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Graham-Cassidy healthcare bill fails the 'Kimmel test'

apdst said:
Kimmel will never stand in line for government health insurance.

The fact that he is a millionaire is exactly why his opinion is absolute ****.
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Well, Trump is billionaire....and most in people congress are millionaires. Do you think any of them would stand in line to get government insurance?
 
Rogue Valley said:
Lol. You'll need to raise an additional $4 billion just to just to tread water. Good luck with that.
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Damn typo. That will be an additional $14 billion just to tread water 2020-2017 :shock:
 
Moot said:
Well, Trump is billionaire....and most in people congress are millionaires. Do you think any of them would stand in line to get government insurance?
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Sure don't. Obama sure as hell isn't subject to his signature legislatiion. Is he?
 
Rogue Valley said:
Lol. You'll need to raise an additional $4 billion just to just to tread water. Good luck with that.
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What kind of charity hospital system does your state have?
 
apdst said:
Sure don't. Obama sure as hell isn't subject to his signature legislatiion. Is he?
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Obama represented the people that voted him to office and it is they that wanted health care legislation...and he delivered. And the people cheered and stood in line to get their Obamacare. It's not about how wealthy a government representative is....it's about what they promise they can do for the American people.
 
Moot said:
Obama represented the people that voted him to office and it is they that wanted health care legislation...and he delivered. And the people cheered and stood in line to get their Obamacare. It's not about how wealthy a government representative is....it's about what they promise they can do for the American people.
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Right! That's why the Democrats were all voted out after Obamacare became law. :lamo

They were so confident in the bill that they made sure it wasn't fully implemented until after the 2012 presidential election. :lamo

Obama promised that if you like your plan, you could keep your pla. How did that work out??

People stood in line to get their Obamacare???...LMAO!!! What planet was that on? It sure as wasn't on Planet Earth.
 
apdst said:
Right! That's why the Democrats were all voted out after Obamacare became law. :lamo
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Gerrymandering, right wing shout downs, paid protestors and dog whistle propaganda probably had a lot to do with it. Now the GOP are stuck trying to fulfill their dog whistle propaganda. Hows that working out for them?



They were so confident in the bill that they made sure it wasn't fully implemented until after the 2012 presidential election. :lamo
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The ACA was lot more complicated to implement than just passing a bill on the pledge of allegiance or any of the other nonsense bills passed by the GOP congress. :roll:


Obama promised that if you like your plan, you could keep your pla. How did that work out??
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For most people they could keep their plan because they were getting it through their employer. It's working fine...but I think access to health insurance and health care shouldn't require being employed or depend on where you live or how much money you make.

People stood in line to get their Obamacare???...LMAO!!! What planet was that on? It sure as wasn't on Planet Earth.
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You're the one that implied that people who weren't millionaires stood in line to get government insurance, not me. I thought you just meant it as a metaphor ....but now I'm not so sure...

apdst said:
Kimmel will never stand in line for government health insurance.

The fact that he is a millionaire is exactly why his opinion is absolute ****.
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Jimmy Kimmel Has No Clue What He's Talking About
Ben Domenech, The Federalist

In 1850, Frederic Bastiat wrote in The Law that “Socialism, like the ancient ideas from which it springs, confuses the distinction between government and society. As a result of this, every time we object to a thing being done by government, the socialists conclude that we object to its being done at all. We disapprove of state education. Then the socialists say that we are opposed to any education. We object to a state religion. Then the socialists say that we want no religion at all. We object to a state-enforced equality. Then they say that we are against equality. And so on, and so on. It is as if the socialists were to accuse us of not wanting persons to eat because we do not want the state to raise grain.”
This is the classic mistake ABC late night host Jimmy Kimmel, an example of an average human white male comedian who did his best work over a decade ago on The Man Show and who has consistently failed upward, is making in his analysis of the Republican effort to shift Obamacare funding back to the states via Graham-Cassidy. It reveals the inability to have any kind of debate across partisan lines regarding health care spending at the federal level: Kimmel is so convinced of the rightness of his cause and the truth of his baseless and incorrect analysis of a piece of legislation that he will continue on this jaunt without any amount of self-reflection or consideration that maybe, just maybe, he might be wrong. . . .
 
Jack Hays said:
Jimmy Kimmel Has No Clue What He's Talking About
Ben Domenech, The Federalist

In 1850, Frederic Bastiat wrote in The Law that “Socialism, like the ancient ideas from which it springs, confuses the distinction between government and society. As a result of this, every time we object to a thing being done by government, the socialists conclude that we object to its being done at all. We disapprove of state education. Then the socialists say that we are opposed to any education. We object to a state religion. Then the socialists say that we want no religion at all. We object to a state-enforced equality. Then they say that we are against equality. And so on, and so on. It is as if the socialists were to accuse us of not wanting persons to eat because we do not want the state to raise grain.”
This is the classic mistake ABC late night host Jimmy Kimmel, an example of an average human white male comedian who did his best work over a decade ago on The Man Show and who has consistently failed upward, is making in his analysis of the Republican effort to shift Obamacare funding back to the states via Graham-Cassidy. It reveals the inability to have any kind of debate across partisan lines regarding health care spending at the federal level: Kimmel is so convinced of the rightness of his cause and the truth of his baseless and incorrect analysis of a piece of legislation that he will continue on this jaunt without any amount of self-reflection or consideration that maybe, just maybe, he might be wrong. . . .
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Another regular cut & paste jobbie from Hays, and a damn stupid one at that.

