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So two guys go down to see the BLM demonstration in Austin. In their car, they rush at the demonstrators, tires squealing. They miss everyone, but they hid a barrier which stopped them.

One of the demonstrators a man by the name of Foster, approaches the car. He's carrying an AR47. He has it aimed away from the car.

The two guys in the car open fire on Foster, killing him.

The two guys call 911. The cops let them go.

Really great write up here: What We Know About the Austin BLM Protest Shooting




I think the only thing that would've saved Foster that night is if he wasn't armed.
 
That is generally the case in most gun deaths, but usually it's the victim that pulls the trigger.
 
So two guys go down to see the BLM demonstration in Austin. In their car, they rush at the demonstrators, tires squealing. They miss everyone, but they hid a barrier which stopped them.

One of the demonstrators a man by the name of Foster, approaches the car. He's carrying an AR47. He has it aimed away from the car.

The two guys in the car open fire on Foster, killing him.

The two guys call 911. The cops let them go.

Really great write up here: What We Know About the Austin BLM Protest Shooting




I think the only thing that would've saved Foster that night is if he wasn't armed.

Swing, you can be armed and still not have any brains(LOL)
 
They didn't have no cause to shoot him, if he was aiming at them.

Just because an armed man approaches someone, and is shot dead, that's justifiable homicide?
 
So two guys go down to see the BLM demonstration in Austin. In their car, they rush at the demonstrators, tires squealing. They miss everyone, but they hid a barrier which stopped them.

One of the demonstrators a man by the name of Foster, approaches the car. He's carrying an AR47. He has it aimed away from the car.

The two guys in the car open fire on Foster, killing him.

The two guys call 911. The cops let them go.

Really great write up here: What We Know About the Austin BLM Protest Shooting




I think the only thing that would've saved Foster that night is if he wasn't armed.

He has it aimed away from the car.


Who says? Black lives matter protesters(with a agenda)?


while some witnesses have said Foster did not.
 
They didn't have no cause to shoot him, if he was aiming at them.

Just because an armed man approaches someone, and is shot dead, that's justifiable homicide?

The right-wing made this argument endlessly during the armed protests against stay at home directives in places like Michigan. Of couse, we have known all along that the right to be publicly armed depends on your political views.
 
So two guys go down to see the BLM demonstration in Austin. In their car, they rush at the demonstrators, tires squealing. They miss everyone, but they hid a barrier which stopped them.

One of the demonstrators a man by the name of Foster, approaches the car. He's carrying an AR47. He has it aimed away from the car.

The two guys in the car open fire on Foster, killing him.

The two guys call 911. The cops let them go.

Really great write up here: What We Know About the Austin BLM Protest Shooting




I think the only thing that would've saved Foster that night is if he wasn't armed.

Looks like a justified shooting from what they are reporting here in Texas. Sad and easily avoided, don't bring long guns to a peaceful protest and definitely don't point at anyone if you do, especially in a State where many of us have carry permits.
 
Looks like the police have enough for a murder charge to me.
 
Looks like a justified shooting from what they are reporting here in Texas. Sad and easily avoided, don't bring long guns to a peaceful protest and definitely don't point at anyone if you do, especially in a State where many of us have carry permits.



Witnesses say he wasn't pointing the gun at the shooters.

There's no video of it, I guess.
 
"DailyMail.com previously unearthed disturbing social media posts which paint a troubling picture of the 33-year-old career soldier.
The fervent Trump supporter wrote about 'deadly force' against 'the mobs' and posted online about how to kill someone with a firearm just last month.
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DailyMail.com visited Perry's rundown apartment in Killeen, Texas - a short distance from the massive Fort Hood Army post where he serves.
Neighbors said they hadn't seen Perry in a couple of days but a pair of muddy field boots were sat outside his door and a slip from his landlord notifying him his rent was due was posted outside.
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According to court records Perry was arrested and charged with 'assault causes actual bodily injury' on a family member in November, 2005.
Perry was slapped with 15 months community supervision over the misdemeanor offense, following which the charge was dismissed.
Also in a foreshadowing of the shooting last Saturday, the soldier's social media posts make for uncomfortable reading.
Perry tweeted about using 'deadly force' against 'the mobs' two years ago and was even posting online about how to kill someone with a firearm just last month.
Replying to a tweet by conservative talk show host Michael Savage in October 2018, the US Army officer wrote: 'My greatest fear is when the mobs attack an armed individual doesn't matter if the person is left or the person is right and that deadly force is used resulting in either extreme mass hysteria or the mobs stopping.'
Replying to a now-deleted tweet by user 'Breaking911' on June 3 this year, Perry wrote about killing someone with a firearm.
'F**k that s**t you shoot center of mass,' he wrote. '1 it is a bigger target. 2 it still drops them. 3 even if you shoot them in the leg there is a major artery that will cause the person to bleed out in just a few minutes.'
A month earlier he tweeted at the same user saying 'Now is the time to take up arms and protect yourselves against violence.'..."




