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Sister pulls out gun and saves her brother from would-be robbers

danielpalos said:
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I don't know what your smoking, but can I have some?
 
Rich2018 said:
7/4/20

"Two people are dead after a shooting occurred Saturday afternoon in Newark, an Essex County Prosecutor’s Office spokeswoman confirmed.
The identities of the victims who were shot on the 100 block of Brookdale Avenue in the city’s Vailsburg section were not immediately released.
A resident who has been living on the block for about a year said he heard about four gunshots around 1:45 p.m. He also said he saw a woman walking away from the scene while crying..."



2 dead after daytime shooting in Newark - nj.com
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OK so would you care to fill us in on any particulars? Or is it a secret?
 
zsu2357 said:
OK so would you care to fill us in on any particulars? Or is it a secret?
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He’s just celebrating the deaths of innocent people because he believes it’s advantageous to his cause. It’s pretty ghoulish, it a necessary thing for gun banners.
 
zsu2357 said:
OK so would you care to fill us in on any particulars? Or is it a secret?
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Just supporting to OP, that the availability of guns in the USA leads to unnecessary bloodshed and carnage - no seen in any other civilized country.
 
Rich2018 said:
Notice my use of the word "civilized" above.
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Oh I definitely noticed. Is it your position that all of the 90+ countries with higher intentional homicide rates than the US are uncivilized? That's the only way for your claim to be true.

Since you are a progressive, let me remind you that a country doesn't have to be rich and predominately white in order to be civilized.
 
aociswundumho said:
Oh I definitely noticed. Is it your position that all of the 90+ countries with higher intentional homicide rates than the US are uncivilized? That's the only way for your claim to be true.
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Yes, at the very least we can't regard them as a developed, democratic country


Since you are a progressive, let me remind you that a country doesn't have to be rich and predominately white in order to be civilized.
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History would disagree with you.


*caveat: The term "civilization" is often applied to historical societies in the past, for example we might refer to the Aztec "civilization". That doesn't mean that today we regard a culture that engaged in human sacrifice, as "civilized".
 
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Rich2018 said:
Yes, at the very least we can't regard them as a developed, democratic country
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Argentina and Greenland both have a higher intentional homicide rate than the US. What makes them uncivilized?
 
aociswundumho said:
Argentina and Greenland both have a higher intentional homicide rate than the US. What makes them uncivilized?
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Greenland huh, Thule must resemble Mos Eisley as a rough port for casual visitors.


Neither it nor Argentina would be classed as developed countries.
 
Rich2018 said:
Greenland huh, Thule must resemble Mos Eisley as a rough port for casual visitors.

Neither it nor Argentina would be classed as developed countries.
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You didn't say developed, you said civilized.

I knew you would change the qualification in order to weed out every country that is predominately black or brown.
 
aociswundumho said:
You didn't say developed, you said civilized.

I knew you would change the qualification in order to weed out every country that is predominately black or brown.
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Then for "civilized" read "developed"
(and I think I've made it clear over the last couple of years that I don't excuse US levels of gun violence because its lower than that of Brazil or El Salvador etc)


There are plenty of countries in the world that are more violent and/or less safe than the USA, though why would you want your country to be compared with them ?
I wouldn't.
 
Rich2018 said:
Just supporting to OP, that the availability of guns in the USA leads to unnecessary bloodshed and carnage - no seen in any other civilized country.
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If you wish to support the OP as you put it, why not have a few facts too support things? I noticed the OP loaded with them.
 
=Rich2018;1072213250]Then for "civilized" read "developed"
(and I think I've made it clear over the last couple of years that I don't excuse US levels of gun violence because its lower than that of Brazil or El Salvador etc)
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Of course the US has more firearms but also less violent.
There are plenty of countries in the world that are more violent and/or less safe than the USA, though why would you want your country to be compared with them ?
I wouldn't.
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Well why not pick one of those countries and go live there for awhile. Then get back to us on the subject of guns.
 
Rich2018 said:
7/3/20


"BOSTON — Boston police said a 15-year-old was killed and two others suffered gunshot wounds Thursday night in a shooting on a residential street in Boston.
The shooting happened around 10 p.m. Thursday in the area of 39 Mount Pleasant Ave., off Dudley Street, near Boston's Nubian Square.
"It's been a busy and violent night," Boston Police Commissioner William Gross said.
Gross said when police arrived, they found the teenager suffering from a gunshot wound. He was rushed to an area hospital where he was pronounced dead.
The police commissioner said two additional victims who were believed to be at the scene drove themselves to area hospitals."


15-year-old dead, two others shot in Boston neighborhood
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Rich, what are your thoughts on the story posted by the OP? What do you think about the sister being able to save her brother and perhaps herself from maybe being executed by two gun-wielding home invaders? Do you think if she had just called 911 instead that the police could have arrived to save them??
 
zsu2357 said:
If you wish to support the OP as you put it, why not have a few facts too support things? I noticed the OP loaded with them.
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Sure


7/5/20

"Two people are dead and eight people have been injured after a shooting at a South Carolina nightclub early Sunday morning.
The incident took place at Lavish Lounge in Greenville, South Carolina, just before 2 a.m. on Sunday morning when Greenville County sheriff’s deputies saw a large commotion outside the establishment and called for backup due to “active gunfire from inside the building, according to Greenville County Sheriff’s spokesperson Lt. Jimmy Bolt..."


2 dead, 8 injured in nightclub shooting - ABC News


Enough facts in that news report ?
 
zsu2357 said:
Of course the US has more firearms but also less violent.
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Less violent than where ?

Brazil or El Salvador ?


Well why not pick one of those countries and go live there for awhile. Then get back to us on the subject of guns.
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Because I live in the U S of A !!!!


Why don't you live in one of the less violent countries in the USA where you would NT need a gun ?
 
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Maidenrules29 said:
Rich, what are your thoughts on the story posted by the OP? What do you think about the sister being able to save her brother and perhaps herself from maybe being executed by two gun-wielding home invaders? Do you think if she had just called 911 instead that the police could have arrived to save them??
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I think the two "gun wielding home invaders" would be a lot less dangerous without guns


(and they might not have invaded the home at all had they not been wielding guns)


(Like the fact that gun crime is such a rarity in the UK)
 
Maidenrules29 said:
Rich, what are your thoughts on the story posted by the OP? What do you think about the sister being able to save her brother and perhaps herself from maybe being executed by two gun-wielding home invaders? Do you think if she had just called 911 instead that the police could have arrived to save them??
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i think it is great that having so many guns around allow for such dramatic shootouts.

good stuff!

maybe next time they can use grenade launchers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Rich2018 said:
I think the two "gun wielding home invaders" would be a lot less dangerous without guns


(and they might not have invaded the home at all had they not been wielding guns)


(Like the fact that gun crime is such a rarity in the UK)
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You avoided a real answer to my question.
 
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