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Doctors Fed up with Insurance Companies - Ready for Single Payer

jaeger19 said:
Well except for the fact that that comorbidities such as obesity explain variations in costs and healthcare outcomes between regions and countries far more than the type of healthcare system...

In fact..Greenbeard even presented some good research on the variation among different regions in the country that have basically the same healthcare insurance system. Yet they have widely varying costs and outcomes.
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Oh this is priceless.
 
vegas giants said:
Oh this is priceless.
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Hmmm.. I suppose yes.. getting educated about this topic is priceless to you.

Lets review shall we:

You state.. "single payer would be better"

Greenbeard presents data that shows that there is huge variation among states regarding health that are not due to single payer vs multipayer.
He accurately points out that outcomes in some of our states are as good as other countries or better.. and these states do it with multipayer systems
Greenbeard provides data that the US infant mortality rate has to do with the amount of preterm births we have compared to other countries.. NOT whether there is single payer or not..

He points out there is no data to support that the health outcome would be different simply by changing to single payer.

You claim that if you have cancer you are better off in another country that has single payer.

Jaeger provides the data that survival rates for breast cancer are significantly better in the US than the UK despite the fact that you are more likely to get breast cancer in the US.

Another poster provides the fact that the US has a high rate of obesity and that this accounts for a portion of our health outcomes.

Jaeger ties this in with data that shows that obesity is potentially more deadly than smoking cigarettes.

Which explains more of the variability in health outcomes than single payer vs multipayer.

You are getting a very good education here Vegas.. so I hope you see it as priceless.
 
jaeger19 said:
Hmmm.. I suppose yes.. getting educated about this topic is priceless to you.

Lets review shall we:

You state.. "single payer would be better"

Greenbeard presents data that shows that there is huge variation among states regarding health that are not due to single payer vs multipayer.
He accurately points out that outcomes in some of our states are as good as other countries or better.. and these states do it with multipayer systems
Greenbeard provides data that the US infant mortality rate has to do with the amount of preterm births we have compared to other countries.. NOT whether there is single payer or not..

He points out there is no data to support that the health outcome would be different simply by changing to single payer.

You claim that if you have cancer you are better off in another country that has single payer.

Jaeger provides the data that survival rates for breast cancer are significantly better in the US than the UK despite the fact that you are more likely to get breast cancer in the US.

Another poster provides the fact that the US has a high rate of obesity and that this accounts for a portion of our health outcomes.

Jaeger ties this in with data that shows that obesity is potentially more deadly than smoking cigarettes.

Which explains more of the variability in health outcomes than single payer vs multipayer.

You are getting a very good education here Vegas.. so I hope you see it as priceless.
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I can't stop laughing.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
You brought up affirmative action in a discussion about healthcare costs. You're not to be taken seriously.
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Misinterpreting what I post, stating it in terms that make it completely different and then dismissing it.

Interesting approach.
 
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