A racist, RW psychopath. He absolutely needs to go to jail for the rest of his life.

Army sergeant who 'shot dead Garrett Foster' claims he was working for a ride share firm at the time | Daily Mail Online
 
So two guys go down to see the BLM demonstration in Austin. In their car, they rush at the demonstrators, tires squealing. They miss everyone, but they hid a barrier which stopped them.

One of the demonstrators a man by the name of Foster, approaches the car. He's carrying an AR47. He has it aimed away from the car.

The two guys in the car open fire on Foster, killing him.

The two guys call 911. The cops let them go.

Really great write up here: What We Know About the Austin BLM Protest Shooting




I think the only thing that would've saved Foster that night is if he wasn't armed.

Not brandishing the rifle toward the car, or heck, not marching down the middle of the street at all, might have all have saved him too. The driver was totally in the wrong, but that doesn't mean the victim wasn't an idiot.
 
"DailyMail.com previously unearthed disturbing social media posts which paint a troubling picture of the 33-year-old career soldier.
The fervent Trump supporter wrote about 'deadly force' against 'the mobs' and posted online about how to kill someone with a firearm just last month.
.
.
DailyMail.com visited Perry's rundown apartment in Killeen, Texas - a short distance from the massive Fort Hood Army post where he serves.
Neighbors said they hadn't seen Perry in a couple of days but a pair of muddy field boots were sat outside his door and a slip from his landlord notifying him his rent was due was posted outside.
.
According to court records Perry was arrested and charged with 'assault causes actual bodily injury' on a family member in November, 2005.
Perry was slapped with 15 months community supervision over the misdemeanor offense, following which the charge was dismissed.
Also in a foreshadowing of the shooting last Saturday, the soldier's social media posts make for uncomfortable reading.
Perry tweeted about using 'deadly force' against 'the mobs' two years ago and was even posting online about how to kill someone with a firearm just last month.
Replying to a tweet by conservative talk show host Michael Savage in October 2018, the US Army officer wrote: 'My greatest fear is when the mobs attack an armed individual doesn't matter if the person is left or the person is right and that deadly force is used resulting in either extreme mass hysteria or the mobs stopping.'
Replying to a now-deleted tweet by user 'Breaking911' on June 3 this year, Perry wrote about killing someone with a firearm.
'F**k that s**t you shoot center of mass,' he wrote. '1 it is a bigger target. 2 it still drops them. 3 even if you shoot them in the leg there is a major artery that will cause the person to bleed out in just a few minutes.'
A month earlier he tweeted at the same user saying 'Now is the time to take up arms and protect yourselves against violence.'..."




A racist, RW psychopath. He absolutely needs to go to jail for the rest of his life.

Army sergeant who 'shot dead Garrett Foster' claims he was working for a ride share firm at the time | Daily Mail Online



Makes you wonder if he drove down to the demonstration hoping for a chance to kill someone.
 
