no falls or head injuries. Just the vaccine series. We strongly suspect that it was the MMR but he received 6 different vaccines on that day, including a flu shot.

I've spoken to many parents over the years who experienced similar events. Some already had the genetic potential and they believe that the vaccines triggered it. For others, there is no clear physiological explanation, but the vaccine event was the obvious starting point. There is just not enough evidence to blame one thing or the other. We have ideas but without openness to research we will never know for sure. It may not even be a genetic thing. It may just be the way some immune systems spontaneously react and there will always be some degree of randomness in who gets injured by vaccination.

What troubles me intensely is that in the community of parents who are strongly suspicious of vaccine injury and autism, we are not really calling for an end of vaccines. Yet we are treated like we are enemies of the state. We are asking for a more accountable ADR system that can point to research questions. We are also asking for more consideration into the sensitivities of some children who may be at higher risk of ADRs than the standard at-risk percentage of standard vaccine protocols. It may be necessary for these children to avoid vaccines until a certain age of brain development, or never have them, just like their auto-immune counterparts. The number of vaccines that children under 5 receive is much larger now than ever before.

Drug intolerances used to be called "allergies" across the board. Now we know that the CYP450 group of enzymes has many polymorphisms. Some people can't metabolize certain drugs at all and should never take them on this genetic basis. Before this genetic knowledge showed up, doctors would tell patients that it's all in their heads, or that they are having an allergic reaction. But neither is true. Their bodies just don't process the drugs due to lack of adequate enzyme. I feel that some children on the spectrum are this way with the vaccines, through an as of yet unstudied phenomenon. I believe the MTHR series of genes are a worthy starting point.

But like I said, we can't really have this discussion in the mainstream because people attack us. The brainwashing runs very deep. Ironically we can talk about this everywhere in the world except North America and Western Europe where vaccine therapy is so firmly entrenched. There are countries not adhering to the UN standards, which are really the western standards. They believe 3 years old is too young to receive 10+ vaccines.

The problem isn't that we are wrong or not observing properly, it's that modern medicine won't hear anecdotal anything until some expert discovers something, gets accredited, gets more funding to replicate the study, and then gets approval from the profession's leading experts. It doesn't matter that thousands of parents are shouting this in their faces. They won't listen. Their school of rationality is their greatest strength and their greatest weakness. They are deaf to us, and because the pharmaceutical industry has made sure nobody will stick their neck out to really look at it, we are caught in a horrible catch-22. We need research evidence to make our case, but nobody is willing to do it anymore. Not after the autism papers in the UK. That doctor got crucified.
 
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Not to change the subject, but that's why I refuse the flu shot, too...not to mention there's formaldehyde in them...

There is some reason we're having so many children with autism, which wasn't present so many years ago, before vaccines...

I dont get the flu shot because the two times i did i ended up throwing up and aching for a week...
 
My son is autistic. He has shown obvious signs since he was under 2 years old. He did not get his vaccines on time, not until he was 3. I have a hard time believing the "vaccines cause autism" crowd.

Additionally, doctors can, if taught how, identify autistic babies between about 3 and 9 months old by observing whether they watch people or would rather stare at objects or around in general. There is an identifiable trait showing autistic babies deviate from the normal when it comes to what they look at, observe, in one of the most developmentally important times of their lives, right around when they first start learning from their caregivers, learning how to talk by observation, learning imitation, learning to identify various emotions/emotional states, and so much more from nonverbal cues, and observing those nonverbal cues. Instead of watching those other people in their lives though, those babies tend to do the opposite, which would easily explain one of the most prevalent issues those on the autism spectrum exhibit, communication problems.

Researchers Find First Signs of Autism Even in Infancy - TIME

https://www.mendability.com/autism-therapy/fine-motor/4-simple-tests-to-check-1-autism-warning-sign-eye-tracking/

These include signs identifiable in infants, before most vaccines are given to children.

I am all about bodily autonomy and have no issue with someone refusing vaccines for whatever reason. I simply do not agree that there is any sort of evidence to reliably link vaccines to autism. Many people are being diagnosed later in life, as adults. They were overlooked.
 
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