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U.S. Voters Oppose GOP Health Plan 3-1

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[FONT=&quot]American voters disapprove 56 - 17 percent, with 26 percent undecided, of the Republican health care plan to replace Obamacare, the Affordable Care Act, according to a Quinnipiac University national poll released today. Support among Republicans is a lackluster 41 - 24 percent. [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]If their U.S. Senator or member of Congress votes to replace Obamacare with the Republican health care plan, 46 percent of voters say they will be less likely to vote for that person, while 19 percent say they will be more likely and 29 percent say this vote won't matter, the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe-ack) University Poll finds. [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Disapproval of the Republican plan is 56 - 22 percent among men, 56 - 13 percent among women, 54 - 20 percent among white voters, 64 - 10 percent among non-white voters, 80 - 3 percent among Democrats, 58 - 14 percent among independent voters and by margins of 2-1 or more in every age group.

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[FONT=&quot]Voters also oppose 74 - 22 percent, including 54 - 39 percent among Republicans, cutting federal funding for Medicaid. [/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]Only 12 percent of American voters say the Republican health care plan would have a positive impact on their health care, as 30 percent say it will have a negative impact and 50 percent say it will have no impact.

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[FONT=&quot]Voters disapprove 61 - 29 percent of the way President Trump is handling health care. [/FONT]

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Ouchy.... If the Republicans pass this bill it might be the Democrats tool to kick out a lot of Republicans in 2018...
 
More polls! Did you speak with anyone? I didn't get a call. No one I know ever gets asked their opinion for a poll.

:doh "I didnt get a call therefore the poll is bunk"
 
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Ouchy.... If the Republicans pass this bill it might be the Democrats tool to kick out a lot of Republicans in 2018...

What percent of the people have a decent working knowledge of what is in either ACA or this new plan? For that matter how many people on THIS site have a decent working knowledge of either plan.
 
More polls! Did you speak with anyone? I didn't get a call. No one I know ever gets asked their opinion for a poll.

Well not everyone gets the call, but others do. That's how they collect the data for these polls.
 
For those keeping score: The ACA has never been even close to being as unpopular as the GOP replacement is.
 
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Ouchy.... If the Republicans pass this bill it might be the Democrats tool to kick out a lot of Republicans in 2018...

Eh. I think everyone is quick to rush to that judgment prematurely.

I notice, for example, that this poll did not ask "do you disapprove of this bill because you think it is still too liberal/Obamacare lite"? Look, for example, at the numbers of white men - who voted heavily for Trump - who disapprove. If someone is upset with the AHCA because it is too left-leaning, they aren't likely to be very amenable to Democrat calls of Medicaid For All.
 
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Ouchy.... If the Republicans pass this bill it might be the Democrats tool to kick out a lot of Republicans in 2018...

Gee, if Americans oppose a proposed health bill, I'd think Democrats would be lining up to vote for it - after all, that's about the same scenario that brought America Obamacare.
 
For those keeping score: The ACA has never been even close to being as unpopular as the GOP replacement is.

OTOH, we finally have unity on healthcare: Everyone, left and right, agrees this bill is not a good one.
 
More polls! Did you speak with anyone? I didn't get a call. No one I know ever gets asked their opinion for a poll.

I've been called. Pollster had a hard time because he was trying to shoehorn me into Trump-or-Hillary and I kept insisting I choose SMOD.
 
37. As president, do you think Donald Trump should - support efforts to repeal the Affordable Care Act, also known as Obamacare, or not?
WHITE......
COLLEGE DEG
Tot Rep Dem Ind Men Wom Yes No

Yes/Should 45% 82% 16% 42% 49% 41% 43% 54%
No 51 15 80 53 46 54 54 41
DK/NA 5 2 4 5 5 5 3 5

AGE IN YRS.............. WHITE.....
18-34 35-49 50-64 65+ Men Wom Wht NonWht

Yes/Should 36% 47% 46% 47% 53% 45% 49% 32%
No 63 48 49 46 43 51 47 61
DK/NA 1 5 5 6 3 4 4 7




Well, if we are looking at polls then, it's interesting how they got the numbers. 16% of Dems agree with the repeal/replace of Obamacare. 45% total say yes and 51% total say no. That's a pretty close margin, considering the way the headlines read how Americans do not want to change it. So a little less than half of Americans want to get rid of Obamacare. Why isn't that a headline?
 