"DailyMail.com previously unearthed disturbing social media posts which paint a troubling picture of the 33-year-old career soldier.
The fervent Trump supporter wrote about 'deadly force' against 'the mobs' and posted online about how to kill someone with a firearm just last month.
.
.
DailyMail.com visited Perry's rundown apartment in Killeen, Texas - a short distance from the massive Fort Hood Army post where he serves.
Neighbors said they hadn't seen Perry in a couple of days but a pair of muddy field boots were sat outside his door and a slip from his landlord notifying him his rent was due was posted outside.
.
According to court records Perry was arrested and charged with 'assault causes actual bodily injury' on a family member in November, 2005.
Perry was slapped with 15 months community supervision over the misdemeanor offense, following which the charge was dismissed.
Also in a foreshadowing of the shooting last Saturday, the soldier's social media posts make for uncomfortable reading.
Perry tweeted about using 'deadly force' against 'the mobs' two years ago and was even posting online about how to kill someone with a firearm just last month.
Replying to a tweet by conservative talk show host Michael Savage in October 2018, the US Army officer wrote: 'My greatest fear is when the mobs attack an armed individual doesn't matter if the person is left or the person is right and that deadly force is used resulting in either extreme mass hysteria or the mobs stopping.'
Replying to a now-deleted tweet by user 'Breaking911' on June 3 this year, Perry wrote about killing someone with a firearm.
'F**k that s**t you shoot center of mass,' he wrote. '1 it is a bigger target. 2 it still drops them. 3 even if you shoot them in the leg there is a major artery that will cause the person to bleed out in just a few minutes.'
A month earlier he tweeted at the same user saying 'Now is the time to take up arms and protect yourselves against violence.'..."




A racist, RW psychopath. He absolutely needs to go to jail for the rest of his life.

Army sergeant who 'shot dead Garrett Foster' claims he was working for a ride share firm at the time | Daily Mail Online

Accompanying picture shows a Spc E4.
 
Not brandishing the rifle toward the car, or heck, not marching down the middle of the street at all, might have all have saved him too. The driver was totally in the wrong, but that doesn't mean the victim wasn't an idiot.

Yes, he was in the wrong and looking to shoot somebody

It is as clear a case of murder as you'll ever see.
 
Yes, he was in the wrong and looking to shoot somebody

It is as clear a case of murder as you'll ever see.

Not really. If you really think that, then you don't know anything about clear cases or the concept of murder.
 
Not really. If you really think that, then you don't know anything about clear cases or the concept of murder.

So we've got previously declared intent

Video shows his car was NOT surrounded

He had no reason to be there, ie: his presence was pre-meditated


That is enough for an arrest right there.
 
So we've got previously declared intent

Video shows his car was NOT surrounded

He had no reason to be there, ie: his presence was pre-meditated


That is enough for an arrest right there.

Third statement is ridiculous.
 
So we've got previously declared intent

No we don't.

Video shows his car was NOT surrounded

Yes they do.

He had no reason to be there, ie: his presence was pre-meditated

It's a public street. What more reason does he need? And he has already given a specific reason to be there.

That is enough for an arrest right there.

"Arrest" and "murder" are not the same thing. It's quite possible he could be charged for reckless driving and failing to yield to pedestrians, but for the shooting to be deemed justified by the fact that he was threatened by a man brandishing a rifle in the middle of an angry mob.
 
So two guys go down to see the BLM demonstration in Austin. In their car, they rush at the demonstrators, tires squealing. They miss everyone, but they hid a barrier which stopped them.

One of the demonstrators a man by the name of Foster, approaches the car. He's carrying an AR47. He has it aimed away from the car.

The two guys in the car open fire on Foster, killing him.

The two guys call 911. The cops let them go.

Really great write up here: What We Know About the Austin BLM Protest Shooting




I think the only thing that would've saved Foster that night is if he wasn't armed.
It is truly sad how BLM cultists can be so brainwashed they miss obvious realities. :roll:

First of all, there is no factual basis that the two in the car drove down "to see the BLM demonstration in Austin". That's pure fiction. What is likely true is that they simply had to get from one place to another and got caught in the midst of the rioters.

Again, no factual basis that the car "rushed at the demonstrators". What is apparent is that the rioters blocked the car, the car tried to go around, the driver was understandably likely quite scared, as BLM rioters have a two-month history of assault and murder that's been plastered all over TV.

Who put the barrier out? The rioters trying to block off a CHOC segment in Austin? Again, there should not have been a barrier there.

So now the people in the car must be understandably really scared.

So the car tried to get away from the scary mob of rioters, failed to easily do so, got temporarily stopped again .. and all of a sudden a man with an AK-47 not dressed in official U.S. military uniform is coming at them. After what they've likely seen on TV for two months, they have every reason to think their very lives are in danger, absolutely.