Let Kimmel toss your Federalist crapola into the round bin headed for the trash heap:

"Oh, I get it, I don’t understand because I’m a talk-show host, right?

Well, then help me out! Which part don’t I understand?

Is it the part where … the American Medical Association, the American College of Physicians, the American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Hospital Association, the American Cancer Society, the American Diabetes Association, the American Heart Association, Lung Association, Arthritis Foundation, Cystic Fibrosis Foundation, ALS, the Multiple Sclerosis Society and the March of Dimes, among many others, all vehemently oppose your bill? Which part of that am I not understanding?"
 
Paperview said:
Another regular cut & paste jobbie from Hays, and a damn stupid one at that.

Let Kimmel toss your Federalist crapola into the round bin headed for the trash heap:

"Oh, I get it, I don’t understand because I’m a talk-show host, right?

Well, then help me out! Which part don’t I understand?

Is it the part where … the American Medical Association, the American College of Physicians, the American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Hospital Association, the American Cancer Society, the American Diabetes Association, the American Heart Association, Lung Association, Arthritis Foundation, Cystic Fibrosis Foundation, ALS, the Multiple Sclerosis Society and the March of Dimes, among many others, all vehemently oppose your bill? Which part of that am I not understanding?"
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Not my bill. I could not care less. That doesn't mean Kimmel's not silly.

And since the primary structural problem in American health care is that we pay the providers too much, I'm not at all surprised the providers oppose change.
 
Jack Hays said:
Not my bill. I could not care less. That doesn't mean Kimmel's not silly.
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Well, you sure showed you do care by carting that pile of garbage here to criticize the bill and Kimmel.

And maybe if the author of that POS bill had not supplied the name of passing "The Jimmy Kimmel Test" to health care bills, it wouldn't be so astoundingly embarrassing for Cassidy or those licking his shoes right now.

Kimmel doesn't need to remain silent and he sure as hell is not silly by making his voice be heard on this most important topic.
 
Paperview said:
Well, you sure showed you do care by carting that pile of garbage here to criticize the bill and Kimmel.

And maybe if the author of that POS bill had not supplied the name of passing "The Jimmy Kimmel Test" to health care bills, it wouldn't be so astoundingly embarrassing for Cassidy or those licking his shoes right now.

Kimmel doesn't need to remain silent and he sure as hell is not silly by making his voice be heard on this most important topic.
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I'm indifferent to the health care debate. I'd prefer single payer to the present mishmash, and I'd prefer the status quo ante 2009 to anything, so I really have no dog in the fight. Still doesn't keep Kimmel (or you) from being silly.
 
Jack Hays said:
I'm indifferent to the health care debate. I'd prefer single payer to the present mishmash, and I'd prefer the status quo ante 2009 to anything, so I really have no dog in the fight. Still doesn't keep Kimmel (or you) from being silly.
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If you were "indifferent," you wouldn't be pushing that insane garbage from the Federalist, nor calling Kimmel "silly."

You're not indifferent at all. If you were, you'd walk out of this thread and show what actual indifference looks like.
 
Paperview said:
If you were "indifferent," you wouldn't be pushing that insane garbage from the Federalist, nor calling Kimmel "silly."

You're not indifferent at all. If you were, you'd walk out of this thread and show what actual indifference looks like.
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I enjoy it as a political contest (like a baseball game only less intellectual) and I'm amused by the silliness.
 
apdst said:
What kind of charity hospital system does your state have?
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You actually think charity is going to make up for your $14 billion healthcare funding shortfall in Louisiana? :lamo

Your state's entire GDP (2016) is less than $240 million.
 
Rogue Valley said:
You actually think charity is going to make up for your $14 billion healthcare funding shortfall in Louisiana? :lamo

Your state's entire GDP (2016) is less than $240 million.
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Tell us about the charity hospital system in your state? How does it stack up against the one in Louisiana?

Wait! Does your state even have one?
 
Jack Hays said:
Jimmy Kimmel Has No Clue What He's Talking About
Ben Domenech, The Federalist

In 1850, Frederic Bastiat wrote in The Law that “Socialism, like the ancient ideas from which it springs, confuses the distinction between government and society. As a result of this, every time we object to a thing being done by government, the socialists conclude that we object to its being done at all. We disapprove of state education. Then the socialists say that we are opposed to any education. We object to a state religion. Then the socialists say that we want no religion at all. We object to a state-enforced equality. Then they say that we are against equality. And so on, and so on. It is as if the socialists were to accuse us of not wanting persons to eat because we do not want the state to raise grain.”
This is the classic mistake ABC late night host Jimmy Kimmel, an example of an average human white male comedian who did his best work over a decade ago on The Man Show and who has consistently failed upward, is making in his analysis of the Republican effort to shift Obamacare funding back to the states via Graham-Cassidy. It reveals the inability to have any kind of debate across partisan lines regarding health care spending at the federal level: Kimmel is so convinced of the rightness of his cause and the truth of his baseless and incorrect analysis of a piece of legislation that he will continue on this jaunt without any amount of self-reflection or consideration that maybe, just maybe, he might be wrong. . . .
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It would permit the states to seek waivers from the federal preexisting-conditions regulation and experiment with different approaches of their own.
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Yeah that's what Kimmel said.
 
apdst said:
Sure don't. Obama sure as hell isn't subject to his signature legislatiion. Is he?
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Former presidents can buy health insurance under the same benefits plan as any federal employee, which is subject to applicable sections of the ACA.

Former presidents also have access to military hospitals and will pay the interagency rates set by the OMB.
 
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