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Well, if we are looking at polls then, it's interesting how they got the numbers. 16% of Dems agree with the repeal/replace of Obamacare. 45% total say yes and 51% total say no. That's a pretty close margin, considering the way the headlines read how Americans do not want to change it. So a little less than half of Americans want to get rid of Obamacare. Why isn't that a headline?

The very next question makes clear that most people do not want to "get rid" of the ACA; only 20% support full repeal. Lots of people just want to change various things.

What they absolutely don't want, however, is what the GOP is voting on today.
 
Oh really?

"Nearly half of Americans give a thumbs-up to Congress' passage of a healthcare reform bill last weekend, with 49% calling it "a good thing." By Slim Margin, Americans Support Healthcare Bill's Passage | Gallup

Compared to 17% support the AHCA :lamo

Maybe 6 years from now Americans will likewise have a more favourable view of this new legislation. However, that's not the comparison - the comparison is to the level of non-support for the ACA when the Democrats pushed it through Congress 7/8 years ago. In case you forget, the Democrats lost the House with a massive repudiation of their vote on the ACA in the next subsequent election.
 
Maybe 6 years from now Americans will likewise have a more favourable view of this new legislation. However, that's not the comparison - the comparison is to the level of non-support for the ACA when the Democrats pushed it through Congress 7/8 years ago. In case you forget, the Democrats lost the House with a massive repudiation of their vote on the ACA in the next subsequent election.

That poll is from March 22, 2010, the day before the ACA was signed.

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That poll is from March 22, 2010, the day before the ACA was signed.

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Doesn't disprove my point - polls can be skewed many ways - what were the percentages of Democrats polled, as opposed to Republicans and Independents, as an example.

That said, I guess you're arguing that the Democrats weren't drummed out of the House in the next election because they pushed through an unpopular ACA against the wishes of the majority of Americans. Good luck with that.
 
Doesn't disprove my point

It does, actually.

The ACA wasn't sitting at 17% approval when it passed (or ever, for that matter). The GOP's replacement bill is a joke. And rightfully universally reviled.
 
It does, actually.

The ACA wasn't sitting at 17% approval when it passed (or ever, for that matter). The GOP's replacement bill is a joke. And rightfully universally reviled.

Perhaps you're arguing with someone else, maybe yourself. Please post where I said that the ACA was sitting at 17% approval when it passed. I won't hold my breath. But good try.
 
Perhaps you're arguing with someone else, maybe yourself. Please post where I said that the ACA was sitting at 17% approval when it passed. I won't hold my breath. But good try.

If your point in comparing the relative popularity of these laws at the time they went up for a vote was that there's no comparison (which is correct!), that wasn't particularly clear.

However, that's not the comparison - the comparison is to the level of non-support for the ACA when the Democrats pushed it through Congress 7/8 years ago.
 
Maybe 6 years from now Americans will likewise have a more favourable view of this new legislation. However, that's not the comparison - the comparison is to the level of non-support for the ACA when the Democrats pushed it through Congress 7/8 years ago. In case you forget, the Democrats lost the House with a massive repudiation of their vote on the ACA in the next subsequent election.

That poll I posted is from March 23, 2010....
 
If your point in comparing the relative popularity of these laws at the time they went up for a vote was that there's no comparison (which is correct!), that wasn't particularly clear.

My point was, seemed clear to me but perhaps not to others, was that the Democrats voted for an unpopular healthcare law back in 2010 and so they should have no problem voting for another unpopular one, since voting against their constituents wants and positions is what they do best.
 
My point was, seemed clear to me but perhaps not to others, was that the Democrats voted for an unpopular healthcare law back in 2010

You said that in response to a poll from that time showing public opinion 49-40 in favor of the ACA? Can't imagine what would be unclear about that.
 
You said that in response to a poll from that time showing public opinion 49-40 in favor of the ACA? Can't imagine what would be unclear about that.

I see - so since you believe the ACA was so popular, what, in your view, caused the Democrats to lose about 63 seats in the House and 6 seats in the Senate in the subsequent midterm elections?
 
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