It doesn't matter if the AK-47 was pointed at the ground. What matters is that Foster's hands were holding the assault rifle and could bring it up to fire in a second!

So, understandably fearing for their lives, they fire at the rioter holding the assault rifle approaching them.

Then somehow they got past the BLM barrier and sped off .. while they were being fired at by a BLM rioter, which validates their concern about being shot by a BLM mob.

Yes, the two people in the car call the police right away and tell them what happened. Then the two guys are at the police station, likely tell their whole story, it's pretty much what I've written here, and understandably the police let them go: self-defense, most certainly.

The problem with BLM cultists is that they've essentially lost their mind. They are now prisoners of the BLM mindset. This prevents them from seeing events as they truly are, the way those of us not mesmerized by BLM's seduction see them: that BLM people in the streets of America the past two months have showcased on TV their bullying, rioting, looting, assault, and murder of innocent people.

Likely those two people in the car were like most cars on the street -- simiply trying to get from one place to another as they ordinarily would -- and they got stopped by a scary BLM mob.

But BLM cultists don't think that they're scary. They don't think that their bullying, rioting, looting, assault, and murder they've committed in our cities' streets the past couple months .. which has been seen over and over on TV and social media by nearly everyone .. is scary at all.

Thus BLM cultists can't consider even for a second that anything other than "two guys went to a BLM demonstration to get a look at it or to shoot someone" is what happened. :roll:

It may have once been socially chic to jump on the BLM bandwagon. But now people have seen the Marxist cult violent nature of BLM .. and the great majority of Americans have had it with BLM's mind control and the obvious race war they're attempting to create.
 
No we don't.

See post #13

"Replying to a now-deleted tweet by user 'Breaking911' on June 3 this year, Perry wrote about killing someone with a firearm.
'F**k that s**t you shoot center of mass,' he wrote. '1 it is a bigger target. 2 it still drops them. 3 even if you shoot them in the leg there is a major artery that will cause the person to bleed out in just a few minutes.'
A month earlier he tweeted at the same user saying 'Now is the time to take up arms and protect yourselves against violence.'..."



Where did you do you legal training


Yes they do.

After it sped into a crowd, not before. It wasn't trying to get away from a crowd surrounding it:

"Foster had been crossing 4th Street on Congress Avenue with his wheel-chair bound fiancee Whitney Mitchell, 28, and hundreds of other demonstrators when a motorist sped towards the crowd and began blaring its horn.
Protesters - who have been marching for 60 days - say the car swerved towards them and Foster has jumped in front of Mitchell, a quadruple amputee, fearing she was a target.
...witnesses (said) that the car sped through the protesters before it apparently hit an orange barrier and came to a stop...
"


Army sergeant shot dead Austin Black Lives Matter protester | Daily Mail Online


Clear, pre-meditated terrorism

It's a public street. What more reason does he need? And he has already given a specific reason to be there.

Yeah, his social media posts say what his intentions were


"Arrest" and "murder" are not the same thing. It's quite possible he could be charged for reckless driving and failing to yield to pedestrians, but for the shooting to be deemed justified by the fact that he was threatened by a man brandishing a rifle in the middle of an angry mob.

So carrying a rifle make you a legitimate target now ?

Foster's rifle was pointing down and I guess that St Louis lawyer was lucky to survive after he "brandished" a rifle.


Murder charges are totally justified in this case.
 
See post #13Where did you do you legal training

At a law school that taught me to understand that discussing the proper way to use a firearm for self defense is not evidence of premeditation of anything, other than understanding how to properly use a firearm for self defense.

After it sped into a crowd, not before. It wasn't trying to get away from a crowd surrounding it:

Yes, which is why I said he was at fault, and could be charge for reckless driving. Heck, I'll even give you vehicular assault if it makes your feel better.

That doesn't negate the fact that his car was then surrounded by a large crowd of people for no reason other than to return the intimidation. The weren't doing that in self defense. If they were really worried for their safety, they would have gone away from him, not toward him. What they did INCREASED the danger to them.

Yeah, his social media posts say what his intentions were

Really, which ones?

So carrying a rifle make you a legitimate target now ?

No, that's not what I said. Stop lying.


Murder charges are totally justified in this case.

That's a matter of opinion. We'll see.
 
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